Originally Posted by Ladymom (Post 1624708)

I am so sorry to hear about your Mickey. I know firsthand how difficult and expensive it is to have a dog with chronic health problems.

What type of stones does he get? Calcium Oxalate or struvite stones? I know struvite stones can often be managed and/or dissolved with special diets.

I found this article interesting. It said males are 75% more likely to get calcium oxalte stones and Yorkies were one of the breeds they are common in.

http://www.2ndchance.info/calculi.htm

Originally Posted by YorkieShadow (Post 1624792)

The stones they removed last time was Calcium Oxalate.

Originally Posted by omega (Post 1624738)

How's Mickey doing now? It's so hard when they are sick and we can't afford the super expensive surgery. These vets just make me mad that they charge so much when they don't HAVE to.

I use organic unfiltered apple cider vinegar in the dogs water around here. I put two teaspoons in a large water bowl. I actually started using it for my Maltese and staining, but if it will benefit the other dogs, I'll keep it up.

Keep us updated, ok?

I, personally wouldn't go for the removal of the stones again cause it does sound like they will come back and you'll have to go through it all over again.

Originally Posted by Ladymom (Post 1624870)

Those are the ones that are hard to dissolve and usually have to removed surgically. :(

My Lady is a diabetic and prone to uti's (not stones, thank heavens ) so I know way more about urine than I'd like to. :D

The pH of urine should be neutral, 7.0. Stones are formed if it's too acidic or alkaline. You can buy urine pH strips and test it yourself. Calcium oxalate stones form when the urine is too acidic. You can add organic cider vinegar like Omega said (it must be from a health food store, not the grocery store) or baking soda to make the urine more alkaline. Mickey may need a prescription diet.

Changing the urine pH isn't going to help with the stones he has now, but hopefully you can stop him from producing more.

Originally Posted by YorkieShadow (Post 1624314)

Mickey's stones last time was calcium oxalateand Ive read and heard theat his UD food cant dissolve them. but his vet says they can, if so then why did he get the stones again? hes been eating the UD food for 6 months.The only way to get rid of the stones I heard is to have them surg removed.

Mickeys acting pretty normal, eating, drinking playing a little.
I had a rough night with Mickey, Makenzie , Minnie and my eye. ill tell you all about my eye in a minute.
I just talked to the vet he said its up to me on what to do next if he gets blocked again....We can do the cathider sp? again , we can do surgury to remove the stones again, or we can do the surgury to leaving the hole.
Theres another member a ady on YT that her dog had this done after having the stone surgury three times. I would really like to talk to her ASAP , But I cant remember her name.


What would you all do ? I need help on this decision.
The cathidar only gives him a instant relief, keeping his bladder from busting. He had this done three times last time. The surgury to remover the stones is so hard on them, and then theres a chance of them coming back again. The theres the surgury to make the hole. I really hate to do this to my baby boy, But I dont want to see him having to go through this surgury again and again.
and what im hoping for is a MIRACLE I believe in prayer and I have been praying, I know theres no way those stones can desolve on their own with just the UD food, if that was the case, He wouldnt even have them now because hes been on that food for 6 months. So if it happens its because God answered my our prayers and gave us a miracle.

Please God hear us pray, heal my little Mickey of these stones and keep him from having to have this surgury again, make him well. amen.

Originally Posted by YorkieShadow (Post 1624800)

Thanks for the prayers everyone.
Mickey is doing ok, acting him self, not in any pain as of yet.
eating and drinking good. We are still wishing and praying for a Christmas Miricle.so keep the prayers coming. Thank You all.


Trying to watch Mickey and Minnie and takes Care of my one year old Grandauter all night, Im wore out. and this is what happened .
Mickey and Minnie was sleeping and I was getting my Grandaughter ready for bed, we was playing and I had my face close to hers when she stuck her hand up and her finger went in my eye, not just in my eye but in and under the eyelid and over the top to the back of my eye. her nail scratched my eyeball and all of the inside top eyelid. Oh My Gosh I was in pain all night, It still sore and hurts today, But nothing like it did all night last night. Grandbabys home now and Mickey and Minnie are sleeping and Im resting.

Originally Posted by YorkieShadow (Post 1624800)

her finger went in my eye, not just in my eye but in and under the eyelid and over the top to the back of my eye. her nail scratched my eyeball and all of the inside top eyelid. Oh My Gosh I was in pain all night,

Originally Posted by Yorkieluv (Post 1627642)

YorkieShadow, I'm not sure if you're referring to me, but Miko is the one who has had this surgery several times, and he also had the surgery to make him pee out of a new hole. I will call you if you want. Send me your number in a pm. I'm praying for little Mickey...

Originally Posted by Monday (Post 1627722)

Oh my, that is awful about your eye. I hope it heals fine and that you do not have to endure any more pain.

Of course I am sending prayers for Mickey, but your eye has me very concerned.

Prayers going your way!

Originally Posted by YorkieShadow (Post 1628001)

Thanks guy's The vet called about 5:46 and said it went good, Mickeys awake and peed for them, Said They found 4-5 stones. not real big ones but big enough to block hime, said we could pick him up tomorrow after 1:00.

Originally Posted by YorkieShadow (Post 1628199)

Thanks everyone, My eye feels back to normal now, to tell the truth it hurt something awful, then with every thing else going on I kind of forgot about me worrying about Mickey and my mom. Moms losing her blood again and man 2007 has been hard on us, I hope and pray 2008 brings us all good health. But my eye it seems to be all healed now. Thanks for asking.
I cant wait to get little Mickey home, I keep thinking of him laying up there at the ER being so scared with out us. Poor little guy. I wonder what caused those darn stones to come back so soon, Hes been eating the Presription UD food so good and always has cold fresh water down. we will be changing his water to bottled water.

Originally Posted by wemple2 (Post 1628233)

I'm wondering about the nutritionist someone else mentioned. It would be fabulous if there was something simple and doable that could prevent them from returning. Try sending an email just to see what response you get...maybe it's the answer you are searching for. As a matter of fact I'm wondering if it would help with Winston's hypoglycemia/seizures...yes he's still having them...darn it. I think it's worth a shot, how about you?

Originally Posted by Wylie's Mom (Post 1627839)

I posted in your other thread too. But I wanted to mention - I would highly, highly recommend an animal nutritionist I used w/ Marcel. It was for other problems, but she is AMAZING and changed Marcel's health issues in no time. I spent hundreds at the vets - then I found Susan, paid for a telephone consult - and *voila* he was doing better 1.5 days later (after months of problems).

At the very least, you could drop her an email and ask of her experience in preventing reoccurring stones. Here is her website: http://www.askariel.com/pages.asp?pid=uti

Originally Posted by YorkieShadow (Post 1623065)

We're headed to the Emergence vet. Mickeys stones are back and hes in a lot of pain. They said to bring him in for emergence surgery. Please pray for him.

Originally Posted by YorkieShadow (Post 1628199)

Moms losing her blood again and man 2007 has been hard on us, I hope and pray 2008 brings us all good health.