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Too many accidents I vote yes. |
If all yorkies were show quality then more than half of us would not be able to afford a yorkie, so I voted no. Most of us only have pet quality yorkies, me included. |
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:yeahthat: well said. |
OK, so you sold a pup with a S/N contract.... You checked the box for limited registration.... You ask for a S?N cert from their vet.... How do you know its really done? Someone else asked this earlier... This is how my Grandmother did it so many years ago. You don't get your papers untill I get a visit from you with dog at your side and S/N cert from vet in hand. She would trade the Cert from the vet, which she would keep on file, for the registration papers. It was also in her contract that the owner had untill____ date to have the dog S/N, or the owner would forfit ownership of said dog, and the dog would be returned to the breeder. All funds exchanged would be forfited as well. When you left with one of her Poodles, you knew what was what! You had that dog fixed or else! She did sell unalterd dogs from time to time, but only to other show breeders. Her contract was very clearly worded and scared off alot of buyers, but she only had 2 or 3 litters a year and never had a problem placing her Poo babies. Yeah, she had all kinds of nicknames for them! |
I voted YES - but only if it is possible. I mean, dont' most dogs have to wait until like 5-6 months of age before being s/n? I would definitely not want to wait that long to get my puppy! Hmm....nice idea though. But really, is it OK to do that when they're really young? |
I voted "yes". If the pet quality pup is S/N by the breeder it is at least seen that time by a competitent vet! Our breeder includes S/N in her contract although she trusted us to have Toto's spay done since we use the same vet as she. She sold one several years ago and instead of bringing the pup back for her to have it spayed, they just took it to their regular vet who knew "squat" about small dogs. It never woke up!!! ... she still tears up when she thinks about her poor baby! That's why it's so very important to make sure you use a vet knowledgeable in small animals!! |
pups Unless I know the person well, I do not give any papers until the pup is spay/neutered. It does not stop them from breeding the Yorkie, but it will stop most..a letter from the vet is expected after the altering..but you would be surprised how many tell me not to bother sending the papers..why give AKC the money for a spay/neutered pet? One problem I find is getting breeders to agree on what is breed quality. Reading and comparing to the standard is not so black and white. Judges can not agree on color or texture half the time. If a Yorkie has a low tail set, does that make it not breed standard? How about too light, too dark, too laid back, on and on...I want to vote YES, to spay/neutering pet quality..I also want to be the one who gets to judge what is pet or what is not..JMO Some breeders do not feel a dog is breed quality unless it is show quality. Others give the standard a very wide range of what is acceptable. |
Ok, I really think that most of you guys are not thinking... How many of you out there have "show quality dogs" You know if they have big ears, an overbite or under bit,not a perfect square (9" highX 9" long) Perfect silky coats, correct ears, dark steel blue color, etc... They are not show quality! Did everyones dog come from show dogs, or show quality parents?? I would think not. SO, if all the pet quality dogs were S/N then you wouldn't have your perious furbabies.. Yes, I agree that these crappy puppy mills need to be stopped, but that doesn't mean that we should S/N all pet quality dogs.. My Bell is too tall,(to be show quality) but she has a decent coat, great face, nice ear set.. So should I have had her spayed rather than breed her.. I would guarantee you that the people who bought her babies are very happy with them. Gosh, look what you made me do. I was suppose to start be nice!! LOL :eek: |
Even the dogs in the show ring are not perfect. no such thing. they are the best examples of the breed standard. I think all breeders should only consider breeding dogs that are good examples of the breed. these dogs are getting more deluted by the minute b/c everyone is breeding anything with a tail and a couple ears. When someone says they are getting a Yorkie they should be able to believe it will LOOK like a Yorkie! I believe it limited registration for pet quality pups but do not believe in breeder doing it before delivery. Some of these dogs are too tiny at 12 or even 16 weeks for the spay surgery. |
Yes . All my puppies are spayed or neutered before leaving my home . There are too many peoples using pets for their breeding program because they are " cute ". Why do you think , there are several peoples asking if their little ones are " true Yorkies " or all other terms used ? With quality , a Yorkie can be recognize at first sight . |
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Karen, you just echoed my husband Quote:
We STILL think you are nice! :D |
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Who decides which pup is "show" quality and which is not? At what age? What does that person have to do to demonstrate their knowledge of the breed? Sounds a bit too Nazi-ish to me. |
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