Tiny Yorkies
 

Do you or have you ever bread tiny Yorkies, 4 to 5lbs.

I figured it out.This is anonymous.

In your poll, you stated either have a tiny or breed a tiny. It should have reflected if people out there breed their tinies and the ownership should have been left out. Lots of people here own tinies. There is nothing wrong with that. However, owning one and breeding one are two totally different things...JMHO

I would also like to state that out of my last litter, two got to 4 lbs and one is 3 1/2 lbs. This came from a standard bitch bred to a standard male.

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I ment to say have you ever bred or do you breed tinies.

In my opinion, the poll is not very clear.
Why don't you ask about breeding a real tiny female, like 3 pounds? I remember, you breed female who is 3+ lbs.
5 pounds is not 3 pounds to me. imxo. 5 pounds is not very tiny to me, 3 - IS.

I do not have any 3# Yorkies & would not breed 3# yorkies. My 3 plus are just under 4 with wide hips & bigger bones then some of the 4 pounds.

ok, sorry. But the question is still the same. Let's say, I am fine (almost)about breeding 5 pounds female and absolutely against breeding 2-3+and even 4 lbs females.

If I understand what you are asking,yes I will breed a real small male a tiny to a larger female as long as she is above 5 lbs..but not the other way around

Well said! :thumbup:

My female's are 4.5-5 lbs ..as long as my vet says there is no problems.. then yes I will breed them.
I know most people on this board has a problems with breeding under the 5lb mark.
I know of some that also breed tinies and the will not post because of being Bashed for it.

Goodness, how long are we going to go over this...It's is inhumane to breed a tiny girl, no matter what size the stud is...Goodness sake, why have this argument over and over. Is the reason we continue this argument is to have enough people say, "IT IS OK TO BRRED TINIES" so those who do, will have their contious cleared, and won't feel the GUILT! I don't know, please help me understand, because from what I have read here, and over the net, Bitch under 5lbs, Spay and don't breed!!!!

i think the poll as it exists right now can address several possibilities....

...breed tinies as in breed for tiny babies
...breed tinies as in having a tiny dam
...breed tinies as in having a tiny sire

i don't think many will find #1 and #3 objectionable, but #2, as many know, sparks heated discussions.

if the purpose of this poll is to lend a voice to the silent few who do breed their tiny females with success, but remain silent in fear of being flamed by the passionate members who frown upon this practice, then i think the poll should be changed to reflect that specific case to truly give those who choose to remain silent an anonymous voice without turning it into a heated debate.

That is what it was ment to be but you know what I am tired of this I have a life & intend to get on with it. Over & out.

Here is a thread that one of our members had the courage to share with us. It's painful to read and heartbreaking. Pages 1-3 has the best information and it went downhill fast starting on page 4.

http://www.yorkietalk.com/forums/sho...ght=breed+tiny

That WAS heartbreaking to read and anyone saying a C-section is "just routine" must think yorkies have a pain threshold of Superman - it HURTS like h*ll ...and I just can't imagine intentionally planning or routinely putting a tiny yorkie mom thru that over and over. :(

Anyone thinking of breeding tinies should read that thread.

I am sorry, but nothing can change my mind about this. I don't care how wide the tiny dog's hips are. To me breeding anything under 5 lbs is cruel. They still have to be able to support that extra weight and have room to grow. What if they end up having 5 pups as well. IF you love your dog, thier life is too much to risk. I'm sorry, but anyone who breeds them are selling their dog out and don't have it's best intrests in mind. I firmly believe in this. And I know that a person here on this thread was breeding a 3 1/4 lb female. I consider that close enough to 3 lbs. Unfortunately I'm afraid we'll still see more of this since people don't know to steer clear of these kinds of breeders and want a "guaranteed" tiny. Which doesn't exist I might add.
Happy holidays everyone.

I voted yes because Kricket at 2 yrs old was just a hair under 5 pounds. Now she's over. I don't consider her a tiny either. I think the range you put is not accurate cosidering you breed less than 4 pounds if I recall correctly. If not, I stand corrected.

I would NEVER breed something that's 4.5 pounds or less. If I did breed something 4.75 pounds again it would be at the discretion of my vet.

Mercy!!!

Irene

I agree! Why must we do this again,, YOU all know how this will end.. the big PADLOCK...

I agree. I have a tiny yorkie who is 4 lbs. The reason the breeder sold her was because she was too small to breed.

Where do chihuahuas come from? Think about it. :)

That's all I have to say.

I think you're comparing apples to oranges. The Chi is a very ancient breed that people don't know much about while the yorkie is more modern. Even the chihuahuas can have problems if the bitch is too small. And where will it end if we're breeding with only size in mind?
chi's
http://www.bigchihuahua.com/faq.htm#3
yorkies
http://www.barkbytes.com/HISTORY/yorkie.htm

Good point and one I have asked about.

THANK you Cheryl ..I agree with you :thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup:

if anyone is wondering about Chi's - search the net - lots of info there.

To me...Yorkies are just gorgeous AS THEY ARE...Why fool around with what is already a perfect sized little dog.

I love that the definition of tiny keeps getting bigger.

I thought we were worried about under 4lbs.?

There is another thread...somewhere...where a poll was done about what people considered a tiny...some said anything under 5 lbs. Some said anything under 4 lbs same as anything under 3 lbs.

We can't even agree on a definition! LOL!

It is all either our opinion or for some it has become an actual FACT, Small yorkies should not be bred. Even the almighty Joan B. Gordon has said "Don't breed tiny yorkies" Who really knows for sure if your tiny will be one of the many who will have a problem. So if you are willing to possibly lose your dog, go ahead breed that tiny!! You will only find out if it was a good choice when its time to give birth. :(

THIS is an excellent post.... :thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup:

Breeding tinies
 

Most of my breeding females are 5-7 lbs.. My Trianna is the exception to that, she weigh 4.6 lbs.. She will be two this coming March and I will breed her after that.. I always have complete examines done on all my yorkies.. Trianna might be on the smaller side, but she has a wider pelvic opening then two of my 6 1/2 lb. girls! Trianna comes from excellent free whelping lines and I do not believe there will be a problem, if I did I would NEVER breed her..

I personally do NOT believe a female under 4 lbs. should ever be bred for any reason! If a breeder does their homework and they know the lines they are breeding and they are NOT breeding for tinies, that is not what I refer to as someone being irresponsible with a dogs life.. It is the breeders that are breeding for tiny so called teacup, toys or minis that are being irresponsible! WHENEVER someone breeds a dog they are taking that dogs life into their own hands and I do NOT care what the size of the dog is! There have been many yorkie breeders with female over 5-6 lbs. and they also have been devasted by the end result!

I always tell everyone NEVER purchase a yorkie from someone that advertises or refers to their dogs/puppies as teacups, toys or minis!

It all goes back to being educated and making the proper choices for your dog and NOT your bank account!

Melanie