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Ladymom 11-11-2008 07:55 AM
Yes, I posted the direct link to the company in post #4. I recently switched to it because it was recommended by a member on another forum. It was recommended to her by her holistic vet. She did a lot of research about the company and their products, too.

Lady needs digestive enzymes also because she is diabetic and her pancreas doesn't work properly. Not only doesn't it make insulin, diabetics are prone to pancreatitis. The Animal Essentials product has both probiotics and plant enzymes.

I'd be interested to hear from anyone else who uses this product.

Wylie's Mom 11-11-2008 10:05 AM
I'm at work and trying to recall the name of the one I used to use for Marcel - I believe it was Michaels Probiotic - and it was from a really good health food store here in Phoenix - it was kept refrigerated (as many need to be). They had a ton to choose from, but I liked this one the best.

I bought this one *before* I had made contact w/ Susan Davis - if I had waited, I probably would have purchased hers as well as it has guaranteed potency and the FOS. (her probio doesn't have enzymes does it, Crystal?)

This is a great site for learning about strains: Probiotics & Prebiotics - Acidophilus, Bifidobacteria, Align, Culturelle, VSL#3

You can see that Align is very good for IBS (and others). Here are some more that are generally considered better quality: The Environmental Illness Resource - Treatment - Nutritional Supplements - Probiotics & Prebiotics

marcerella02 11-11-2008 10:21 AM
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Originally Posted by Ellie May (Post 2326276)
I know people probably think I am way too paranoid, skeptical and analytical about these products but Ellie has enough problems. She doesn't need more from my lack of research. :)

My two or three top veterinary probiotic choices contain this, so I am a bit frustrated. Then there is Pet Flora that won't even tell you what strains it contains. I want to use VSL but the vet said something about only using veterinary products for this in passing. I guess I have to ask her why.

Marci, the one you posted looks interesting but what are the affects of supplementing with lipase and amylase? The body doesn't stop producing its own, does it?
not sure what you mean> i went back and looked at the write up on the product and can't find either of those words anywhere.

Ellie May 11-11-2008 10:49 AM
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Originally Posted by marcerella02 (Post 2326506)
not sure what you mean> i went back and looked at the write up on the product and can't find either of those words anywhere.
Goodness, now I can't even find it. Maybe I mixed it up with another one.

Ladymom 11-11-2008 11:02 AM
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Originally Posted by Ellie May (Post 2326544)
Goodness, now I can't even find it. Maybe I mixed it up with another one.
I bet you mixed it up with the Animal Essentials one I posted. It contains lipase and amylase. It is a combination probiotics and plant enzymes for digestion.

Lady is diabetic, though, so her pancreas needs extra support since it doesn't produce insulin and is prone to pancreatitis.

I would be interested in your opinion on it, though. I recently switched to it after a holistic vet recommended it to a member on another forum.

Ellie May 11-11-2008 11:24 AM
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Originally Posted by Ladymom (Post 2326553)
I bet you mixed it up with the Animal Essentials one I posted. It contains lipase and amylase. It is a combination probiotics and plant enzymes for digestion.

Lady is diabetic, though, so her pancreas needs extra support since it doesn't produce insulin and is prone to pancreatitis.

I would be interested in your opinion on it, though. I recently switched to it after a holistic vet recommended it to a member on another forum.
Ellie's pancreas can use all the help it can get also but I don't know anything about supplementing with lipase and amylase. I would want to figure out first whether or not the body stops producing it if you supplement with it like calcium pre-whelp...

marcerella02 11-11-2008 11:39 AM
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Originally Posted by Ellie May (Post 2326573)
Ellie's pancreas can use all the help it can get also but I don't know anything about supplementing with lipase and amylase. I would want to figure out first whether or not the body stops producing it if you supplement with it like calcium pre-whelp...
Layla is on a lipase for her pancreatitis. The nutritionist explained it to me as if you are giving it to her- her pancrease won't have to work in over drive to produce it and thus she won't have an "episode"

Yorkieluv 11-11-2008 12:23 PM
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Originally Posted by Wylie's Mom (Post 2326478)
I'm at work and trying to recall the name of the one I used to use for Marcel - I believe it was Michaels Probiotic - and it was from a really good health food store here in Phoenix - it was kept refrigerated (as many need to be). They had a ton to choose from, but I liked this one the best.

I bought this one *before* I had made contact w/ Susan Davis - if I had waited, I probably would have purchased hers as well as it has guaranteed potency and the FOS. (her probio doesn't have enzymes does it, Crystal?)

This is a great site for learning about strains: Probiotics & Prebiotics - Acidophilus, Bifidobacteria, Align, Culturelle, VSL#3

You can see that Align is very good for IBS (and others). Here are some more that are generally considered better quality: The Environmental Illness Resource - Treatment - Nutritional Supplements - Probiotics & Prebiotics
Excellent links, Anne :) Very informative about what each of the strains are good for. I'm saving those!! :)

LuvMySissy 11-11-2008 02:22 PM
We just started using Priobiots by AskAriel nutritionist Susan Davis.

Ellie May 11-14-2008 03:23 PM
I was just talking to Ellie's vet and she did say that human products shouldn't be used. She read it in an article (I guess it is new research). It has something to do with them not working on humans and dogs... They need their own. That means VSL #3 is out for us and that's the one I wanted to use. :(

RLC12345678 11-14-2008 05:54 PM
I use Activa yogurt

Ellie May 11-14-2008 06:02 PM
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Originally Posted by RLC12345678 (Post 2331845)
I use Activa yogurt
I would looooove to use yogurt instead of this pill garbage. I know it isn't as powerful but very healthy. I had some concerns about it being dairy and full of calcium because of Ellie's pancreas though.

marcerella02 11-14-2008 06:04 PM
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Originally Posted by Ellie May (Post 2331856)
I would looooove to use yogurt instead of this pill garbage. I know it isn't as powerful but very healthy. I had some concerns about it being dairy and full of calcium because of Ellie's pancreas though.
I told Layla's nutritionist that Layla was getting fat free yogurt and she said that was great- wouldn't bother her pancrease since there was no fat. But she only gets like 2 tsps a day- if that

Ellie May 11-14-2008 06:07 PM
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Originally Posted by marcerella02 (Post 2331857)
I told Layla's nutritionist that Layla was getting fat free yogurt and she said that was great- wouldn't bother her pancrease since there was no fat. But she only gets like 2 tsps a day- if that
Hmmmm, that's great.
I can get fat free maybe but I think the calcium can set the pancreas off.
It is more of an issue in Ellie's case because high bile acids can cause pancreatitis because I guess they are full of calcium and it irritates the pancreas. I wasn't sure if I should add to the load on the pancreas but I might just try because her numbers were so good...at least until I pick a product.:rolleyes:

marcerella02 11-14-2008 07:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Ellie May (Post 2331859)
Hmmmm, that's great.
I can get fat free maybe but I think the calcium can set the pancreas off.
It is more of an issue in Ellie's case because high bile acids can cause pancreatitis because I guess they are full of calcium and it irritates the pancreas. I wasn't sure if I should add to the load on the pancreas but I might just try because her numbers were so good...at least until I pick a product.:rolleyes:
how frustrating for you! Poor sweet Ellie- not one thing its the next- so how do you make sure she is getting enough calcium then?


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