Ethics
 

What would you do if a person went on your personal web site that you have put a copyright declaration on, posted that pictures are not to be copied and took your pictures, removed the stamp you put on them and are posting them eveywhere?

Ask them if they have a lawyer?

Well... I mean how much can you really do - aside from be angry?!? Unless you know this person, personally - think your limited on what you can do...

That sucks. It's happening way too much with these scammers. I know my cat's breeder has some kind of protection on her website that won't allow you copy and paste or save a picture on her site. I don't know how she made it that way, but that would be effective since people couldn't copy your pictures from your site.

I would tell them you have a lawyer and report any listings they've made with your pictures so their listings will be removed. Maybe the mention of a lawsuit and a lawyer will scare them

Sorry to hear this is happening...people have no morals anymore!!!:mad:

Looked at your site and was very impressed, your dogs are really beautiful!!!

Spoke with an attorney and was told that all pictures are personal property and they are copyrighted. Also spoke with an international web builder and I was told that no one has the right to copy pictures off of a web site and to post publicly without written permission. Hopefully this will not have to get ugly.

exactly

You can go into your web builder and make it so no one can copy pics off your site - I had to do this to stop my dogs and puppies from being listed on Puppyfind by a scammer ,

If you can't figure out how to do it - PM me and I will help you- unethical people don't care anything about our copyright- they just erase it with editing software - just make it so they can't take it - If a customer or someone wants a pic they can email you and you can always send it to them

Thank you. We have sent her an email and posted it publicly. Things are really getting out of hand.

Is this the Czechoslavakian site you are referring to? If so, I saw it and don't blame you gals for being PO'd! :mad: :thumbdown

No unfortunately it is a good old American site. Stolen by a fellow countrywoman!:(

I should have known what it involved without asking, considering....:rolleyes:
Silly me! Guess the Czech site is OK then? Whatever.

The 'international web builder' part threw me off and made me ask, sorry.

There is a way to code your website, so that people can't steal your pictures.

Callyour lawyer.. I'd give you more advice but my uncle who is a lawyer specializing in pattern and trademark is in beijing.. but ask you lawyer

We have contacted an attorney and have taken the steps he told us to. It's really sad when you say that pictures are personal property and not for public use and they take them anyway.

Can you tell us which site?

That is unbelievable! What has happened to people's morals today? :(

Contact the web server and tell them about the copywrite violation and ask them to take the images down.

Angela <><

Were the photos your talking about your own personal photos of your own dogs or ones given to you by someone else, say possibly recounting a history of a breed? Do you think it could be possible, if they were given to you by another party, that someone could have also sent the same photos to this party?

I'm not sure I would immediately always think that someone is out to get you or steal from you without looking at all the other possiblities too.

-Diana :animal-pa

It doesn't matter, when photos are the personal property of a club or person they cannot be copied and published without the permission of the owner or club. When a person takes photos off of a site and then doctors off the name of the club and invites everyone to use them on their web sites that is stealing and illegal. The photos taken were published with the specific instructions that they were not for copying. Now how much clearer than that can you get? Please don't make excuses for someone that would be so unethical.

Hi MorkieAZ, http://biewer-btca.com/BiewerHistory.html

The originals are in the hands of the IBC, therefore it would be impossible to have sent them to any one else. You can look at our sites to see what Sierrapups is talking about.
Do you think that you may have been given wrong information? Some people have a hard time accepting the truth even when it's black and white.

It was brought to my attention that some of my pictures from my personal website are in several different places too. I never was asked for permission for my photos to be used. :eek: I am the author and owner of all of this work!

I guess since I have a copywrite on my website it hasn't stop people to think it is okay to just grab and run off with them.....

happened to me, too. Mine showed up on puppyfind and the only place I had ever posted them was here. It was only two puppy pictures which I had already sold so i didn't say anything about it but I will raise a huge stink if it ever happens again.

The Czech guy has used a lot of our pictures but he didn't say:
"I found these and would like to share"
"I just love gathering the history of the Biewer".

When asked if they could be used she says "Oh, yes, of course. I found the two images, cleaned them up and pasted them together to make a nice presentation. I think it would be wonderful to put on the website. Also anyone who wants it on their own web site. These are historical photos, and no one has a copyright filed on them. Even though I edited the old images, I don't intend to claim a copyright on this image, artistic license in reverse". LOL

Well, it is not Laugh Out Loud funny!
Everyone knows she took them off of the IBC web site where it is boldly stated that they are not to be copied. Big give away is the fact that the gold buttons in the gold braiding where Dagmar put her stamp is gone.:confuse2:

Thats sad and Wrong! So sorry it happened! I hope you get action soon.

How can you copyright pictures of dogs that arent't even your dogs to begin with???? And I find it quite interesting that you only come to this site when you feel the need for drama.....19 posts in almost 2 years! WOW!

I think everyone is missing the point...it is not who is the owner of the subject but rather the owner of the PICTURE. Everyone needs to read the copyright laws. If you take pictures of someone else's dog in a public place then you own the right to the picture not the person that owns the dog. That is how the paparazzi can take pictures of celebrities in public and be able to publish the pictures because they own the pictures. Thus Dagmar owns the pictures and has the copyright to them. She can then give permission to publish to anyone she wishes to or for that token not give permission either. It is very simple. If she requests or has someone request on her behalf to have the pictures removed from an unauthorized site then that request should be honored otherwise it is subject to litigation.
The same goes for the Czech site. He has absolutely no right to publish anyone else's pictures and should be shut down.

A copyright is secured automatically when a work is created. This concept is frequently misunderstood. Some people still believe that there are formalities required in order to create a copyright. This is not true. Under the latest version of the Copyright Act, neither publication nor registration with the Copyright Office of the Library of Congress is required in order to secure full copyright protection. When a work is created, it is automatically copyrighted.

In the case of photographs, it is sometimes difficult to determine who owns the copyright and there may be little or no information about the owner on individual copies. Ownership of a “copy” of a photograph – the tangible embodiment of the “work” – is distinct from the “work” itself – the intangible intellectual property. The owner of the “work” is generally the photographer or, in certain situations, the employer of the photographer. Even if a person hires a photographer to take pictures of a wedding, for example, the photographer will own the copyright in the photographs unless the copyright in the photographs is transferred, in writing and signed by the copyright owner, to another person. The subject of the photograph generally has nothing to do with the ownership of the copyright in the photograph. If the photographer is no longer living, the rights in the photograph are determined by the photographer’s will or passed as personal property by the applicable laws of interstate succession.

After you have located graphics that you would like to use in your web site, study the web sites containing the graphics to see if the sites give limitations on the use of information in the sites. These limitations might be (a) copyright notices for the sites, and (b) specific comments about use of the information. Keep in mind that pictures may be copyrighted even though no copyright notice is publicly displayed.

I just want to make sure that I understand correctly. Pictures of your dogs were taken from your site and put up on the Biewer Terrier Club of America website?