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Lexi Rae 05-31-2006 11:21 AM

you know what rhonda,,i dont care either....who really does...

k3teejay 05-31-2006 11:23 AM

Although I dont care much for Jennifer Aniston or Angelina Jolie (or for any actors for that matter), I dont think we should judge anybody that we havent met personally. I know alot of people do change for the better. For example; myself. I will admit that I've gone through many tribulations in my life including drug use. I am ashamed of it and will never go back. I know that automatically many people will think that I'm a terrible person because, let's face it, most people that are associated with drugs are pretty terrible. But all I can say is only God can judge me. Same goes to Jennifer and Angelina. Their lives are not for us to judge. Just my 2 cents.

Ponyup 05-31-2006 11:24 AM

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Originally Posted by k3teejay
Although I dont care much for Jennifer Aniston or Angelina Jolie (or for any actors for that matter), I dont think we should judge anybody that we havent met personally. I know alot of people do change for the better. For example; myself. I will admit that I've gone through many tribulations in my life including drug use. I am ashamed of it and will never go back. I know that automatically many people will think that I'm a terrible person because, let's face it, most people that are associated with drugs are pretty terrible. But all I can say is only God can judge me. Same goes to Jennifer and Angelina. Their lives are not for us to judge. Just my 2 cents.

good post, I agree.

vainchick5 05-31-2006 11:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Lexi Rae
you know what rhonda,,i dont care either....who really does...

I don't care about them, because I don't know them but what bothers me is that some people can put someone on a pedastal even though they have done bad things in their life (as well as the lives of others) and set horrible examples for our children and society. But because they adopted a couple of kids or travel to other countries, they are suddenly a role model. Doesn't work that way.

k3teejay 05-31-2006 12:00 PM

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Originally Posted by vainchick5
I don't care about them, because I don't know them but what bothers me is that some people can put someone on a pedastal even though they have done bad things in their life (as well as the lives of others) and set horrible examples for our children and society. But because they adopted a couple of kids or travel to other countries, they are suddenly a role model. Doesn't work that way.

vainchick5 - I completely see your point of view but sometimes things are different...
I've done some things in my life that I am very ashamed of. I dont expect anyone to view me as a role model but alot do. It started when I wrote a paper about my life's tribulations as a child for a school project. The response that I received from all my fellow students were overwhelming. People that I didnt know came up to me and told me how my story helped them. I just wish people wouldnt be so quick to judge. I have changed tremendously and I would never go back to my old ways and some day I would love to have children of my own and it would devastate me if anyone thought I'd be a bad parent because of my past. Anyway, that's just me. I always see a flicker of hope for everyone that's gone astray.

cheryl000 05-31-2006 12:36 PM

What I really get annoyed with is that all she has to do is VISIT a 3rd world country and automatically she gets citizenship for it and some kind of huge reward JUST because of who she is. Normal people who do MORE charity work DO NOT get the amount of recognition or attention for doing MORE than what she does. People act like she is the equivalent of Mother Teresa who dedicated her WHOLE life to helping the poor. I searched exactly what Angilina does and it looks like she just tours and visits the places, so she doesn't get her hands dirty.
I also find it WRONG that just because she has tons of money and is famous she's allowed to adopt so freely. My husband and I looked into adopting and JUST because we are under 30 everywhere we went to wouldn't let us adopt. We are financially stable, I am a stay at home mom, and I think that we're a great family. So we have to wait a couple of years but I respect those rules and they are there for reasons I'm sure. Many places also won't let single parents adopt. But Angelina was under 30, single, and had an extremely busy working schedule. I think it's sad that money makes people above rules and is an overriding factor. These are kids, they shouldn't go to the highest bidder.

vainchick5 05-31-2006 12:38 PM

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Originally Posted by cheryl000
What I really get annoyed with is that all she has to do is VISIT a 3rd world country and automatically she gets citizenship for it and some kind of huge reward JUST because of who she is. Normal people who do MORE charity work DO NOT get the amount of recognition or attention for doing MORE than what she does. People act like she is the equivalent of Mother Teresa who dedicated her WHOLE life to helping the poor. I searched exactly what Angilina does and it looks like she just tours and visits the places, so she doesn't get her hands dirty.
I also find it WRONG that just because she has tons of money and is famous she's allowed to adopt so freely. My husband and I looked into adopting and JUST because we are under 30 everywhere we went to wouldn't let us adopt. We are financially stable, I am a stay at home mom, and I think that we're a great family. So we have to wait a couple of years but I respect those rules and they are there for reasons I'm sure. Many places also won't let single parents adopt. But Angelina was under 30, single, and had an extremely busy working schedule. I think it's sad that money makes people above rules and is an overriding factor. These are kids, they shouldn't go to the highest bidder.

Excellent post :thumbup:

JCarlson2004 05-31-2006 12:39 PM

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Originally Posted by cheryl000
What I really get annoyed with is that all she has to do is VISIT a 3rd world country and automatically she gets citizenship for it and some kind of huge reward JUST because of who she is. Normal people who do MORE charity work DO NOT get the amount of recognition or attention for doing MORE than what she does. People act like she is the equivalent of Mother Teresa who dedicated her WHOLE life to helping the poor. I searched exactly what Angilina does and it looks like she just tours and visits the places, so she doesn't get her hands dirty.
I also find it WRONG that just because she has tons of money and is famous she's allowed to adopt so freely. My husband and I looked into adopting and JUST because we are under 30 everywhere we went to wouldn't let us adopt. We are financially stable, I am a stay at home mom, and I think that we're a great family. So we have to wait a couple of years but I respect those rules and they are there for reasons I'm sure. Many places also won't let single parents adopt. But Angelina was under 30, single, and had an extremely busy working schedule. I think it's sad that money makes people above rules and is an overriding factor. These are kids, they shouldn't go to the highest bidder.

Excellent post - I agree.

Rem&Silkmom 05-31-2006 01:25 PM

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Originally Posted by cheryl000
What I really get annoyed with is that all she has to do is VISIT a 3rd world country and automatically she gets citizenship for it and some kind of huge reward JUST because of who she is. Normal people who do MORE charity work DO NOT get the amount of recognition or attention for doing MORE than what she does. People act like she is the equivalent of Mother Teresa who dedicated her WHOLE life to helping the poor. I searched exactly what Angilina does and it looks like she just tours and visits the places, so she doesn't get her hands dirty.
I also find it WRONG that just because she has tons of money and is famous she's allowed to adopt so freely. My husband and I looked into adopting and JUST because we are under 30 everywhere we went to wouldn't let us adopt. We are financially stable, I am a stay at home mom, and I think that we're a great family. So we have to wait a couple of years but I respect those rules and they are there for reasons I'm sure. Many places also won't let single parents adopt. But Angelina was under 30, single, and had an extremely busy working schedule. I think it's sad that money makes people above rules and is an overriding factor. These are kids, they shouldn't go to the highest bidder.

i agree...the sad part is that she gets all of this attention because of us. People pay to see her picture on those magazines and watch stupid e entertainment. If people would stop buying those magazines and watching that crap on TV she would not be so popular. I wonder how many times the internet was hit looking for baby news.

red98vett 05-31-2006 01:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Rem&Silkmom
i agree...the sad part is that she gets all of this attention because of us. People pay to see her picture on those magazines and watch stupid e entertainment. If people would stop buying those magazines and watching that crap on TV she would not be so popular. I wonder how many times the internet was hit looking for baby news.

You are SO RIGHT ! and my computer will NEVER hit any search looking for celeb news unless it's a hot looking GUY. I don't watch anything about them - not E entertainment - not Inside Edition - nothing - the celebs in the world are over paid and over celebrated.

But you're right - people are obsessed with celebs - which in turn causes an uproar over everything they do.

PlatinumYorkies 05-31-2006 02:37 PM

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Originally Posted by cheryl000
What I really get annoyed with is that all she has to do is VISIT a 3rd world country and automatically she gets citizenship for it and some kind of huge reward JUST because of who she is. Normal people who do MORE charity work DO NOT get the amount of recognition or attention for doing MORE than what she does. People act like she is the equivalent of Mother Teresa who dedicated her WHOLE life to helping the poor. I searched exactly what Angilina does and it looks like she just tours and visits the places, so she doesn't get her hands dirty.
I also find it WRONG that just because she has tons of money and is famous she's allowed to adopt so freely. My husband and I looked into adopting and JUST because we are under 30 everywhere we went to wouldn't let us adopt. We are financially stable, I am a stay at home mom, and I think that we're a great family. So we have to wait a couple of years but I respect those rules and they are there for reasons I'm sure. Many places also won't let single parents adopt. But Angelina was under 30, single, and had an extremely busy working schedule. I think it's sad that money makes people above rules and is an overriding factor. These are kids, they shouldn't go to the highest bidder.

Actually, some things aren't correct..private agencies are the ones who charge people to adopt kids, and then want them to be straight, and married. I am a 30 yr. old single woman who can't have kids..I've done enough research on this to write a book. Kids of are in state runned facilities can be adopted by single parents. I hate that agencies and society looks down on someone who is single when it comes to adopting babies and kids. Also, international adoption agencies are much different, so is direct adoption( that's when the parents of the baby choose the mom...like in both her kids cases) Adopting a kid takes more than financial stablity and a 2 parent household. I know a single woman who adopted at 27, she had NO problems and she has a moderate income and adopting kid number 2.

cheryl000 05-31-2006 04:52 PM

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Originally Posted by PlatinumYorkies
Actually, some things aren't correct..private agencies are the ones who charge people to adopt kids, and then want them to be straight, and married. I am a 30 yr. old single woman who can't have kids..I've done enough research on this to write a book. Kids of are in state runned facilities can be adopted by single parents. I hate that agencies and society looks down on someone who is single when it comes to adopting babies and kids. Also, international adoption agencies are much different, so is direct adoption( that's when the parents of the baby choose the mom...like in both her kids cases) Adopting a kid takes more than financial stablity and a 2 parent household. I know a single woman who adopted at 27, she had NO problems and she has a moderate income and adopting kid number 2.

International adoption agencies were the ones I was looking into. They had prerequisites are that you have to be over 30 and married. The only difference I see is that she is a celebrity with tons of money and that makes a difference to people. Of course it takes more than being married and having money. But being a celebrity doesn't make you the better parent. I hope that they didn't skip over any other rules just because she's Angelina. For those kid's sake I hope that she got a mental evaluation due to her stint in the mental institution.
In the first adoption she used the services of Lauryn Galindo who's adoption services were based out of Hawaii. Lauryn was sentenced to 18 months for visa fraud and money-laundering. The lady was falsifying record and many of the kids were BOUGHT from these poor families just to be sold to adoption agencies. :thumbdown :mad: Has anyone ever seen Memoirs of a Geisha? This happens a lot in many poor countries.
For the second adoption the mother gave her up because she was very poor. I think Angelina is terrible for adopting from a family who's in a bad financial situation. I understand that the mother wants to give her baby the best life possible, but it has to be heart wrenching on everyone except Angelina. Since she can afford to why doesn't she just give the family money instead?
I also think that Angelina is weird for writing her first husband's name in her blood on her t-shirt during their wedding. Then her and billybob had vials of each other’s blood around their necks, they also made out in public constantly. She's into cutting for foreplay. I have even seen her open-mouth kiss her brother. She also says the Fword excessively in interviews, which to me shows a lack of class. Sorry, but Angelina seems like a real freaky person compared to Jennifer. This stuff about her was found on wikipedia.com

BabyFidgette 05-31-2006 05:09 PM

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Originally Posted by cheryl000
What I really get annoyed with is that all she has to do is VISIT a 3rd world country and automatically she gets citizenship for it and some kind of huge reward JUST because of who she is. Normal people who do MORE charity work DO NOT get the amount of recognition or attention for doing MORE than what she does. People act like she is the equivalent of Mother Teresa who dedicated her WHOLE life to helping the poor. I searched exactly what Angilina does and it looks like she just tours and visits the places, so she doesn't get her hands dirty.
I also find it WRONG that just because she has tons of money and is famous she's allowed to adopt so freely. My husband and I looked into adopting and JUST because we are under 30 everywhere we went to wouldn't let us adopt. We are financially stable, I am a stay at home mom, and I think that we're a great family. So we have to wait a couple of years but I respect those rules and they are there for reasons I'm sure. Many places also won't let single parents adopt. But Angelina was under 30, single, and had an extremely busy working schedule. I think it's sad that money makes people above rules and is an overriding factor. These are kids, they shouldn't go to the highest bidder.

Money, money, money, money! :rolleyes: If you have it, and you're famous, you get what you want. :eek:

txshopper73 05-31-2006 07:17 PM

I know past drug abusers that have grown up and make wonderful parents. You can't hold a person's past mistakes against them forever. Everyone deserves a second (and sometimes third and fourth) chance. No one is perfect and who are we to judge others? It's human nature to judge and sometimes, we need to be reminded.....

I agree with whoever said a few pages ago that although Angelina has been involved with engaged/married men, the men are also to blame. She didn't hold a gun to anyone's head and forced them to go be with her. They did it on their own. Do I think that going after engaged/married men is right? No, I do not. But, the blame isn't hers entirely.

I do believe that she loves her adopted children. Her reasons for adoption? Who knows. Whether she did it for publicity or for whatever reasons, I think we'd all agree that those children are in a better place now. They eat, have clothes on their backs and are living the kind of life that they would have never gotten a chance to have, had she not adopted them.

Anyway, speaking of adoption, I think that Rosie broke all the rules for being able to adopt a kid, yet she's done just that. I think that anyone that adopts children are truly blessings. I'd rather get adopted by a known former drug addict/homewrecker than to live till my 18th birthday in an institution where I was just a number. JM2C.

Bizzymammabee 06-01-2006 05:38 AM

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Originally Posted by txshopper73
I know past drug abusers that have grown up and make wonderful parents. You can't hold a person's past mistakes against them forever. Everyone deserves a second (and sometimes third and fourth) chance. No one is perfect and who are we to judge others? It's human nature to judge and sometimes, we need to be reminded.....

I agree with whoever said a few pages ago that although Angelina has been involved with engaged/married men, the men are also to blame. She didn't hold a gun to anyone's head and forced them to go be with her. They did it on their own. Do I think that going after engaged/married men is right? No, I do not. But, the blame isn't hers entirely.

I do believe that she loves her adopted children. Her reasons for adoption? Who knows. Whether she did it for publicity or for whatever reasons, I think we'd all agree that those children are in a better place now. They eat, have clothes on their backs and are living the kind of life that they would have never gotten a chance to have, had she not adopted them.

Anyway, speaking of adoption, I think that Rosie broke all the rules for being able to adopt a kid, yet she's done just that. I think that anyone that adopts children are truly blessings. I'd rather get adopted by a known former drug addict/homewrecker than to live till my 18th birthday in an institution where I was just a number. JM2C.


Well said!!!!


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