Yeah, what's your point? :confused: I didn't feel like getting out of the reply to see the name of the person. It's not like I was dissing you. And I thought I was sensitive. :thinking:

Why would it embarrass you? I was band all thru highschool, and sometimes it took my parents and other parents to get involved in situations like this. Sometimes kids are intimidated by there coaches/leaders, so they don't think they can say anything or think they will actually listen to them.

I just gave her my suggestions, the same thing you did.
It seemed like you were describing minimal support.
I think it's great that her son has such a close relationship with her that he would tell her when something is bothering him like htat.

Well, my parents never supported me when I was in school. They never came to one game and I had to quit basketball eventually because they wouldn't buy the basketball shoes for it. They didn't help out with prom when I asked, nothing. They didn't even go to the prom-walk in. Mom was even a stay-at-home mom. And dad felt like drinking beer and watching tv was more importnant I guess. I fully intend to support everything that is important to my son unlike how I was raised.
But we can agree to disagree. In the end she will do whatever she wants and hopefully her son will be able to play on the team.

EXACTLY my point! Sometimes they feel like their grade my be changed or the teacher will hate them. :thumbup: Sometimes parents need to step in!

So true, Uncle Roy comes out here to watch the Seniors play. He's a Basketball Coach for the NC Tar Heels. I'm sure Baseball is the same way, they want to see the Seniors play. They can't offer Scholarships, if they don't watch them play. Sometimes they will see them the year before, but they do come back and check on how they are doing. I know, because that's how we get to see Uncle Roy so much.

I have a feeling this coach is going to have a bad day.

I have seen what happens when sport parents get angry, esp when the coaches/school are in the wrong, as they are in this situation. It is not pretty to say the least.

Good Luck with your talk with the school. Lets us know what happens.

Forget what I said then.

It's pointless.

I know I'm probably going to sound like I am contradicting myself as to what I said above, but here it goes:

I am a teacher (as I stated before :) ), and it does get a little annoying when kids go home and "tattle" on me, and then I get a phone call from mommy or daddy. I would prefer in this situation for the child to come to me privately and discuss the problem. When everyone has cooled off (the student and myself) the problem is most always solved...whether I fix it, the student does, or nothing gets fixed but there is more of an understanding. I am one of those teachers who will admit to being wrong and I don't want my kids to hate me. If they do, that's their choice, but I'm not saying I like it. :D
Now, if the kid does go home and what I feel like is sometimes "tattling" I will resolve whatever it is with the parent. That doesn't mean the parent "gets his/her way." It means we had an adult converstion and everyone understands the decision I made. Once again, if I feel as though I am wrong, I will fix what I did. So, I am all for speaking with the child first.
BUT...this involves a group of children. If the children bombarded the coach, he might get more angry. In my opinion, the parents need to intervene in this case. The students are obvioulsy very upset and need back up from their parents. I'm glad everyone is going to speak to the coach.
All I have to say in my conclusion is this: I am DARN happy I am not that coach today!! :D

If I upset you. I'm sorry. I don't want to make anyone upset with me on YT. :D I can understand where you are coming from. :) Read my post above. ;)

I'm sorry to hear about your upbringing. Parents should not behave like that. I guess that's why you feel so strongly about parental involvement.

For me, my mom has always pushed me to think and to look for solutions myself. Sure, I'd always tell her what's bugging me and she'd offer me advice and her opinions. She'd encourage me to take steps, provided, that's what I wanted to do. Because of the way she brought me up, I'm very confident with what I do.

We had a family friend who's constantly worried about her son. She'd shelter him from anything and everything. He grew up with a bad immune system, can't handle a slight cold. I remember whenever he had problems at school, confrontation with someone, his mom ALWAYS stepped in. His gap between his peers became even wider. He had and has no friends.

Apparantly, my opinions of child-rearing are very different from everyone elses' on here. But, that's just the way I was raised and I believe my mom did a terrific job on both my brother and I.

I don't intervene, even though it sounds like I do. But in this case, if there is a scholarship possibility, I'd be complaining. And as someone whose had family members receive such scholarships....you already know by the kid's senior year if they're watching them. It is not a surprise. Serni would already know if scouts were watching her son. I would intervene if this were the case. Yelling to get your kid back on a team, doesn't necessarily mean they'll play any where but the bench Btw, the HS coaches have a hand in scholarships too. They're your mediary (sp?) with the scouts.

Then again....it's very, very difficult to see your child cry. I don't know many mothers who don't want to fix the hurt ;)

It's not being about upset or not. It's just very frustrated for me to see parents marching into school administrative building and "demand" for something.

As you said in your post, you're a teacher as I was. I too can understand a child "tatalling" to their parents is a semi-difficult issue.

In the past, I've always asked the parents (after our private discussion) to have their kids talk to me instead. It works in great favors for everyone. The child gains confidence and self-esteem in talking to an adult about a certain issue. They "feel" they've resolved it on their own. The parents will feel they've communicated with the teaching staff. It's an open communication and everyone is on the same page.

As for this case, I provided the minimal advise because I don't know if her son and his teammates had talked to the coach already and still got rejected or what. I don't know what steps they have taken in order to get their positions back. If they had done all that and still gotten no where, of course, by all means, the parents should be involved.

I didn't want to assume and thus I gave my very basic opinion.

I'm sure your Mom did a great job with you and your brother. I have five children, and when something happens, they know I am here for them if they need my help. But I have to tell you, if someone was going to mess up my childs Scholarships I would be the first to step in, and no one could stop me.
This Coach is so wrong, and it sounds to me more like a power play than anything else. I have alot of friends who are Teachers, and I worked at an Elementary school for 14 years, So I know all the problems with parents. Students can and will step up and fix things on their own. But like I said this is Scholarships, and I would make sure it's fixed ASAP,
this is Baseball season, and one missed game, can make one messed up future.
I wish all the Seniors the best of luck, as this is their time to shine, and no one should take it away from them. :) :) :)

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I do agree! I have also worked in school systems.......and if the above fails, I would talk to some of the other parents of seniors that were kicked off (if it's ok with your son) and if everyone agrees about how unfair this situation is.....go see the principal. This is so unfair to those senior boys, I just can't believe it. Good Luck and Hang in There......... :thumbup:

I was raised to never talk back to my elders and have respect for my authority figures (teachers & coaches) so in this situation to speak up for myself would be disrespectful based on the way I was raised. I would have a very hard time doing this and doing it correctly even if my parents told me it was okay. I've had coaches like this before. They are trying to prove a point that they don't care how long you've played it's their team now. If you stand up to these type of coaches it just makes things worse because then you look like a trouble maker. I believe the coach is trying to threaten and bully these kids and someone needs to intervien. Coaches can come up with the wierdest things to exercise their power. My BIL was cut his senior year because he refused to cut his hair. Go figure.

I do agree with you that problems should be solved on the lowest possible level. Then if there are still problems, go up to the next level. This is something they really stressed when I was in the Navy. I think it's great that you felt like you could talk to your mother about things and trust her so much.
I agree with you that communication is very important. I think that a parent should also involve their kid in any actions they plan to take and let them know what is going on every step of the way. What is going on is so important to these kids and they need their parents to at least guide them on what to do. I think that this is a major case and I hope it gets resolved soon and the they don't miss a game.

My independent, just like her mother, daughter has no fear talking to adults. While in 5th grade, she casually mentions at dinner that she told her teacher....I don't like you and you're a lousy teacher :eek: :eek: Not spoken in anger, just cause she thought he needed to know. I thought I would die. My little miss know it all was promptly informed she was to go back to school and apologize for this remark. You can think it, but it was very disrepectful and hurt his feelings. And how do I know she did what I told her.....I called him later in the week.

Lol. That's pretty funny. Good of her to speak her mind but even better that you teach her to respect her elders. :D

So did she apologize? :)

Yes, she apologized in person and in a note later. When she first told us she'd done this....the first words out of my mouth were....YOU DID WHAT?!?!?! We actually have a social circle that includes this teacher, he was pretty understanding about it....Thank God :)

I think I'd rather have a student like your daughter who is not afraid to tell me what's on her mind, even to that extend. Why? I'd know how to work it out with her and talk it out with her.

But, with students that "hide" and won't communicate except through their parents, I find it difficult to work with. I don't know what they're thinking and thus don't know how to help them.

Again, good job raising your daughter! :)

Sometimes I don't think it's the good job we're doing....it's my mother's revenge

I think a lot of good points have been made about the best way to resolve the problem, but the bottom line is it should be resolved. This is high school athletics, not college. This coach has made the team about him, and that's just wrong. If the principal doesn't intervene, you should considering taking the matter to the school board. Well, encouraging your son to take the matter to the school board.

AY, with another I'll take both sides opinion...LOL

Ok this coach has got to go... The boys went to talk to coach and asked him about his decision to cut them. His reply. NOW I HOPE YOU"RE ALL SITTING DOWN!!!!!

It's all about winning, he wants a team that he molded not one molded by someone else. He cut the pitcher who actually throw the winning stike outs for our HS team to win the county championship last year. :confused: :confused: He doesn't care that they are seniors. It isn't about having fun or your senior year, IT"S ABOUT WINNING. He will mold his team!!! WTF! If this isn't enough his equally waco brother is the asst. coach. The parents have requested a meeting with him and the principal and it is scheduled for tomorrow. The guys are really disgusted right now, who can blame them. My son was approched during school by the track coach who said asked him and another teammate to come be sprinters for track team since the BB coach is a j/o. THis is completely insane I feel like I am back in Little League with some of THOSE parents. :eek: :mad:

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Time to call the School Board!!!!!

Since you son and his teammates have tried and "failed", I'm glad you and other parents have stepped in.

Good luck with the meeting tomorrow and let us know what happened.

OMG!!!! What a jerk!!!!! I glad your son and his teammates went to the coach, but I think it is time for the the parents to step in. I would diffently call the school board and inform them of the meeting tomorrow with the principal because the they don't always know what is going on. I would suggest that your son and his friends right down everything that happend and was told on along with dates and times, so they have documentation to give to the proper people.

Go on line and check your schools bylaws. I just talked to our son, he's a High School Water Polo/Swimming Head Coach. He said there's no way that would fly here. The school can over ride a Coach. Sounds like a power trip coach to me. He will be very lucky if he still has a job by the end of the week. This is so much stress on the students, I feel very sorry for them.
Good luck to all your players.

I am so very sorry about the coach issue. I hope you are able to resolve it satisfactorily. Have you had a heart to heart talk to your son to get an thorough understanding about how he feels? It really sounds like the coach is on some sort of power trip to me. I work in the school system and understand some of the politics involved. :thumbdown