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Britster 06-08-2014 08:05 AM
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Originally Posted by Wylie's Mom (Post 4447162)
Every time I see this, I just love it, I get tears in my eyes lol! Secretariat was just so amazing.

Really sad that Chrome didn't win :(. Did anyone see the owner's interview afterward? He had some choice words for the other competitors who didn't race all 3 races (so that they had fresh horses).
I actually agree with him and can't believe I never knew that before! Sorry, but that just seems SO unfair to me.

In no other sports competition are you allowed to just... put a new team in, while everyone else has been working hard and training and tired, etc, I just think that's BS. You should have to race ALL 3 races so the competition is fair.

Wylie's Mom 06-08-2014 08:23 AM
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Originally Posted by Britster (Post 4447204)
I actually agree with him and can't believe I never knew that before! Sorry, but that just seems SO unfair to me.

In no other sports competition are you allowed to just... put a new team in, while everyone else has been working hard and training and tired, etc, I just think that's BS. You should have to race ALL 3 races so the competition is fair.
I agree w/ him too - it's simply not a fair/equal playing field when the horse skips the first 2 or the middle race - and then comes to Belmont fresh...not fair at all. I would like to see what the Belmont would be like when/if a more equal playing field was enforced.

crystalsmom 06-08-2014 11:09 AM
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Originally Posted by Wylie's Mom (Post 4447162)
Every time I see this, I just love it, I get tears in my eyes lol! Secretariat was just so amazing.

Really sad that Chrome didn't win :(. Did anyone see the owner's interview afterward? He had some choice words for the other competitors who didn't race all 3 races (so that they had fresh horses).
No I didn't hear it after Ann but I did long before the race and they tried to point that out, they were not bad losers. I was thinking that maybe the Derby stay in May, Preakness in June and Belmont in September (July and August) to hot for a mile and a half would be a good idea from now on. That didn't help yesterday and if they couldn't have changed their mind, I'm sure I can't

There have been complaints before this. We haven't seen the last of Chrome or his pedigree.

crystalsmom 06-08-2014 11:21 AM
ooops too late to edit to, to too in my last post. I hate when I do that. :(

EarthAngel 06-08-2014 11:34 AM
I agree there should be only a selected choice of horses to run in each of the races and that is it. Like any other tournament...ie. Wimbledon...you can't just add more players as it goes...poor analogy but you get my meaning.

The thing is I am guessing it has always been like this for the Triple Crown and if owners, breeders etc. don't like it that way, then try to change the rules. This is why Secretariat and the others were so exceptional in my opinion. They took it with any and all that came to challenge them.

I also saw something that Chrome had a cut front right hoof...maybe that had something to do with the way he couldn't run the way he would normally.

crystalsmom 06-09-2014 05:21 AM
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Originally Posted by EarthAngel (Post 4447312)
I agree there should be only a selected choice of horses to run in each of the races and that is it. Like any other tournament...ie. Wimbledon...you can't just add more players as it goes...poor analogy but you get my meaning.

The thing is I am guessing it has always been like this for the Triple Crown and if owners, breeders etc. don't like it that way, then try to change the rules. This is why Secretariat and the others were so exceptional in my opinion. They took it with any and all that came to challenge them.

I also saw something that Chrome had a cut front right hoof...maybe that had something to do with the way he couldn't run the way he would normally.
I get what you mean but of course they should have close to the same amount of rest. Could I add if changing to say 'selected number of horses with the same amount of rest the Preakness winner had when running the Belmont.' along with whatever is good for the sport that is already in the rules.(does this make sense?)

I'm beginning to change my mind somewhat about the timing of their complaint after the race was over, yet again they would never have a larger audience to advance their cause.

TxVicki 06-09-2014 06:55 AM
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Originally Posted by EarthAngel (Post 4447312)
I agree there should be only a selected choice of horses to run in each of the races and that is it. Like any other tournament...ie. Wimbledon...you can't just add more players as it goes...poor analogy but you get my meaning.

The thing is I am guessing it has always been like this for the Triple Crown and if owners, breeders etc. don't like it that way, then try to change the rules. This is why Secretariat and the others were so exceptional in my opinion. They took it with any and all that came to challenge them.

I also saw something that Chrome had a cut front right hoof...maybe that had something to do with the way he couldn't run the way he would normally.
Chrome's foot got stepped on coming out of the gate.

Cha Cha 06-09-2014 07:45 AM
Some horse racing trivia... So, have any of you read about the X-Factor heart in horses? X-factor refers to a large heart gene only passed on through the x-chromosome. The larger the heart, the more oxygen a horse can pump through it's blood when it runs, making it capable of running faster. Sires cannot pass it on to their sons, only their daughters. Secretariet is known to have had the x-factor and had HUGE heart. He is one of only a few who actually had his heart weighed after he died. I can't remember but it seems it was something like twice the size of a normal heart. (Don't quote me). He was not a great "stallion" sire, but his daughters were highly sought.

Here is some info if you horse racing fans would like to read. I love to study horse pedigrees and this is very interesting...

Chasing the X-Factor, Unofficial Thoroughbred Hall of Fame

Cha Cha 06-09-2014 07:54 AM
Ok, I looked it up. Secretariet's heart was 22 lbs. Almost 3 times the normal size of a thoroughbred. Whoa!

horsnaround 06-09-2014 08:09 AM
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Originally Posted by Cha Cha (Post 4447640)
Ok, I looked it up. Secretariet's heart was 22 lbs. Almost 3 times the normal size of a thoroughbred. Whoa!
Wow. He was a amazing horse No wonder with a heart that big :).

Lil Sis 06-09-2014 08:48 AM
I was very sad california chrome did not get the triple crown!:(

I agree with the owner.... it should be all three races or none at all, even the playing field.

ladyjane 06-09-2014 11:09 AM
This is nothing new. The owner is new to racing and just thought he was going to win...sour grapes is all it was. He didn't think it was unfair going in or perhaps he should not have gone in.
I am not a fan of horse racing any more...used to be but I hate what happens to so many of these beautiful animals.
BUT...felt I should comment on this. The reason the Triple Crown is so elusive is because of the way it is structured. The Belmont has always been this way....if you had the same horses competing in all three races, sure maybe there would be more Triple Crown winners, but that would make it all the less impressive. It really takes some horse to pull off those three races.

crystalsmom 06-09-2014 12:49 PM
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Originally Posted by TxVicki (Post 4447615)
Chrome's foot got stepped on coming out of the gate.
Oh I thought maybe someone with another horse had done that, well it's not good that happened but better than what I had thought.

Was wicked Strong next to him at the start? That horse was a nervous wreck a little before start.

I should have listened after the race was over but I was so disappointed, I called a couple people instead. They were no consolation.:D they were as bummed as I was.

crystalsmom 06-09-2014 12:58 PM
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Originally Posted by Cha Cha (Post 4447637)
Some horse racing trivia... So, have any of you read about the X-Factor heart in horses? X-factor refers to a large heart gene only passed on through the x-chromosome. The larger the heart, the more oxygen a horse can pump through it's blood when it runs, making it capable of running faster. Sires cannot pass it on to their sons, only their daughters. Secretariet is known to have had the x-factor and had HUGE heart. He is one of only a few who actually had his heart weighed after he died. I can't remember but it seems it was something like twice the size of a normal heart. (Don't quote me). He was not a great "stallion" sire, but his daughters were highly sought.

Here is some info if you horse racing fans would like to read. I love to study horse pedigrees and this is very interesting...

Chasing the X-Factor, Unofficial Thoroughbred Hall of Fame
I didn't know that until about a month ago. Another Secretariat and Man of War, will be hard to find. I saw Secretariat taking pictures with some children on video. The photographer wanted to keep everything safe but you could see he wanted to put his nose up against theirs.

Thank you for the info. We knew he had to have heart to accomplish what he did but the weight is of his is the machine that got him where he wanted to go.

Cha Cha 06-09-2014 01:08 PM
I read today that California Chrome is a gelding, but I can't back that up. Does anyone know for sure?


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