Spanking...from a TEACHER!!!
 

Although I have NEVER and would never use corporal punishment, I do work for a school system that allows it, it is becomming more and more discouraged with each year. Should you choose to use this form of punishment there are legal procedures that must be followed. This man made a serious of horrible mistakes.

This man's first mistake was making the comment, "You know, you're not too big for me to put over my knee and spank." Then, he should have not put is hands on her. Once the scuffle started, I am sure the girl felt threatened or even affraid.

I would never restrain a student unless someone was in danger.

This teacher is also charged with sexual assault because of the spanking. If he's found guilty, he could never teach children nor be around them without legal consequences. Some kids are really out of control these days, but I bet he wishes he had handled this differently.

I bet you are right. Under no circumstances should a teacher touch a child's bottom. Hopefully, he just let her attitude get the best of him and acted without thinking and nothing more.

A most serious lapse in judgement that he will probably regret for a long, long time. I understand frustration but that comment was unprofessional and somewhat creepy.

Pretty poor judgement, and it should never ave happened. However the girl did need to be disciplined but she should have been sent to the principal. it sounds to me like she was deliberately being disrespectful.

There is just way too much disrespect anymore, to parents, teachers, police officers..........

JMO but I think a little more spanking needs to be done at home.

:)JeanieK we actually agree on something!!:exclaim:

I believe that alot of kids now-a-days are just plain out of control. My mom retired from teaching in 1977 because she could and also said there was no way to discipline the students anymore.Seems the parents just go ape-sh*t if the school said that their darling is acting disrespectful and like a monster.
I do believe that spanking never hurt a child as long as it was for a good reason and isnt done in violence or out of anger/rage.

I used to be a believer in spare the rod, spoil the child.

However...five children later and all of them grown and having families of their own (be it skin or fur:rolleyes:), I don't really follow that ideology anymore.

My lil' :aimeeyorkgirls brought me to this realization. They can be so similar in childlike ways (naughty ones specifically) that are deserving of a spanking but, would I spank my dog? No way! I instead properly trained my dogs to behave.

So, maybe as parents we should start wearing a little fanny pack filled with "training treats" (human grade:rolleyes:) and start training our kids the right way! :D

But, seriously...I think the teacher overstepped his boundaries as an authority figure and will probably pay the price for that misstep.

My children were all spanked and they all believe in spanking the grandchildren. They need to learn at an early age that there are consequences for your actions.

It really does make life easier for them later in life.

When I was a kid, if we got in trouble in school. We were in double trouble when we got home. Teachers were there to TEACH, not to babysit.

OMG!! We are on the same page!!!

When I was in grade school, the teachers all had wooded paddles and they used them too. I think it scared the he*l out of us and we all behaved. I notice that we all survived and none of us were scarred. We all turned out pretty darned good. Most of us have great work ethics, great attitudes, went on to college and became great parents.

You are correct. The teachers are there to teach, not babysit. I dont know how they do it with the kids the way they are now. I think many get frustrated and end up doing what this teacher did. It was a bad judgement call.

I think the repurcussions of a spoiled child are much more serious than form a spoiled dog.

Some people DO use food to reward their children, but it tends to make children overweight.

If a spanking at the age of 2, makes them respectul when they are older, it is well worth it.

This is truely amazing :D

You could not pay me enough to be a teacher. I'm sure I would beat some of those kids.

Personally I believe it was easier to grow up and do the right thing when all authority figures were on the same page. So many kids now dont trust anyone because every where they turn there is a new set of rules.

My parents rasied 6 kids and we all grew up to be productive citizens. I, was a single working mother of 6 kids, with an absentee father, and they are all working, going to school and raising families.

And none of us are in therapy from being spanked.

I'm not a big believer in spankings. I grew up in Alabama where the teachers would paddle you over anything. Seriously, I do not think I learned any more or better there ~ but it was way more frightening. There were still fights, you name it. Police called to tame down riots . . .paddling did not stop any of that.

Did I swat my son's behind a time or two when he was a toddler? Yes, but it was more out of my anger than beneficial to him, I believe.

At any rate, it was a rare occurrence.

No matter how disrespectful this girl was being - a male teacher cannot, in this day and age, make those kind of comments and have a hand on her bottom. Which I seriously hope he did not. It sounds like he had a temper tantrum of his own.

My father taught school; he was a retired military officer and had no problem keeping order in his classroom -WITHOUT the use of a paddle.

Those must have been the days to be a teacher. :rolleyes:
I choose not to paddle because there is so much risk involved now. Some parents seem to be just waiting to run us through the ringer over anything. Poor parenting is so common these days it is scary.

I live in a district that allows corporal punishment. I have mixed feelings about it. On the one hand, I hate the thought of someone paddling my kids. On the other, I've been in the classrooms. The fact that it isn't used everyday shows some remarkable restraint on the part of the teachers, IMO.

I just don't remember EVER being allowed to behave in school the way some of these kids do.

I do think she was being disrespectful, and probably needed to be punished, but that was NOT the way to do it.

I am in high school now. I have some classes that are out of control and some classes where just a look from the teacher can strike fear into our hearts (LOL). If a teacher demands respect from day one, they can sure as heck get it without needing to spank a student.

Like someone earlier said - teachers are there to TEACH. IMO, if someone doesn't want to be taught, remove them from the classroom. It's not the teacher's job to make sure that all of the kids do everything, it's the teacher's job to provide the material, lessons, and help needed to those who truly want to learn. I feel like my education every day is hindered more by the teachers taking half an hour to deal with snotty kids than it is by the snotty kids themselves. (Honestly, having a teacher say "Stop it or I'm sending you to the office" every 30 seconds is MUCH more annoying than a couple of kids whispering in the back of the room).

I don't believe in spanking at all. I never was and I've turned out just fine. I don't want my future children to respect and obey me because they're afraid of being spanked, I want them to do it because they want to.

Ummm...the "treats" were meant as a joke! :p

However, alternatives to spanking and teaching your children proper behavior can be done without those measures.

What I was getting at...is if we spend as much time on "learning" how to train our dogs...we as parents should do the same for our children vs. the easy way out and spank.

I would rather teach my child why they shouldn't do something vs. instilling fear as a reason...and that does not make a child spoiled by any means.

Wow, Where I live the guy would have been fired, thrown in jail and then sued along with the school district.....and the family would have won...millions! That's California though...

My hat is off to the brave ones that teach today, because I wouldn't have the job. I do think he could have handled this a different way. It is a shame that some children do not have respect for others nor themselves that they feel they have to act out in public for what ever reason.

Well that teacher had a huge lapse in judgement IMO.
I think he acted out of frustration & anger. He should have sent her to the principal.
For those who work in schools that allow corporal punishment, are the teachers allowed to do it or is it done by the principal?

I'm not in favor of spankings, I think there are better ways to parent & discipline, again JMO.
Having said that, I think too many parents do not set rules, boundaries or enough and/or any repercussions for actions.
A lot of kids are out of control. They do not respect their parents or any adults and they are the ones in control.
I do feel sorry for teachers these days having to deal with kids like this. Some parents feel it's somehow the responsibility of the school to parent their child and hold the system responsible for the actions of their kids.

I'm always telling my friends, this is why I stick to dogs!! :D

In my district, teachers can paddle but there is a procedure to follow. You MUST have a witness that is also a teacher. It is to be done outside of the classroom. And you must fill out a discipline report.

Like I said earlier though, this is more and more discouraged each year. Our school even has a list of students whose parents have said their child is not to be touched by a teacher or any other faculty. They tell their kids this and I have had teachers tell me the kids will tell the teacher, "You can't do anything to me."
We need more parents like you!:)

I got it at home and at school (once) I turned out juuuuuust fine.
My parents never tried to be my "friend" . They were my parent. We had a great relationship and I have great manners. Maybe its a southern thing.. and perhaps if I had children I would reconsider my stand.. but seriously....I agree with a little hiney slappin at home to get their attention!!!

I think kids who are disciplined at home will not need the teacher to spank them. They already know that they had better listen to the teacher. It's those kids that are allowed to be mouthy, disrespectful, and disobedient at home, that will do it in school also.

I believe that kids really do want clear boundries set for them. It is easier, they don't have to figure it out for themselves.

The more time that a teacher has to spend on disruptive children, the less time they have to teach. And every disruption, causes loss of focus for the rest of the class.

I think it is a HUGE problem in our educational system, and one of the reasons we have fallen behind other countries.

I have a friend that drove school bus, and he said there was no discipline or respect on the bus. The driver cannot control the kids and drive the bus at the same time, and there were no consequences for misbehavior on the bus. If the kids start their day this way, it carries over to the classroom.

Well first of all, that child was WAY too old to spank. Spanking beyond the age of 6 or 7 is not necessary, by that age they are old enough to have privledges taken away or have detention, extra assignments or suspension.

An adult male putting his hands on a teenage girls bottom is just plain stupid.

I knew that you were not serious about the treats, but seriously, it is done. And that brings about another set of problems.

Some kids do gow ujp thinking that everytime the do the right thing, that they should be rewarded. They never learned that doing the right thing, has it's own rewards.

I agree with you. I think that teacher acted out of anger or was coming from some other place. It was extremely stupid in that case.
I also agree, when kids are old enough to know right from wrong & can reason, there are a lot of options parents have.
I think a lot of parents have gone to the opposite end of the spectrum in raising their kids. They do tried too hard to be their friend at an early age and do not set enough rules and boundaries.
Kids may not know that they want and need the limits, but they do and parents are doing them an injustice by not setting them.
I also think one of the worst mistakes any parent can make is covering up for their child when they know they have done wrong or worse, never thinking their child could do any wrong!

Interesting. The kids who make those kind of comments to teachers or any adults, clearly have parents who are not parenting.

:thumbup::thumbup::thumbup:Unfortunatly, in many cases, the parents are worse than the kids!!:mad:

I compare, the parent child relationship to moving to another planet. You can have a guide that is your friend and never teaches you anything or you can have one that is tough and makes you learn. At the end of the training period, which guide would you have appreciated more.