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As far as more taxes, fees etc it will affect only those breeders who do comply with the laws. Puppymillers are notorious for ignoring "rules". |
ladyjane, I find your answer kind of confusing. I see some of what you are saying, but I also see statements that most application rescues aren't that great (meaning, presumably that at least some of us here were turned down because WE'RE not so great), that it IS hard to get a rescue pup, but that not all rescues use the same criteria (so maybe it's easy? Or is it hard?). I see your point about not telling people why they've been rejected, but at them same time, how can people improve their situation if they don't know what's wrong? Of course you can't just turn dogs over at will to make people happy - but making it really hard and mysterious and disappointing basically means rescue is not a viable option. Which is it? |
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Rescues have the luxury of being able to review things more thoroughly. There are some rescues who up front will say a fence is required. We don't do that and I know a lot of rescues do not. What is important to me is how the person has handled previous pets. If they don't have a fence and never did....and have pups that have lived for many years then chances are they do not allow their pups to roam freely. There are some parts of the country where fences seem to be less common. |
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Regarding your last statement, it was VERY unfair. I went and bought my pups from a breeder for 2 reasons... there was NOT 1 YORKIE in ANY shelter in my area for 50 or 100 or 200 miles away from me. I live in a suburb of Boston and little dogs do not last in the shelter for more than a day IF they even make it to one. Little dogs in my area are VERY trendy these days sadly. I wanted YORKIES and if that is the breed I want, then that is the breed I'm going to buy, love and take care of. I should not have to take what the shelter offers because there are no yorkies and other careless people in the world just relinquished or abandoned their pet. I really wish I could rescue a whole bunch of dogs. But I can't afford more than 2 and my passion is with the Yorkie. The other reason is because I tried to rescue and got denied. Those are the facts. I was not looked at on a case by case basis. I was just flat out denied by a rescue. Well where do I turn when rescues deny and shelters don't have? I am in no way meaning to imply that I am taking your posts literal and as a personal attack on me. I know they are not, nor do I mean a personal attack on your. I hope you don't feel that way. I admire you. :) I just mean someone that was in my situation, what do they do? |
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I believe some do give excuses. I am SO against that. That is just stupid because a person can just come back and say they will put a fence up if you use that as an excuse. We reserve the right to refuse anyone and we don't often give a reason. We have a standard letter and we don't give individual reasons. We let them know that if they are being considered, we will contact them. Most of the time people do understand. Now, in a case where someone is not giving Heartworm preventatives, we do tell the person. This is a chance for education! It is also something they cannot hide on another application. Either you have proof that you have been purchasing it...and have proof that your pups are tested yearly or you don't! Or, in a case where there are unaltered pets. We discuss this with them. Sometimes they end up altering and then adopting from us. I once told a person who swore that they were just not aware about Heartworm preventatives and said they would start to give them to do it for a year with their pup and reapply after they have proven themselves. |
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Sorry to have offended you. I did not mean to. I like that you have clarified it. And...honestly, I have NO problem with people buying pups! I don't like to see them buy them from byb'ers and pet stores....but a good breeder is another thing. Yes, it is hard to get yorkies in the Northeast. I lived in NJ for many years and ended up adopting a yorkie mix from a shelter for that reason. I was also turned down by a rescue, so trust me I understand. I was not upset with them as I am sure they had reason. I did not have a fenced in yard and no previous pets to show consistent vetting. I had waited until my son was older and we had the time to properly care for a pup. If the rescues you went to had a policy of fences required, then you would not have been reviewed as an individual; and no, that does not mean you do not provide a wonderful home for your pups. |
Hey Ladyjane, I've got a question. I am posting it here because someone else may be wondering, or I may be alone:D Hypothetically, I find a rescue I trust and submit an application to rescue a dog. Let's say at the time they do not have a dog that I am approved for becasue thier dogs to not match my home. Will rescues continue considering me or will I be denied and that's it? (Does that make sense?:confused:) I mean if I wanted to rescue and already had one Yorkie, but maybe the rescue only has dogs that need to be an only, or dogs with health problems I am unable to take care of financially, is it possible that I may be matched with a rescue later? I don't know if I am making any sense:confused::rolleyes: |
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We hate to lose good applicants....the pups need them! |
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I guess for me, I do think that rescues should be less stringent than breeders. Here is my thinking: As a breeder, you have the option of bringing more pups into the world or not. If you don't have good buyers, you don't have to breed. You can make sure that every pup gets a perfect home. In the case of rescues, it's more of a triage situation. Even though I think the rescue I volunteer at is very nice, it is still somewhat stressful for the dogs to live in a place with other strange dogs nearby they may not like, and have very limited contact with. Everyone has a nice little room with their own toys, bedding, food, etc, and they get walked a minimum of 100 minutes / day - but it's still hard for the dogs to be handled by a lot of strangers, and also just to have prospective adopters looking into their runs all day. A foster situation is generally not ideal either. And of course, there are literally millions of other dogs waiting to take their place and get rescued as well. So in the case of a rescued dog, I think the criteria for a home should go from "it must be perfect" to "this will probably be a great place." Not that rescues should throw dogs at whoever happens to walk in, that would not be right either. But a rescue is trying to make the best of a bad situation, rather than create a perfect match. IMO. Also, I know from having way more interview experience than I care to, you can have a good screening process, and you can have a very stringent one - one doesn't necessarily imply the other. You can make it impossible for your dogs to get adopted by requiring the wrong things. |
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I have too many dogs as it is :rolleyes:, however if the decision was to come up I might consider being a foster home and help with the rehoming process. |
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Sure, there are more needing rescue. I save what I can. I won't lower my standards. I believe in quality over quantity. . Rescues are NOT the solution for homeless pups. They can only save so many. While I may make it difficult, it is never impossible to adopt one of my fosters. I make no excuses for making it difficult. My fosters are my babies and when they leave my home I want them to have the best possible chance of never being uprooted again. Often I take in the hard ones .. the ones that really need that extra care...to me that is what rescue is. Cherry picking just to get numbers up is not rescue imho. As to your first comment, I am really shocked. IF breeders were more stringent maybe there would be less need for rescues! |
I'm sitting here with no cable due to a storm and reading - I have to say this is all so interesting. I've learned quite a few things I didn't know & I applaud those involved in helping AND interested in adoption/rescue It must get very hard though to be in charge of who gets a dog and who doesn't - probably as hard as it is to be turned down and more so - without knowing why (though I Do understand the reasoning for that) ... I've wondered why they usually don't tell people why they've been turned down so thanks... it makes total sense. in a way I wish it was easier to place dogs because there ARE great people out there that can provide a good life ....but then again - I understand why they're stringent. No matter what - It's good to know how many are out there making a difference - it must be a full time job just screening people |
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We have a couple of people who review the apps. So many are deleted just at that step. You would be mighty surprised if you saw some of the things people tell us. Mind boggling. One that stands out in my mind (and I do believe the person was serious) was a person who had two other dogs that slept under their mobile home. They went on to say that they provided a nice bed of hay for them.) I have been bathing pups this evening and Matty was running around barking. I should have known why. He hates storms! I had NO idea it was storming until I read this. DUH Does not seem so bad here, though. Gotta go check weather.com to see where it is going. |
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