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Wylie's Mom 03-04-2009 11:21 AM
Nightline Tonight: Inside Primate Research Labs
 
Got this via email:

Tonight, go inside a research facility with an undercover investigator for The Humane Society of the United States. For nine months, she investigated the wretched existence of chimpanzees and other primates who are warehoused or used for research in laboratories at a cost of millions to taxpayers.

In a special in-depth report scheduled to air tonight at 11:35 p.m. EST on ABC News: Nightline, you'll see for yourself the dismal lives of chimpanzees held for research -- including some who were taken from their mothers as infants in the wild and have lived virtually their entire lives behind bars.

Please tune in tonight to ABC News: Nightline, and let your friends and family know about the broadcast, too. Then watch your email inbox tomorrow to join the campaign to help ensure these animals are retired to the sanctuaries they deserve.

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Here is a "sneak peek" from abc news - which includes and article and a video. The video is short - it has some disturbing footage, but relatively speaking - it was easier to watch than many of the recent puppy mill videos.

Wylie's Mom 03-04-2009 11:31 AM
Wow...I just read the entire article -- some of these chimpanzees have been in these labs for more than FORTY YEARS! :( :( :(

bchgirl 03-04-2009 11:35 AM
I do not advocate animal cruelty unfortunately until they come with another method..animal testing is a necessary evil.

Anyone whose child has survived leukemia has animal testing to thank.

Wylie's Mom 03-04-2009 11:44 AM
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Originally Posted by bchgirl (Post 2501378)
I do not advocate animal cruelty unfortunately until they come with another method..animal testing is a necessary evil.

Anyone whose child has survived leukemia has animal testing to thank.
I don't disagree with you, however, animal testing and animal cruelty does *not* need to go hand-in-hand.

From the article: "The Federal Animal Welfare Act, the law designed to protect these primates, requires labs to ensure that procedures avoid or minimize distress or pain. The law also requires that animals be handled with proper care."

Ellie May 03-04-2009 12:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Wylie's Mom (Post 2501399)
I don't disagree with you, however, animal testing and animal cruelty does *not* need to go hand-in-hand.

From the article: "The Federal Animal Welfare Act, the law designed to protect these primates, requires labs to ensure that procedures avoid or minimize distress or pain. The law also requires that animals be handled with proper care."
Exactly.
Animal testing is one thing. Forcing animals to go through continual and unnecessary pain and stress is another.

txrosegirl 03-04-2009 12:57 PM
:( awwww ever since i was young and saw project x (with matthew broderick) i cringe when i hear about animals (esp. chimpanzees and primates) being used in animal testing...i cried so hard when i saw that movie

however i do agree with the others that animal testing has helped mankind with some major diseases and illnesses :( it is a double edged sword :(

Wylie's Mom 03-04-2009 02:03 PM
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Originally Posted by txrosegirl (Post 2501563)
i do agree with the others that animal testing has helped mankind with some major diseases and illnesses
I don't disagree with this -- but like I said above, animal testing and animal cruelty don't have to go hand-in-hand. :thumbdown

yorkiekist 03-04-2009 02:19 PM
I am sure that if HSUS is behind this film, it will be slanted. Animal research is necessary although I would prefer prisoners/criminals should be used for this. I dont like to see cruelty, but these facilities are inspected regularly. There is a standard that these facilities must conform to or they will be fined and even shut down.

chachi 03-04-2009 02:22 PM
Ill be watching it

Wylie's Mom 03-04-2009 02:35 PM
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Originally Posted by yorkiekist (Post 2501732)
I am sure that if HSUS is behind this film, it will be slanted. Animal research is necessary although I would prefer prisoners/criminals should be used for this. I dont like to see cruelty, but these facilities are inspected regularly. There is a standard that these facilities must conform to or they will be fined and even shut down.
Maybe read the article. There is confirmation completely outside of the HSUS - and this lab is *not* conforming to the expected practices.

Just bc places, labs or puppy mills, are supposed to be inspected and supposed to be following laws - it does not mean that they are.

This thread is not for arguing about the HSUS, btw.

dogears 03-04-2009 03:39 PM
There just need to standards, very strict standards about how the animals are treated. Because without animal trials there would be alot of treatments we would not have.

When I was in college on the weekend I feed the animals and cleaned up at a research lab, needless to say the job did not last that long. I just could not deal with rabbits the size of cats, and the deal breaker was me having to fill in one weekend on the side that housed the dogs. Just seeing this one beagle that was so terrified broke my heart. I never did know what kind of experiments they did, because I didn't want to know.

LolaLove 03-04-2009 03:51 PM
I am so interested in these types of shows, but they break my heart, and are very difficult to watch. Unfortunately, it is reality. I wish I could tune in tonight but I have school, but I told my boyfriend to Tivo it :D Thanks for the posting!

Nancy1999 03-04-2009 04:16 PM
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Originally Posted by LolaLove (Post 2501895)
I am so interested in these types of shows, but they break my heart, and are very difficult to watch. Unfortunately, it is reality. I wish I could tune in tonight but I have school, but I told my boyfriend to Tivo it :D Thanks for the posting!
Yeah, I feel the same way, it's just so depressing to see this sort of thing. I too believe animal testing is needed, but should only be done under the most humane conditions possible. Even the Oprah puppymill show was too hard for me, and I had to watch it little bits at a time.

Wylie's Mom 03-04-2009 04:22 PM
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Originally Posted by dogears (Post 2501875)
There just need to standards, very strict standards about how the animals are treated. Because without animal trials there would be alot of treatments we would not have.
Yep, I agree about tough standards. There is just no need for cruelty. I mean really, subjects under that much duress shouldn't be considered reliable anyway...I mean, unless they're testing anxiety drugs, I guess. I'm so sorry for what you went through at that lab! :(

Quote:
Originally Posted by LolaLove (Post 2501895)
I am so interested in these types of shows, but they break my heart, and are very difficult to watch. Unfortunately, it is reality. I wish I could tune in tonight but I have school, but I told my boyfriend to Tivo it :D Thanks for the posting!
I feel the same way! They are super tough to watch and they stay with you forever.

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Originally Posted by Nancy1999 (Post 2501942)
Yeah, I feel the same way, it's just so depressing to see this sort of thing. I too believe animal testing is needed, but should only be done under the most humane conditions possible. Even the Oprah puppymill show was too hard for me, and I had to watch it little bits at a time.
I agree, I feel very helpless after watching things like this and it sticks to my ribs. I think I cried throughout most of that Oprah show. :(

Nancy1999 03-04-2009 04:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Wylie's Mom (Post 2501948)
Yep, I agree about tough standards. There is just no need for cruelty. I mean really, subjects under that much duress shouldn't be considered reliable anyway...I mean, unless they're testing anxiety drugs, I guess. I'm so sorry for what you went through at that lab! :(



I feel the same way! They are super tough to watch and they stay with you forever.



I agree, I feel very helpless after watching things like this and it sticks to my ribs. I think I cried throughout most of that Oprah show. :(

Me too, sobbed and sobbed. Then I had to edit it because someone wanted a copy of it, I was drained for days after. Maybe the show will have some suggestions on what we can do.


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