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RebelBelle 11-05-2008 08:31 AM
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Originally Posted by BamaFan121s (Post 2316471)
To you it was civil, to others, not so much. Apparently you missed all the name calling...lucky you.
I agree. I don't think that throwing around accusations of racism and/or stupidity is civil.

BamaFan121s 11-05-2008 08:31 AM
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Originally Posted by MeganS (Post 2316480)
I didn't see any name calling, but I may have missed it.
LOL...lucky you too.;)
I actually got a PM from someone that said they would not be back on this forum because of that thread...hopefully she will reconsider. :(

MeganS 11-05-2008 08:51 AM
That is very unfortunate and it is totally uncalled for that someone was hurt like that. I hope she reconsiders.

But my point is, politics is a tough game. Though they shouldn't, finger pointing and name calling come with it. I wish that there could be a way that we could respectfully debate politics, because it's something I really love doing. No one should be forced to see a debate they don't want to talk about. I (and many others) want to talk about what's going on in my country, and I'd like to talk about it with people I respect - the folks on YT. The way I see it, if they have a right to NOT talk about it, don't I have a right TO talk about it? Both sides can be accomodated, IMO. :)

chachi 11-05-2008 08:53 AM
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Originally Posted by MeganS (Post 2316517)
That is very unfortunate and it is totally uncalled for that someone was hurt like that. I hope she reconsiders.

But my point is, politics is a tough game. Though they shouldn't, finger pointing and name calling come with it. I wish that there could be a way that we could respectfully debate politics, because it's something I really love doing. No one should be forced to see a debate they don't want to talk about. I (and many others) want to talk about what's going on in my country, and I'd like to talk about it with people I respect - the folks on YT. The way I see it, if they have a right to NOT talk about it, don't I have a right TO talk about it? Both sides can be accomodated, IMO. :)
I agree!!!!

BamaFan121s 11-05-2008 09:00 AM
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Originally Posted by MeganS (Post 2316517)
But my point is, politics is a tough game. I wish that there could be a way that we could respectfully debate politics, because it's something I really love doing. No one should be forced to see a debate they don't want to talk about.
Yes, you are right...it is a very tough came. And people are not forced to see a debate they don't want to talk about because it isn't allowed here. :thumbup: (Kind of a circular argument there.) For those who do desperately want to discuss it, find a place to do it.
I see your point though Megan, I really do. I guess there is no way to please everyone. At which point in time it becomes an issue here or anywhere else, I guess that it when members have to determine if they still wish to be members or if it is time to take a break from the forum for a while--and I think we all have a good general idea of when that would be the best. ;)

celstu1 11-05-2008 09:15 AM
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Originally Posted by BamaFan121s (Post 2316482)
LOL...lucky you too.;)
I actually got a PM from someone that said they would not be back on this forum because of that thread...hopefully she will reconsider. :(
Sorry, but that is ridiculous. It was a thread. Some people should put more passion into their life and less into an ONLINE FORUM (to get so worked up over soemone whom you don't even know personally is a shame). There is and will ALWAYS be someone(s) who feathers are going to be ruffled. People take offense to things too easily sometimes. I almost think its an excuse to hide behind. Someone brings up a point and the other person has no arguement so they claim "offensive".

You are right that name calling is inappropriate and VERY immature. Other than that, a civilized discussion about our nation and all the events surrounding it should be allowed and 'voilaters' who truely ARE offensive (name calling, swearing, etc...) should be warned by admin.

RESPECT. That is the only rule needed when dealing with a volatile situation. RESPECT yourself and RESPECT others, its simple 3rd grade material, due onto others as you would want done onto you.

IndianaGirl 11-05-2008 09:19 AM
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Originally Posted by celstu1 (Post 2316566)
Sorry, but that is ridiculous. It was a thread. Some people should put more passion into their life and less into an ONLINE FORUM (to get so worked up over soemone whom you don't even know personally is a shame). There is and will ALWAYS be someone(s) who feathers are going to be ruffled. People take offense to things too easily sometimes. I almost think its an excuse to hide behind. Someone brings up a point and the other person has no arguement so they claim "offensive".

You are right that name calling is inappropriate and VERY immature. Other than that, a civilized discussion about our nation and all the events surrounding it should be allowed and 'voilaters' who truely ARE offensive (name calling, swearing, etc...) should be warned by admin.

RESPECT. That is the only rule needed when dealing with a volatile situation. RESPECT yourself and RESPECT others, its simple 3rd grade material, due onto others as you would want done onto you.
:goodpost: :thumbup:

BamaFan121s 11-05-2008 09:23 AM
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Originally Posted by celstu1 (Post 2316566)
Sorry, but that is ridiculous. It was a thread. Some people should put more passion into their life and less into an ONLINE FORUM (to get so worked up over soemone whom you don't even know personally is a shame). There is and will ALWAYS be someone(s) who feathers are going to be ruffled. People take offense to things too easily sometimes. I almost think its an excuse to hide behind. Someone brings up a point and the other person has no arguement so they claim "offensive".
Hey, I actually agree with you. I get sick of people not having thick enough skin too...but if the cry of "offensive" works in other topics here on YT, then it should apply here too, right?

In any case, you said the key words..."It WAS a thread." ;) Clearly one that came with alot of strong emotion, so only "right" thing to do is treat it as any other and get rid of it.

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Originally Posted by celstu1 (Post 2316566)
It was a thread. Some people should put more passion into their life and less into an ONLINE FORUM (to get so worked up over soemone whom you don't even know personally is a shame).
LOL...you seem to be a bit worked up about it yourself. Pot...kettle...

IndianaGirl 11-05-2008 09:29 AM
The person being "offended" doesn't need to keep torturing themselves by coming back on the thread that is causing them to feel that way? Its like TV being offensive, turn the darn channel! But give people a chance to make the choice. I really wanted to have a healthy discussion like what was happening last night, but there is someone who will be offended or offensive, so why not just ignore the thread?

celstu1 11-05-2008 09:34 AM
naw.. Im not worked up about it. I just don't like seeing how worked up other people can get over something just not worth it. Ya know? I could care less... I don't post to threads that bother me. I don't claim to be offended and NEED to say Im offended. If something did offend me I don't say anything, not worth my time. I get off the computer and do something. This place should be fun and should be a place to gain knowledge on all different types of aspects. A political thread is fun for some, not for others. So if you don't like it and its not fun for you or you have nothing to say that adds value or educates, then don't, please don't, post on it. Save yourself your temper and others your temper. I don't know... maybe I'm wrong.

Honestly I could care less, I just hope someone will read this and think 'yeah I overreacted, or I need to chill out on some things or not post to others things.' Then it would be calm and respectful when politics or other hot button topics come up. I love to read others points of view. I know who I voted for. I respect those who voted the opposite. I love to hear WHY and ask questions.

BamaFan121s 11-05-2008 09:37 AM
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Originally Posted by IndianaGirl (Post 2316586)
The person being "offended" doesn't need to keep torturing themselves by coming back on the thread that is causing them to feel that way? why not just ignore the thread?
Would YOU be able to so easily ignore a thread if comments were being made about something you personally felt strongly about?
If someone was insulting people from California? Or how about insulting your husband because he is military (isn't he)? Would you be willing to just "not come back on the thread?"

BamaFan121s 11-05-2008 09:40 AM
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Originally Posted by celstu1 (Post 2316596)
naw.. Im not worked up about it. I just don't like seeing how worked up other people can get over something just not worth it. Ya know? I get off the computer and do something.
LOL, yes, I know EXACTLY what you mean. I have found that taking Looooong breaks from the PC can be quite beneficial at times.:thumbup:


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Originally Posted by celstu1 (Post 2316596)
So if you don't like it and its not fun for you or you have nothing to say that adds value or educates, then don't, please don't, post on it. Save yourself your temper and others your temper. I don't know... maybe I'm wrong.
Well luckily in this situation it's not a problem, because the threads aren't allowed. :p

Hugs...I'm with ya!:)

IndianaGirl 11-05-2008 09:41 AM
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Originally Posted by BamaFan121s (Post 2316600)
Would YOU be able to so easily ignore a thread if comments were being made about something you personally felt strongly about?
If someone was insulting people from California? Or how about insulting your husband because he is military (isn't he)? Would you be willing to just "not come back on the thread?"
I like your new avatar btw :)

Personally speaking for myself, I can turn the channel so to speak. I have gotten upset on a couple threads here. One of them, I almost got suspended. But I think Admin was being a bit hasty with their judgement. I am not one to cuss or belittle anyone. A debate can get heated, but can be educational at the same time. I think Admin should step in if it gets out of hand, but not for common discussion.

BamaFan121s 11-05-2008 09:44 AM
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Originally Posted by IndianaGirl (Post 2316605)
I like your new avatar btw :)
It was time for "change." :D (Sorry, couldn't resist.) I figured I may as well flaunt it while we are on top.

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Originally Posted by IndianaGirl (Post 2316605)
Personally speaking for myself, I can turn the channel so to speak. I have gotten upset on a couple threads here. One of them, I almost got suspended. But I think Admin was being a bit hasty with their judgement. I am not one to cuss or belittle anyone. A debate can get heated, but can be educational at the same time. I think Admin should step in if it gets out of hand, but not for common discussion.
Haaaaaalleluja! Common ground! Agreed!

IndianaGirl 11-05-2008 09:45 AM
A good example:
There is a new thread "How many hunters do we have on YT"

I WILL NOT GO NEAR THAT THREAD....NOT EVEN TAKE A PEEK :eek:


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