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Old 09-24-2008, 10:37 AM   #16
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After PETA started sending body bags to people who bought from breeders instead of rescuing, nothing shocks me with them.

I really don't understand how they can get away with that.
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I'm just sitting here wondering what the hek are the daily pressures of a cow are anyways? I mean.....is there really alot of pressure on deciding whether to sit in the shade or the sun that day? Or should i consider a short moo? rather than a long moooooooooooooooo? Sometimes i wonder if PETA actually realizes how ridiculous they sound?
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After PETA started sending body bags to people who bought from breeders instead of rescuing
LOL...that's a new one on me. Glad to see they are putting their donations and funds raised to good use...NOT.
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I'm just sitting here wondering what the hek are the daily pressures of a cow are anyways? I mean.....is there really alot of pressure on deciding whether to sit in the shade or the sun that day? Or should i consider a short moo? rather than a long moooooooooooooooo? Sometimes i wonder if PETA actually realizes how ridiculous they sound?
Not exactly. Factory Farming | Farm Sanctuary

Traditional small dairies, located primarily in the Northeast and Midwest, are going out of business. They are being replaced by intensive 'dry lot' dairies, which are typically located in the Southwest U.S.

Regardless of where they live, however, all dairy cows must give birth in order to begin producing milk. Today, dairy cows are forced to have a calf every year. Like human beings, cows have a nine-month gestation period, and so giving birth every twelve months is physically demanding. The cows are also artificially re-impregnated while they are still lactating from their previous birthing, so their bodies are still producing milk during seven months of their nine-month pregnancy. With genetic manipulation and intensive production technologies, it is common for modern dairy cows to produce 100 pounds of milk a day — ten times more than they would produce naturally. As a result, the cows' bodies are under constant stress, and they are at risk for numerous health problems.


The link wil explain to you exactly what the "stresses" are if anyone is interested. I'm personally not interested in drinking a mother's milk that is by design intended to turn an 80 pound calf into a 2000 pound cow within 2 year.
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In case anyone is interested in reading the article, here it is:

PETA Urges Ben & Jerry's To Use Human Milk - News Story - WPTZ Plattsburgh

PETA Urges Ben & Jerry's To Use Human Milk

WATERBURY, Vt. -- People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals sent a letter to Ben Cohen and Jerry Greenfield, cofounders of Ben & Jerry's Homemade Inc., urging them to replace cow's milk they use in their ice cream products with human breast milk, according to a statement recently released by a PETA spokeswoman.

"PETA's request comes in the wake of news reports that a Swiss restaurant owner will begin purchasing breast milk from nursing mothers and substituting breast milk for 75 percent of the cow's milk in the food he serves," the statement says.

PETA officials say a move to human breast milk would lessen the suffering of dairy cows and their babies on factory farms and benefit human health.

"The fact that human adults consume huge quantities of dairy products made from milk that was meant for a baby cow just doesn't make sense," says PETA Executive Vice President Tracy Reiman. "Everyone knows that 'the breast is best,' so Ben & Jerry's could do consumers and cows a big favor by making the switch to breast milk."

"We applaud PETA's novel approach to bringing attention to an issue, but we believe a mother's milk is best used for her child," said a spokesperson for Ben and Jerry's.

Read PETA's letter to Ben Cohen and Jerry Greenfield

September 23, 2008

Ben Cohen and Jerry Greenfield, Cofounders
Ben & Jerry's Homemade Inc.

Dear Mr. Cohen and Mr. Greenfield,

On behalf of PETA and our more than 2 million members and supporters, I'd like to bring your attention to an innovative new idea from Switzerland that would bring a unique twist to Ben and Jerry's.

Storchen restaurant is set to unveil a menu that includes soups, stews, and sauces made with at least 75 percent breast milk procured from human donors who are paid in exchange for their milk. If Ben and Jerry's replaced the cow's milk in its ice cream with breast milk, your customers-and cows-would reap the benefits.

Using cow's milk for your ice cream is a hazard to your customer's health. Dairy products have been linked to juvenile diabetes, allergies, constipation, obesity, and prostate and ovarian cancer. The late Dr. Benjamin Spock, America's leading authority on child care, spoke out against feeding cow's milk to children, saying it may play a role in anemia, allergies, and juvenile diabetes and in the long term, will set kids up for obesity and heart disease-America's number one cause of death.

Animals will also benefit from the switch to breast milk. Like all mammals, cows only produce milk during and after pregnancy, so to be able to constantly milk them, cows are forcefully impregnated every nine months. After several years of living in filthy conditions and being forced to produce 10 times more milk than they would naturally, their exhausted bodies are turned into hamburgers or ground up for soup.

And of course, the veal industry could not survive without the dairy industry. Because male calves can't produce milk, dairy farmers take them from their mothers immediately after birth and sell them to veal farms, where they endure 14 to17 weeks of torment chained inside a crate so small that they can't even turn around.

The breast is best! Won't you give cows and their babies a break and our health a boost by switching from cow's milk to breast milk in Ben and Jerry's ice cream? Thank you for your consideration.

Sincerely,

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Now I'll never look at B&J's the same way ever again.
LOL, I agree. Icky.

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I'm just sitting here wondering what the hek are the daily pressures of a cow are anyways? I mean.....is there really alot of pressure on deciding whether to sit in the shade or the sun that day? Or should i consider a short moo? rather than a long moooooooooooooooo? Sometimes i wonder if PETA actually realizes how ridiculous they sound?
If you really think cows live like that, you've seen too many Real California Milk/Cheese commercials.
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I'm just sitting here wondering what the hek are the daily pressures of a cow are anyways? I mean.....is there really alot of pressure on deciding whether to sit in the shade or the sun that day? Or should i consider a short moo? rather than a long moooooooooooooooo? Sometimes i wonder if PETA actually realizes how ridiculous they sound?
Maybe this video will tell you the stress that the cows go through.
Gallery of Factory Farming Photos and Videos
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Not exactly. Factory Farming | Farm Sanctuary

Traditional small dairies, located primarily in the Northeast and Midwest, are going out of business. They are being replaced by intensive 'dry lot' dairies, which are typically located in the Southwest U.S.

Regardless of where they live, however, all dairy cows must give birth in order to begin producing milk. Today, dairy cows are forced to have a calf every year. Like human beings, cows have a nine-month gestation period, and so giving birth every twelve months is physically demanding. The cows are also artificially re-impregnated while they are still lactating from their previous birthing, so their bodies are still producing milk during seven months of their nine-month pregnancy. With genetic manipulation and intensive production technologies, it is common for modern dairy cows to produce 100 pounds of milk a day — ten times more than they would produce naturally. As a result, the cows' bodies are under constant stress, and they are at risk for numerous health problems.


The link wil explain to you exactly what the "stresses" are if anyone is interested. I'm personally not interested in drinking a mother's milk that is by design intended to turn an 80 pound calf into a 2000 pound cow within 2 year.
Good post. While I do NOT want to eat or drink anything that contains breast milk (ewww gross!), I can see why PETA is unhappy about the way cows are treated and the environment they are kept in. I posted the whole article if you want to read it.
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Good post. While I do NOT want to eat or drink anything that contains breast milk (ewww gross!), I can see why PETA is unhappy about the way cows are treated and the environment they are kept in. I posted the whole article if you want to read it.
Just read it. Thanks for posting it.
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I'm personally not interested in drinking a mother's milk that is by design intended to turn an 80 pound calf into a 2000 pound cow within 2 year.
Well that explains why B&J is so fattening!

Again, there is a difference between supporting a cause and being completely irrational. If the campaign was in an effort to improve the quality of life for the cows, I could understand, but it's not. If the cows were treated to human conditions, sang a lullaby and tucked into bed every night, there would be a reason dreamed up why that was wrong too.

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Not exactly. Factory Farming | Farm Sanctuary

Traditional small dairies, located primarily in the Northeast and Midwest, are going out of business. They are being replaced by intensive 'dry lot' dairies, which are typically located in the Southwest U.S.

Regardless of where they live, however, all dairy cows must give birth in order to begin producing milk. Today, dairy cows are forced to have a calf every year. Like human beings, cows have a nine-month gestation period, and so giving birth every twelve months is physically demanding. The cows are also artificially re-impregnated while they are still lactating from their previous birthing, so their bodies are still producing milk during seven months of their nine-month pregnancy. With genetic manipulation and intensive production technologies, it is common for modern dairy cows to produce 100 pounds of milk a day — ten times more than they would produce naturally. As a result, the cows' bodies are under constant stress, and they are at risk for numerous health problems.


The link wil explain to you exactly what the "stresses" are if anyone is interested. I'm personally not interested in drinking a mother's milk that is by design intended to turn an 80 pound calf into a 2000 pound cow within 2 year.
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Peta wrote Ben and Jerrys ice cream company that the cows are undr so much pressure to produce milk that they need to substitute HUMAN milk for cows milk!!!!

I can see the help wanted signs now!!!!

Does Peta have nothing better to do????
They do quite a bit- fortunately they're good multi-taskers.
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I don't know about you but they sure do get a lot more done than I do.
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Well that explains why B&J is so fattening!

Again, there is a difference between supporting a cause and being completely irrational. If the campaign was in an effort to improve the quality of life for the cows, I could understand, but it's not. If the cows were treated to human conditions, sang a lullaby and tucked into bed every night, there would be a reason dreamed up why that was wrong too.

It's simply bringing awareness to the issue. It seems like it really needed to be done too considering based on this thread, some people actually think dairy cows are lazing about in beautiful pastures all day without a care in the world.
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They do quite a bit- fortunately they're good multi-taskers.
If you're interested in how they spend their time:
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About PETA >> Victories

I don't know about you but they sure do get a lot more done than I do.

It's too bad that the "good deeds" they do are often overshadowed by some of their radical, insane antics.

And for what it's worth, I don't think that anyone seriously believes that dairy cows live in the lap of luxury. I think it was more a play on the way the article was worded...that cows are "stressed."

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