So I just watched the CNN video. Do you think the baby was left overnight in the swing (it was morning in the video), passed away through the night for whatever reason, and then the puppy's play drive kicked in?? I have had four lab pups through my life and I have seen them demolish dolls, teddy bears, and anything else we left out as kids. I can't imagine that puppy killing the child.... And I am sorry but are you freaking serious????? Spay and neuter your pets??????? That puppy was six freaking weeks old. Good lord.

Also, I know this is horrible speculation but I work in law enforcement (felony probation and parole) and I can pick people out ten miles away who use. That's all I am going to say about that....

Exactly my thoughts too....

I do not understand why the puppy was not quarantined for rabies. In Virginia it would have been quarantined for 10 days or pts and tested. I do not believe it had rabies but I think that is strange.

I do not believe a 6 week old puppy could have killed a baby in a swing. He could not reach the baby. The swing would of had to be knocked over. If the dog did it I think the pug was in on it. I do not think the puppy could have done it by himself. And why were the cats taken?

I do not believe the parents did not hear anything unless they were asleep or passed out. Unless the baby was crying and they turned the music up so they didn't have to hear them. Whatever happened I think they should be charged with neglect. I know they are young, but I was married at 16 and had my first son at 17 and I knew not to leave a baby unattentended. Maybe the grandmother wasn't a good parent either.

Whatever happened an innocent baby and puppy lost their lives and it was so unnecessary! I cannot imagine how the baby suffered and I feel very sorry for the emts and police that had to work the scene.

mmmhmmmmm agreed

A few more details

Posted: July 29, 2008 11:03 AM

Updated: July 29, 2008 04:20 PM


TULSA, Okla. - Police have released the name of the baby who they say was mauled to death by a puppy on Monday morning. The victim was identified as two-month old Zane Alen Earles.

The black Labrador Retriever puppy suspected of killing the baby boy was euthanized at the Tulsa Animal Shelter on Monday at the request of police.

Police and animal shelter staff took photographs of the puppy but it's not clear if officials also took bite impressions.

A pug and two cats were also removed from the home. They're being held at the Tulsa Animal Shelter at 3031 N. Erie Avenue.

EMSA was called to a home near Evanston and 102nd Place in Tulsa on Monday morning. Paramedics said the baby boy was dead when they arrived. Tulsa Police were then called to the scene.

Investigators say the baby's mother and grandmother were at home when the mauling took place. The baby's father had left for work at 8:00 on Monday morning. Police tell the News On 6 that the baby's grandfather had placed the child in the swing and then left the home around 8:30 a.m.

Officers say the infant was left unattended in the swing but was not closed in a room with the dog.

The Tulsa County Medical Examiner says the cause of death is still pending.

yeah pending.....I think someone jumped the gun on blaming the pup.

My thoughts exactly. I don't think a 6 week old puppy can do that..

What a horrible horrible thing :(.

It just makes me sick that parents, if you can even call them that would leave their child unattended and how on earth was that poor baby mauled to death while TWO adults were home!?

It makes no sense to me :(

And bless that poor puppy, I really don't think it was a vicious attack on it's part either :(

Too horrible to imagine...my heart is breaking!

I could be wrong but I think in Oklahoma we do not hold the dogs they are destroyed to find evidence of rabies... when a dog bites a person and the police get involved I think the dog is almost always put to sleep.

As for if the baby was dead before or after the dog attack, I am sure the baby was alive when the dog bit him, postmortem trauma does not bleed as the heart is no longer pumping the blood simple congeals in the body.

They have also released this evening that the father of the baby,and the grandfather of the baby were both not in the house,and the child was left unattended for 1.5 hours.
Very sad story

How terribly tragic.

That is a small pup. If this is all true the puppy must have thought the infant was a toy, and jumped on the baby. The pup must have bit this infant on the neck, or head.
The adults need to be hed responsible for leaving a tiny infant unattended . Who knows what they were doing? If they had not left their baby for so long then this would have never occured. I blame them! :mad:

There are new details on how police are investigating the death of Zane Earles. The News On 6's Emory Bryan reports he's the little boy who died Monday after he was bitten multiple times by a small dog.

Tulsa Police Child Crisis detectives are handling the case and while they're waiting on a report from the medical examiner, they are done with the examination of the dog that was involved. That part of the case, regarding the handling of the dog, has attracted a lot of interest.

Tulsa Police continue to investigate the death of a two-month-old little boy who they say was killed by a family pet, a black lab puppy.

As word of the case has spread, hundreds of people have expressed sympathy to the family on-line, while at the same time questioning why the dog involved was immediately euthanized.

"The lab would not have been available for adoption considering the circumstances and the decision to euthanize was made immediately," said Jean Letcher with the Animal Welfare Shelter.

The policy at the shelter comes from a city ordinance which requires any animal that bites a person to be euthanized.

In this case, the need to examine the stomach contents and check the brain for rabies left no other choice.

"We know the animal involved did bite the child and we could not take a chance of that happening in another family. No matter how calm or sweet the animal appeared, we just couldn't take that chance," said Jean Letcher with the Animal Welfare Shelter.

While some have questioned why the lab puppy in this case was euthanized, the reality is that many more labs come through the shelter and are euthanized because no one stepped forward to adopt them.

Many people have questioned whether a puppy not much older than the one involved could cause injuries that would kill a child. Tulsa Police say the examination left no doubt that the child's severe injuries involved the black lab that was euthanized.

"We are certain the lab was involved," said Jean Letcher with the Animal Welfare Shelter.

Services for the little boy who was killed are being handled by a south Tulsa funeral home, and they will be private, for family only.

Is no one in the area questioning these people about leaving a baby alone with 2 dogs?? :confused::confused: They are only offering sympathy at their loss??

Thanks for the update

yeah.. i agree!

such a sad story.. this poor baby boy had to die because his parents/grandparents should've be there to watch over him!..and weren't! like many mentioned before.. babies shouldn't be left unattended for ANY amount of time.. but it is SO obvious that it wasn't just a quick 'run' to the other room to grab something.. :rolleyes: this baby was left alone for a long period of time.. and was not even close enough to at least HEAR he was ok.. :eek: (someone mentioned the grandpa put the baby in the swing when he left at 8:30am and another person had said the baby was alone for 1.5 hours!! are you freakin' kidding me!!!!! :confused:)

i most definitely blame the people that were supposed to be watching him.. and sad to say it was his mom/gma!! :mad: i honestly can't believe that they would leave the baby and do whatever they were doing while the baby was all alone in a swing that is meant to always be fully supervised and with 2 dogs (1 being a puppy who doesn't even know where to go to the bathroom, let alone.. what a baby is!!!!:()

and one other thing i just CAN'T understand.. why are they ALWAYS so quick to euthanize!?!?! :confused: i understand the "laws" and if a dog bites a human they are to be put down..:rolleyes::thumbdown BUT i don't understand why they wouldn't use the dog as part of the investigation.. testing his temperament, etc. (what if the dog was not given attention.. what if.. what if.. there are SO many things that could be the case, in this situation.. and looking further into the dogs personality, how he reacts to certain circumstances, etc. could probably say ALOT for the situation and most likely lead them to more clues, in furthing the investigation of this tragic case!! i think with MANY laws.. things need to be viewed on a case by case basis.. one dog "attack" can be much different from another dog "attack" but EACH situation needs to be assessed seperately! Plus like mentioned before.. this is a 6week old puppy.. even if they claim they can't 'chance' to put this puppy with another family because it has "mauled".. why not make it a special circumstance and if the temperament is ok.. and all seems well-place the poor doggie in a no-child home!!!

so many questions.. and i know alot is all speculation until the full results come back.. BUT it isn't rocket science to figure out that the baby should NOT have been left alone for any amount of time.. let alone over an HOUR!!!! :eek:(why not run some errands, get your grocery shopping done?? ..sounds horrible.. but might as well! it was basically like the baby was left alone anyway..:rolleyes: so sad.. poor baby.. RIP!

This is a real sad story and I think there is something fishy about it ....:confused:

A lot of you on here judge quick ..... how many times have you left your Baby UNATTENDED sleeping in the Cripe ..... to go take trash out or check the mail or go the the potty ???? Things happen in a split second and NOBODY is perfect ..... WHO watches his kid 24/7 ???? Please People .....

Yeah ..... I agree the dogs should have NEVER been with the Baby alone in a room ..... but guess what .... no matter how sweet the dog is or how long he has been in the Family ..... A DOG IS A DOG ... and they will turn on you no matter what Breed or Size .....

I am NOT justifying what they did ..... I AM NOT ..... clearly it was wrong and the baby and the dog had to die ..... :( ....

i completely understand what you are saying.. but like i said before-it was obviously NOT real quick.. the baby was left unattended for a LONG period of time(long enough to have this happen.. and not in close enough proximity to at least hear screaming/crying!? ..that is what i just don't understand!! trust me.. i completely get that things happen in a split second and you really don't know someone's situation, until you are in their shoes.. BUT this tragic story is just too fishy.. and has had certain things happen that show the people watching the baby clearly made a mistake..(but it wasn't a quick run in the other room.. it was a leave the baby for a long span of time.. ya know?) once again, i totally understand what you are saying..;) and i completely agree that accidents do happen.. They happen so quickly & hindsight is always 20/20.. BUT this is a situation where it has been shown to police that the baby wasn't being watched over and hadn't been for at least an hour! weird situation.. & so sad! :(

:eek: ....... oh no please don't think I was saying this to you ....

... I agree you can't leave a baby that long by itself with or without dogs ..... I seen some posts on here that made my hair stand up straight .....

This is sad Story ... really sad .....:( ... and fishy !!! And I am sure we will never know what really happend .....

You're right that when my daughter was a baby I did leave her alone- not in a swing but of course in her crib but she was NEVER EVER unattended. She was always within hearing distance or with a baby monitor. You can't leave infants unattended- certainly not long enough that a dog could attack and kill it without you ever hearing a thing. I don't know what happened but what ever it was is the mother and/or grandmother's fault.

A good (even just decent) parent takes every measure they can to insure their child's saftey. Leaving a 2 mont old alone in a swing with dogs where nobody can even hear him cry is really unexcusable.

I don't think anyone was quick to judge. They didn't leave this baby unattended two minutes to take the trash out. They left the baby for an hour and a half. Sorry, but that to me consitutes BAD PARENTS. I do not know any (thank God) that would leave their two month old infant alone for well over an hour. Elaine

This story is so fishing I can smell it all the way to NY.

Something else happened and somehow the puppy is being blamed.
People are so sick today I wouldn't be surprised if that baby had
died for some reason and they had the poor puppy do this to
cover them!
There are so many sick people in this world it's scary.
For the authorities to even think of putting down that poor puppy
before a complete investigation is also fishy!
This whole story smells worse than low tide.

I don't want to judge, this is so sad, but do you think they were sleeping?
I am a parent of 2 teenagers- it depends on the age of the child - how long you can leave them alone, at this baby's age it is not acceptable to leave the child alone.

If you would like,and please be advised what is written here is very disheartening you can read on this thread what an insider has told the forum.. now I will not say for 100% this is true but when I asked a friend that would know the truth he did not deny it. So please if it comes to light this is not exactly what happened do not be angry. But I know everyone is looking for answers here...
http://www.topix.net/forum/source/ko...9R9CA8672I/p50

The third post, the quoted area.. please be advised it is very distrubing.

OMG that is horrifying. I know we don't know the facts for sure yet but that scenario makes sense.
If that is true it is heartless that the puppy was put down.:(

[QUOTE=Wigfur;2149958]If you would like,and please be advised what is written here is very disheartening you can read on this thread what an insider has told the forum.. now I will not say for 100% this is true but when I asked a friend that would know the truth he did not deny it. So please if it comes to light this is not exactly what happened do not be angry. But I know everyone is looking for answers here...
UPDATE: Baby Killed By Family Puppy - Topix

The third post, the quoted area.. please be advised it is very distrubing

All I have to say is oh my
, this is such a sad story.

WOW this is complete insanity IMO.

And i read back where someone said they dont feel bad for the parents at all NEITHER DO I so put me on the heartless list....

Here what I think happened
Baby left unattended for OVER an hour in a swing prolly screaming. Lab tried his heart out to get the baby out of the swing and help it inadvertantly killing him. its all just a shame.

Now an innocent puppy and baby have lost their lives while the parents are fine scott free!!! Sickening.

Some "parents" really should be spayed/neutered! :mad:

I totaly agree