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nvnvgirl 03-30-2008 11:24 AM

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Originally Posted by MeganS (Post 1883812)
I'll say what I think the best idea is...and risk the heat that its sure to bring on.

Find her another home. I'm serious. You haven't done anything wrong, she hasn't done anything wrong. My feelings are that she has more energy than you can handle, and both of you would probably be better off if she went to someone who knows how to handle a dog like this. I'd suggest that you try to find a trainer or vet to take her in.

I just don't know what else can be done in that kind of situation. Best of luck to you, though!


I agree totally with Megan. I had a LARGE german shepherd years ago....by "having" it, I mean that my sister told me about this GS "puppy" that needed a home while I was at my mom's. At the time, my ex-dh and I lived in a small rental and there was virtually no backyard. I told my sister I wish I could take it, but I couldn't. My mom piped up with "Well, you could keep it here until you guys find a bigger place with a yard"....my mom had a small GS female at the time. So I said "sure"....so basically, it lived with my Mom... the dog turned out to be about 30" tall and very very big!

Anyway, my mom started saying that "my" dog would run along the fenceline all night long (the back of her house was on a busy main street), and "made" her dog do the same thing, and her dog was rapidly losing weight. That was one issue. So my mom started putting "my" dog into the garage at night so they couldn't do that...well, the dog ate a hole in the garage wall and got out anyway......
My mom found a man who had wanted a GS for a long time, he had lots of land for it to run on and he just adored the dog and he took it with him everywhere......so, it's not b/c it's a bad dog, it's just not right for you.

I honestly can understand what you've been going thru though, I had a parrot who was as destructive, and even though I never answered my front door to him standing there, it wouldn't have surprised me a bit:rolleyes: . Good luck to you!

Maxi 03-30-2008 11:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Proud Mommy (Post 1885176)
Thank you:) I am having my son increase his run time with her... I bought her those saddle bags, they are made for dogs, a long time ago, and when I walk her I put it on her and put water bottles in it:confused: because god knows I would last 30 seconds running:p

I would just like to be able to give her ALL my love like I do my Yorkies but it is turning into "conditional" love, And thats not fair to her:(

Oh I was thinking about you and your situation last night and the whole morning today. I was really trying to put myself in your position and think of what would I do. You dont want to have those guilty thoughts what if I didnt do everything for her and I gave her away etc If you feel like you have done everything and nothing worked then I would rehome her to a farm like others suggested. I wouldnt send her back to the rescue but I would find her a nice family who has a farm where she could run around. She is a working dog cant take that away from her. I dont support rehoming animals but I know there are situations where it is neccesary for their own well being. I know you love her and she loves you too. If it is a separation anxiety you can work on that. If she acts up like that because she needs work and more exercise and you are just not able to give that to her then you know what you need to do. That's why I suggested behaviorist. That person you would be able to help you to analyse her behavior and tell you why she acts up. I really feel for you. My heart breaks thou because she knows you rescued her, and she is getting old and needs comfort. Deep inside you ll know if you have done everything for her or not. Big hugs to you :hug:

kalina82 03-30-2008 11:31 AM

you guys talking about Valium gave me another idea. Have you ever heard of a DAP Diffuser? Its used for dogs with anxiety problems. DAP stands for Dog Appeasing Pheromones. The pheromone used is the one that a lactating mother releases which gives the puppies a sense of well-being i believe.

check it out: http://www.healthypets.com/dapdogappher.html

they also come in a collar form.

Maxi 03-30-2008 11:34 AM

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Originally Posted by kalina82 (Post 1885585)
you guys talking about Valium gave me another idea. Have you ever heard of a DAP Diffuser? Its used for dogs with anxiety problems. DAP stands for Dog Appeasing Pheromones. The pheromone used is the one that a lactating mother releases which gives the puppies a sense of well-being i believe.

check it out: http://www.healthypets.com/dapdogappher.html

they also come in a collar form.

Oh yeah I saw that on petedge site but it was called ComfortZone or something like that. I always wondered if it works.

For My Coby 03-30-2008 12:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Proud Mommy (Post 1885240)
I feel the same way about rehoming:thumbup: Thats one of the reasons I have put up with it for so long:( but I am about done:mad: It just kills me that I have failed her:(

Don't you dare even say that! No matter what you decide to try or do, that's about as far from the truth as you can go. (And I know because I had the same feelings about Roxie - but it's not true!) :)

Brianna2191 03-30-2008 01:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Proud Mommy (Post 1885509)
Sounds just like her... Maybe they were separated at birth:rolleyes: :rolleyes:

Haha Maybe! Good luck, and I hope you will find a good answer soon :)

RowdysMom 03-30-2008 05:05 PM

We had a Jack Russell terrier that acted the same way after my husband got sick. Before my hubby was sick, he could play with the dog, they went for long walks, and things were fine. The dog had loads of energy, but we could handle him.

After my hubby developed heart failure and had trouble getting from the bed to the chair, all that changed. I had my hands full working fulltime and taking care of my hubby and my elderly mom who also lives with me.

When my hubby would have to be in the hospital or we would be out of the house for any length of tim, the dog would go NUTS doing all the things you mentioned. We knew we couldn't let him destroy the house and we couldn't keep him in the back yard. We contacted the Jack Russell terrier rescue group and our JTR ended up going to the Navy to be a drug detection dog on the ships.

We knew he was just upset that my hubby was sick, but we just couldn't handle him and he needed a JOB! :eek: We felt horrible that we had to give him up, but we had no choice.

It sounds like you don't either.

sassytooyou 03-31-2008 10:43 AM

keep trying may be send a vedio
 
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Originally Posted by Proud Mommy (Post 1883858)
I have tried several times contacting Cesar, but never any replies. I always figured it was because she is not aggressive.

Personality wise she is a wonderful dog, I think that is why I have put up with it for so long:( She is so sweet and LOVES kids, but I just can't do it anymore:(

sorry to here this. I totaly know you cant have him hurting the other babys. what did the vet say? Have you tryed meds?? ok i no this may be a unpopular thing but........Reconcile for dogs like a prozac for separation anxiety, just a thought... I thing he will be hard to place unless hes on somthing or like some one said in a big feild where he an run off lots of energy.

Tammyh 03-31-2008 11:58 AM

I haven't read any other comments yet but the only thing I can think of is to purchase an outdoor kennel completely enclosed with chain link and I would pour a cement foundation so she can't dig out. I don't blame you a bit for your frustration, you can't have a dog that is destroying your house and now endangering your other dogs. It's not like your going to leave her out there all of the time. At least this way she'll have a safe place to be when you have to be gone. Good luck!

LuvmyYorkies2 03-31-2008 12:21 PM

All I can say is "WOW"!!!! What a Dog! There probably are people who would love to have a dog as "smart", "clever", "mischievous",....oh, I just don't know what to call it...trying to stay away from the negative...the poor thing. One can only imagine what her upbringing was before you came to get her.

I would Love to see Cesar Milan tackle this......can we go on his website and apply??? I think this would definitely be a challenge for him.

I know it's hard because like most of us, it's hard to have animals that you feel you have to use so much restraint with...I'm such a softie but even us softie's can only take but so much.....Kudos to you for sticking it out and trying everything you possibly could...good luck in whatever you decide.

.....now, for Cesar Milan's website, hmmmm????

Sandysbabies 03-31-2008 12:37 PM

A farm or somewhere that the people that would take her had alot of land for her to just run and roam and get all that energy out. Sounds like your house and everything in it has took the bunt of her energy. I am an animal lover and will just about tolerate anything because I get to feeling sorry for them, but this would drive me nuts too. I feel for you. Sounds like you need to rehome her soon and like I said maybe someone will take her where she can run and be too wore out to tear up anything. Good luck.

KathyinCali 03-31-2008 12:45 PM

I agree that it sounds like she should be in a place more suitable to her situation. It does not make you a bad person! And on the other hand, it does not make her a bad dog...I would start contacting rescues to get their advice, maybe they have dealt with this situation before and know a place she can be rehomed more suitable to her needs...

daisy mae06 03-31-2008 05:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kalina82 (Post 1885585)
you guys talking about Valium gave me another idea. Have you ever heard of a DAP Diffuser? Its used for dogs with anxiety problems. DAP stands for Dog Appeasing Pheromones. The pheromone used is the one that a lactating mother releases which gives the puppies a sense of well-being i believe.

check it out: http://www.healthypets.com/dapdogappher.html

they also come in a collar form.

I was telling Maureen about this yesterday :) I could not remember what it was called though.
It may help all of them.. I am going to get this For Sweet Daisy.. she needs it with the Thunder storms.. :(

Proud Mommy 03-31-2008 06:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Maxi (Post 1885576)
Oh I was thinking about you and your situation last night and the whole morning today. I was really trying to put myself in your position and think of what would I do. You dont want to have those guilty thoughts what if I didnt do everything for her and I gave her away etc If you feel like you have done everything and nothing worked then I would rehome her to a farm like others suggested. I wouldnt send her back to the rescue but I would find her a nice family who has a farm where she could run around. She is a working dog cant take that away from her. I dont support rehoming animals but I know there are situations where it is neccesary for their own well being. I know you love her and she loves you too. If it is a separation anxiety you can work on that. If she acts up like that because she needs work and more exercise and you are just not able to give that to her then you know what you need to do. That's why I suggested behaviorist. That person you would be able to help you to analyse her behavior and tell you why she acts up. I really feel for you. My heart breaks thou because she knows you rescued her, and she is getting old and needs comfort. Deep inside you ll know if you have done everything for her or not. Big hugs to you :hug:

thank you for your support:D

Proud Mommy 03-31-2008 06:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kalina82 (Post 1885585)
you guys talking about Valium gave me another idea. Have you ever heard of a DAP Diffuser? Its used for dogs with anxiety problems. DAP stands for Dog Appeasing Pheromones. The pheromone used is the one that a lactating mother releases which gives the puppies a sense of well-being i believe.

check it out: http://www.healthypets.com/dapdogappher.html

they also come in a collar form.

Lori is going to get one and tell me if it works:D

Proud Mommy 03-31-2008 06:44 PM

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Originally Posted by For My Coby (Post 1885718)
Don't you dare even say that! No matter what you decide to try or do, that's about as far from the truth as you can go. (And I know because I had the same feelings about Roxie - but it's not true!) :)

Thank you for understanding:)

Proud Mommy 03-31-2008 06:47 PM

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Originally Posted by RowdysMom (Post 1886322)
We had a Jack Russell terrier that acted the same way after my husband got sick. Before my hubby was sick, he could play with the dog, they went for long walks, and things were fine. The dog had loads of energy, but we could handle him.

After my hubby developed heart failure and had trouble getting from the bed to the chair, all that changed. I had my hands full working fulltime and taking care of my hubby and my elderly mom who also lives with me.

When my hubby would have to be in the hospital or we would be out of the house for any length of tim, the dog would go NUTS doing all the things you mentioned. We knew we couldn't let him destroy the house and we couldn't keep him in the back yard. We contacted the Jack Russell terrier rescue group and our JTR ended up going to the Navy to be a drug detection dog on the ships.

We knew he was just upset that my hubby was sick, but we just couldn't handle him and he needed a JOB! :eek: We felt horrible that we had to give him up, but we had no choice.

It sounds like you don't either.

I am so sorry for you and your husband:( I hope his quality of life is better now:)

Thank you for your story it is reassuring:)

SladesMommy 03-31-2008 06:48 PM

Have you heard anything back from the rescue yet?

Proud Mommy 03-31-2008 06:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Tammyh (Post 1887894)
I haven't read any other comments yet but the only thing I can think of is to purchase an outdoor kennel completely enclosed with chain link and I would pour a cement foundation so she can't dig out. I don't blame you a bit for your frustration, you can't have a dog that is destroying your house and now endangering your other dogs. It's not like your going to leave her out there all of the time. At least this way she'll have a safe place to be when you have to be gone. Good luck!

I had a trainer suggest that... She is looking for a super industrial one for me;)

Proud Mommy 03-31-2008 06:53 PM

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Originally Posted by LuvmyYorkies2 (Post 1887949)
All I can say is "WOW"!!!! What a Dog! There probably are people who would love to have a dog as "smart", "clever", "mischievous",....oh, I just don't know what to call it...trying to stay away from the negative...the poor thing. One can only imagine what her upbringing was before you came to get her.

I would Love to see Cesar Milan tackle this......can we go on his website and apply??? I think this would definitely be a challenge for him.

I know it's hard because like most of us, it's hard to have animals that you feel you have to use so much restraint with...I'm such a softie but even us softie's can only take but so much.....Kudos to you for sticking it out and trying everything you possibly could...good luck in whatever you decide.

.....now, for Cesar Milan's website, hmmmm????

Me too, I think she is even to much for him to handle:rolleyes:

Proud Mommy 03-31-2008 06:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KathyinCali (Post 1888007)
I agree that it sounds like she should be in a place more suitable to her situation. It does not make you a bad person! And on the other hand, it does not make her a bad dog...I would start contacting rescues to get their advice, maybe they have dealt with this situation before and know a place she can be rehomed more suitable to her needs...

I did, I got a call yesterday:D

Proud Mommy 03-31-2008 07:11 PM

Update
 
Yesterday I got a call from a lady name Jane... She was sent my direction from the GSR. We talked for a VERY long time.

She gave me a list of things to try and is also sending me literature on anxiety issues.

She told mr to start off be giving her some vallum for the times that I have to be gone... I asked her if I could use something herbal before jumping into drugs.

We went last night, after I hung up with her, to the vitamin shoppe and bought "Rescue Remedy."

I gave her some this afternoon at 12:30 before leaving for school. I had a very stressful, horrible day so to add that extra smile to my face... I arrived home at 5:00 to no Cassie!!!!!!!!!!:mad: :mad:

I CANT TAKE THIS ANYMORE!!!!:mad:

She is now tied up outside because I DO NOT want to see her right now:mad:

Well actually I have now been on YT for 20 minutes so she is probably GONE!!!!!

BRB Im going to check... If she is still out there I need to bring her in because it is now dark:mad:

Proud Mommy 03-31-2008 07:25 PM

OMG!!!!!!!!!

she was still there!!!!!!!!!

I am going to try and take her into the vet on Wed. to see if I can get some vallum or prozac or a stronger door:p

Something, anything:( :(

Thank you EVERYONE for all your wonderful support:D :D

memphismomma 03-31-2008 07:31 PM

Hey Girl
I dont know what to say i just saw this thread i know i have been on the phone with you when many a time shes gone .... are you thinking about rehoming ? Maybe the lady your sister worked for (trying not to mention names) the one who breed GS would know something or maybe if it comes to it someone ? just a thought... i dont really rember that much about her thou let me know if you want me to help in anyway ok
Love ya
Julie

Proud Mommy 03-31-2008 07:33 PM

This is the response I always get:( :(


Thank you for emailing Cesar Millan, Inc. with your dog behavior question. This is an auto-reply.



Unfortunately, Cesar is not available at this time for private consultations in person, via email, or by phone. Cesar receives hundreds of emails each day from fans across the country looking for advice, so, as you can imagine, it is impossible for him to personally help each individual.



In the case of an emergency, please seek help in your area. See our resources page for further information: http://www.cesarmillaninc.com/dpcla/referrals.php



The emails selected for Cesar's column will highly depend on the subject of the question, the length of the email and whether Cesar has answered the issue in a past article.



We would like to remind you that Cesar receives thousands of emails a month, so sending your question does not guarantee that Cesar will address your question in his column.



For more information on Cesar’s methods, as well as tips, articles and training aids, we suggest signing up to his free monthly newsletter: http://www.cesarmillaninc.com/newsletter



We appreciate you taking the time to write to us - stay calm and assertive.



Warm Regards,


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Proud Mommy 03-31-2008 07:36 PM

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Originally Posted by memphismomma (Post 1888944)
Hey Girl
I dont know what to say i just saw this thread i know i have been on the phone with you when many a time shes gone .... are you thinking about rehoming ? Maybe the lady your sister worked for (trying not to mention names) the one who breed GS would know something or maybe if it comes to it someone ? just a thought... i dont really rember that much about her thou let me know if you want me to help in anyway ok
Love ya
Julie

I talked to a lady yesterday and I am trying what she said to do but so far NOTHING has worked:mad:

I know it takes time but she doesnt even seem interested... :confused: :confused:

Bizzymammabee 03-31-2008 07:39 PM

Yeah auto replys because he is not needing people right now for his tapings...lol.

I think that the meds will be a good start right now. Once you can get her mellowed out then she might be more receptive to the behaviour modification work.

memphismomma 03-31-2008 07:39 PM

we should all mass email ceaser millian about this and have the same tittle :D then it wouldnt be so easy to ignore

Bizzymammabee 03-31-2008 07:41 PM

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Originally Posted by memphismomma (Post 1888962)
we should all mass email ceaser millian about this and have the same tittle :D then it wouldnt be so easy to ignore

We can try...let us know if we need to do it.

Maxi 03-31-2008 07:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by memphismomma (Post 1888962)
we should all mass email ceaser millian about this and have the same tittle :D then it wouldnt be so easy to ignore

Thats a great idea!


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