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i_love_my_yorki · 07-19-2005, 12:33 PM

About the Government!

This goes for Canada too as far as I'm concerned....I just know you'll agree ;-)
hugggs
Rose...

THE LAW IS THE LAW

This is one of the better e-mails I have received in a long time!

I hope this makes its way around the USA several times over!!!!!

So Be It!

THE LAW IS THE LAW

So if the US government determines that it is against the law for the words "under God" to be on our money,then, so be it.

And if that same government decides that the "Ten Commandments" are not to be used in or on a government installation, then, so be it.

And since they already have prohibited any prayer in the schools, on which they deem their authority, then so be it.

I say, "so be it," because I would like to be a law abiding US citizen.

I say, "so be it," because I would like to think that smarter people than I are in positions to make good decisions.

I would like to think that those people have the American Publics' best interests at heart.

BUT, YOU KNOW WHAT ELSE I'D LIKE?

Since we can't pray to God, can't Trust in God and cannot Post His Commandments in Government buildings, I don't believe the Government and it's employees should participate in the Easter and Christmas celebrations which honor the God that our government is eliminating from many facets of American life.

I'd like my mail delivered on Christmas,

Good Friday,

Thanksgiving & Easter.

After all, it's just another day.

I'd like the US Supreme Court to be in session on Christmas,

Good Friday,

Thanksgiving

&

Easter

as well as Sundays. After all, it's just another day.

I'd like the Senate and the House of Representatives to not have to worry about getting home for the "Christmas Break." After all ~ it's just another day.

I'm thinking that a lot of my taxpayer dollars could be saved, if all government offices & services would work on Christmas, Good Friday & Easter.

It shouldn't cost any overtime since those would be just like any other day of the week to a government that is trying to be "politically correct".

In fact....

I think that our government should work on Sundays (initially set aside for worshipping God...) because, after all, our government says that it should be just another day....

What do you all think????

If this idea gets to enough people, maybe our elected officials will stop giving in to the minority opinions and begin, once again, to represent the 'majority' of ALL of the American people.

SO BE IT...........

Please Dear Lord,

Give us the help needed to keep you in our country!

'Amen' and 'Amen'

Touche!

These are definitely things I never thought about but from now on, I will! and I will be sure to questions those, in government, who support these changes .

At the top, it says "I hope this makes its way around the USA several times over!!!!!" Let's see that it does. Keep it in your mailbox and resend it whenever someone new comes along.

cacbeary · 07-19-2005, 04:59 PM

I will pass this around on some emails. So very true!

Laura · 07-19-2005, 06:53 PM

I don't know what happened with this today, but why are you allowed to start it again. The other thread is gone, so obviously it is not acceptable fcr this audience. I told my opinion of this today, and If it is done, stop the posting.

If you are a christian, this is not helping our cause. Grow up

cacbeary · 07-19-2005, 08:13 PM

Sorry, didn't me to offend you. I didn't see the first post.

If the post was deleted, I am sure the Admin would have PM'd Rose explaining why. Maybe it was part of the rules to put (Religious) after the title? It hasn't had that many hits & maybe that's why???

txshopper73 · 07-19-2005, 08:45 PM

Very good! I've forwarded this to my friends!

txshopper73 · 07-19-2005, 08:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Laura

I don't know what happened with this today, but why are you allowed to start it again. The other thread is gone, so obviously it is not acceptable fcr this audience. I told my opinion of this today, and If it is done, stop the posting.

If you are a christian, this is not helping our cause. Grow up

what's up with this?

Junebug · 07-19-2005, 09:15 PM

I actually wouldn't mind getting rid of those religious holidays in exchange for that!

Christmas....it annoys me having to second-guess what everyone wants and ending up with a $5,000 visa bill, and winding up with gifts you'll never use.

Easter....always hated pastels.

Good Friday....never fully understood what that holiday was for anyway.

Thanksgiving...that's not really about God, but the Pilgrims & Indians.

Laura · 07-20-2005, 04:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by txshopper73

what's up with this?

I wasn't offended or trying to offend someone. The same post was put up yesterday morning and had apparently been deleted.

I think this is the sort of thing that catches the eye of the athiest's etc, and before we know it, we won't have any of those holidays either. The company I worked for just eliminated good friday as a holiday due to it's christian nature. For some reason they have left christmas. Maybe they will just call it 'winter shutdown'.

The rest of us sit back and let it happen 'SO BE IT'

sophiedog · 07-20-2005, 04:26 AM

You can take God out of the official political government but you can't take him out of the hearts of his people, and that's what matters most. Jesus said render unto Caesar the things that are Caesars and unto God the things that are his. I don't mix my politics and my belief because to me, the Bible tells me not to. Politics are corrupt and God is pure, be patient and practice loving God and your neighbor, He will take care of the rest!
Just my opinion.

Laura · 07-20-2005, 04:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Junebug

I actually wouldn't mind getting rid of those religious holidays in exchange for that!

Christmas....it annoys me having to second-guess what everyone wants and ending up with a $5,000 visa bill, and winding up with gifts you'll never use.

Easter....always hated pastels.

Good Friday....never fully understood what that holiday was for anyway.

Thanksgiving...that's not really about God, but the Pilgrims & Indians.

Thanksgiving was to thank God for making it through the first winter without dying of starvation or freezing to death. Today we celebrate it as a day to 'thank God' for all the blessings in our lives - our family, our health, our friends.

Good Friday was the day Jesus was crucified for our sins. Easter was the day he rose from the dead to live with his Father in heaven.

suzysmitt · 07-20-2005, 05:21 AM

Amen to that!

StewiesMom · 07-20-2005, 09:38 AM

oh man.

JCarlson2004 · 07-20-2005, 10:04 AM

Are we allowed to post religious things on YT?

tarawood · 07-20-2005, 11:57 AM

While I usually make it a point to stay out of these type of threads, since this post is touting "the law," I find it important to clarify a few things.

The words "separation of church and state" are not in the constitution. The constitution uses the following phrase "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof..."

What this means is that Congress cannot legislate a religion (i.e. everyone has to practice Chrisitianity) and they cannot legislate agains the practice of a religion (i.e. it is against the law to practice budhism). This means that everyone is free to practice whatever religion they choose, regardless of what it is. That means as a nation we must tolerate all religions whether we agree with them or not. The problem with this is that many of those who don't want to practice what the majority practices, also don't want to tolerate it and they claim that by permitting someone to practice their relgion (i.e. allowing a class to pray in public school) they are being infringed upon when the fact is those praying have as much constitutional right to do so as do those who chose not to. So what is the answer? I don't know, but tolerance is definately the key -- not separation of church and state, which leads to religious censure, and is not what our forefathers wanted nor what they intended by the phrase they put in the constitution. Our forefathers were fleeing from government legislated religious persecution because of thier practice of Christianity and they founded this nation solely because they wanted to be able to practice their chosen Christianity without fear of persecution. I do not think they would be pleased with the idea of separation of church and state since it often means CHristianity can no longer be practiced in public places because it may "offend someone" -- that would not have been their idea of religious freedom.

cacbeary · 07-20-2005, 11:57 AM

Everyone prays when a pup is sick. Isn't that religious? If not, who is everyone praying to?

07-19-2005, 12:33 PM	#1
i_love_my_yorki YT 500 Club Member Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 705	The Law! (Religious post) About the Government! This goes for Canada too as far as I'm concerned....I just know you'll agree ;-) hugggs Rose... THE LAW IS THE LAW This is one of the better e-mails I have received in a long time! I hope this makes its way around the USA several times over!!!!! So Be It! THE LAW IS THE LAW So if the US government determines that it is against the law for the words "under God" to be on our money,then, so be it. And if that same government decides that the "Ten Commandments" are not to be used in or on a government installation, then, so be it. And since they already have prohibited any prayer in the schools, on which they deem their authority, then so be it. I say, "so be it," because I would like to be a law abiding US citizen. I say, "so be it," because I would like to think that smarter people than I are in positions to make good decisions. I would like to think that those people have the American Publics' best interests at heart. BUT, YOU KNOW WHAT ELSE I'D LIKE? Since we can't pray to God, can't Trust in God and cannot Post His Commandments in Government buildings, I don't believe the Government and it's employees should participate in the Easter and Christmas celebrations which honor the God that our government is eliminating from many facets of American life. I'd like my mail delivered on Christmas, Good Friday, Thanksgiving & Easter. After all, it's just another day. I'd like the US Supreme Court to be in session on Christmas, Good Friday, Thanksgiving & Easter as well as Sundays. After all, it's just another day. I'd like the Senate and the House of Representatives to not have to worry about getting home for the "Christmas Break." After all ~ it's just another day. I'm thinking that a lot of my taxpayer dollars could be saved, if all government offices & services would work on Christmas, Good Friday & Easter. It shouldn't cost any overtime since those would be just like any other day of the week to a government that is trying to be "politically correct". In fact.... I think that our government should work on Sundays (initially set aside for worshipping God...) because, after all, our government says that it should be just another day.... What do you all think???? If this idea gets to enough people, maybe our elected officials will stop giving in to the minority opinions and begin, once again, to represent the 'majority' of ALL of the American people. SO BE IT........... Please Dear Lord, Give us the help needed to keep you in our country! 'Amen' and 'Amen' Touche! These are definitely things I never thought about but from now on, I will! and I will be sure to questions those, in government, who support these changes . At the top, it says "I hope this makes its way around the USA several times over!!!!!" Let's see that it does. Keep it in your mailbox and resend it whenever someone new comes along.

07-19-2005, 04:59 PM	#2
cacbeary Senior Yorkie Talker Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 203	I will pass this around on some emails. So very true! __________________ Hannah Spencer

07-19-2005, 06:53 PM	#3
Laura Donating YT 1000 Club Member Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Wylie TX Posts: 1,577	I don't know what happened with this today, but why are you allowed to start it again. The other thread is gone, so obviously it is not acceptable fcr this audience. I told my opinion of this today, and If it is done, stop the posting. If you are a christian, this is not helping our cause. Grow up __________________ Laura--loving mom of Robyn, Dexter, Sandy, Mattie, Sammy, Jake & Mollie http://www.yorkietalk.com/gallery/sh...00&ppuser=1851

07-19-2005, 08:13 PM	#4
cacbeary Senior Yorkie Talker Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 203	Sorry, didn't me to offend you. I didn't see the first post. If the post was deleted, I am sure the Admin would have PM'd Rose explaining why. Maybe it was part of the rules to put (Religious) after the title? It hasn't had that many hits & maybe that's why??? __________________ Hannah Spencer

07-19-2005, 08:45 PM	#5
txshopper73 Donating YT 14K Club Member Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Texas Posts: 14,226 Blog Entries: 1	Very good! I've forwarded this to my friends! __________________ As always...JMO (Just My Opinion) Kimberley

07-19-2005, 09:15 PM	#7
Junebug *Moderator Emeritus* Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: California Posts: 1,149	I actually wouldn't mind getting rid of those religious holidays in exchange for that! Christmas....it annoys me having to second-guess what everyone wants and ending up with a $5,000 visa bill, and winding up with gifts you'll never use. Easter....always hated pastels. Good Friday....never fully understood what that holiday was for anyway. Thanksgiving...that's not really about God, but the Pilgrims & Indians.

07-20-2005, 04:26 AM	#9
sophiedog YT Addict Join Date: May 2005 Location: Kentucky Posts: 496	You can take God out of the official political government but you can't take him out of the hearts of his people, and that's what matters most. Jesus said render unto Caesar the things that are Caesars and unto God the things that are his. I don't mix my politics and my belief because to me, the Bible tells me not to. Politics are corrupt and God is pure, be patient and practice loving God and your neighbor, He will take care of the rest! Just my opinion. __________________ Windy and Lida Rose "Be who you are and say what you feel, because those who mind don't matter, and those who matter don't mind." Dr. Seuss

07-20-2005, 05:21 AM	#11
suzysmitt Currently Suspended! Join Date: May 2005 Location: Florida Posts: 2,150	Amen to that!

07-20-2005, 09:38 AM	#12
StewiesMom Stewie Rox the Sox Donating Member Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Chicago Posts: 6,306	oh man. __________________ Kristy & Stewie

07-20-2005, 10:04 AM	#13
JCarlson2004 Mommy To 3 Poochies Donating Member Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: New York Posts: 8,287	Are we allowed to post religious things on YT? __________________ Mommy Loves Codie, Tia & Baby Cali RIP My Precious Katie - I Love You

07-20-2005, 11:57 AM	#14
tarawood YT 500 Club Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Lubbock, TX Posts: 540	While I usually make it a point to stay out of these type of threads, since this post is touting "the law," I find it important to clarify a few things. The words "separation of church and state" are not in the constitution. The constitution uses the following phrase "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof..." What this means is that Congress cannot legislate a religion (i.e. everyone has to practice Chrisitianity) and they cannot legislate agains the practice of a religion (i.e. it is against the law to practice budhism). This means that everyone is free to practice whatever religion they choose, regardless of what it is. That means as a nation we must tolerate all religions whether we agree with them or not. The problem with this is that many of those who don't want to practice what the majority practices, also don't want to tolerate it and they claim that by permitting someone to practice their relgion (i.e. allowing a class to pray in public school) they are being infringed upon when the fact is those praying have as much constitutional right to do so as do those who chose not to. So what is the answer? I don't know, but tolerance is definately the key -- not separation of church and state, which leads to religious censure, and is not what our forefathers wanted nor what they intended by the phrase they put in the constitution. Our forefathers were fleeing from government legislated religious persecution because of thier practice of Christianity and they founded this nation solely because they wanted to be able to practice their chosen Christianity without fear of persecution. I do not think they would be pleased with the idea of separation of church and state since it often means CHristianity can no longer be practiced in public places because it may "offend someone" -- that would not have been their idea of religious freedom. __________________ Tara