Originally Posted by daisy mae06 (Post 1861383)

Mandee You were Totally in the right in this and that excuse for a Parent really needs to get a Clue. You did the right thing. I bet she knows that she is not welcome to to Invite herself to dinner again.

Originally Posted by MyFairLacy (Post 1861395)

well, when her kids grow up and start committing crimes and get arrested, maybe she'll remember your e-mail and realize you are right :rolleyes:

Originally Posted by pepe mint (Post 1861400)

you know what makes ME realize I was right??? the fact that her son was kicked out of school at 4 years old. he was asked to leave and not come back!!! and his mom works there!!!!!!!!

that should show that it isn't all in my head LOL

Originally Posted by pepe mint (Post 1861390)

know what's funny??? she invited me over to her house for easter LOL
i declined. my dtr won't be here anyway LOL

Originally Posted by daisy mae06 (Post 1861410)

LOL I would go and Let her have a taste of her own MED!;)

Originally Posted by pepe mint (Post 1861364)

Well, I got an email from her. long story short, she said her boys got in a lot of trouble, and that she cried over my email, but that she honestly did not think her boys had caused any trouble. She went on to say that the other 3 times that she has been over (including the time that she called and asked if she could bring the boys over because she was in the neighborhood and needed a babysitter), that my daughters play room was not clean. so she expects it to be that way every day. she said she did not look in there before they went in to play, and when had gone into my daughters bedroom, there was a laundry hamper in the middle of the room along with a bunch of stuff piled on her dresser. So she assumed that since her room was "a mess" that the play room was too. WHATEVER. I am not going to defend my daughter here...because she has been under a lot of pressure from us over the last or 8 months about keeping her rooms cleaner and she has done a GREAT job. So...unfortunately, she didn't know that and just assumed what she did...and "didn't realize" that her boys had "made a bigger mess than they ever have in their entire lives". She says that she had asked them if they cleaned up everything they played with and they said yes, so she believed them and they just left.

about the fish...she said that the boys have never been around a fish before and they thought they could pet the fish like they do their cats. PUHLEEEEZZZEEE!!!!!!!! she also said that her boys said that the markers and toys and stuff that were in the fish tank were already there. now that is BULL because my daughter knows better!!! she has never once put anything in there other than fish food, and she is not even allowed to do that anymore because she dumped a bunch in there about 2 years ago. she would NEVER put toys and stuff in there. NEVER. I will take that to my grave!!!

so all in all, she really doesn't think her kids are at fault here. she is amazed that I would even bring it up to her. she said she would never contact someone's parents and tell them that they were upset about the condition their kids left her house. She says that she would never even ask OR allow children to clean up their messes in her house...because she feels it is her responsibility as the host. well, that is what is wrong with her...she doesn't feel that as a guest, you should have to clean up after your children. so therefore, she doesn't feel that she should have to have her..or her children clean up after they have spent 3 hours or more playing in a play room. not even when her children were the only ones in there...REMEMBER...my daughter was not here. it was ONLY her kids playing here.

now...I do not allow my guests to help me with the dishes and general clean up like that after dinner....I would rather them just enjoy being here and I will clean that stuff up after everyone is gone. HOWEVER, I have never had a guest come into my home for dinner and NOT at least offer...and I would never go to someone's house for dinner and not offer to help clean up. and I would offer with the FULL intention of really doing it!!!! and you better believe, that my child is being raised to be the same way!!! she WILL clean up after herself at our house and at other people's house. bottom line.

The problem I see is that she does not feel she should have to go to someone's house and clean up after herself...and she is not raising her kids to feel that they should clean up the toys they play with...the chalk, moon sand, play dough, and everything else that they play with for 3+ hours. It should be up to her to offer to clean up, and up to me to deny the offer if I feel that it is not necessary. and 99.99% of the time, I would not accept it. HOWEVER, I would have accepted the offer for their children to clean up after the tornado mess that they left behind. That would have been my .001%.

does that make sense?

I'm really upset about her response. but honestly, I expected it.

Originally Posted by Bizzymammabee (Post 1861418)

You were right and she is full of ish. She knows those demons make a mess. Either way if the room was a mess you have your children straighten up...because they played in there.

I really really hate when people want to pull that nonsense and refuse to take responsiblity for their lack of parenting and discipline. As for her saying she would never call a parent on that then that is on her. Let her go live in her dirty bubble with her children and stay in denial. They won't get any better if she refuses to accept responsiblity and make them do the same. Those children will only get worse.

I can take my children to anyone's house. .they know they have to clean up before they leave. There is no entering places until they ask permission. If someone says my children did something I would know if they were lying or not. A parent knows what their children are capable of.

Originally Posted by Rae Rae (Post 1861461)

:mad: What's next, people are going to expect you to wipe their bottoms when their guests too? :thumbdown :mad: :mad: :mad:

Originally Posted by Rae Rae (Post 1861476)

Hey I just thought of something you can do, kind of what Daisy Mae suggested, but take your daughter to her house, have your daughter make a mess, then if she says anything say "Oh but you KNEW my daughter was messy, so since you welcomed her over I didn't think it would bother you" Then leave!:p