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Wylie's Mom · 11-09-2007, 01:44 PM

How does anyone know left if they don't know right?

What would a Democrat be if there were no Republicans?

How can anyone know god without also exploring "no god"?

In other words, if we don't look at all sides of things - including the opposing sides - how would we ever find the middle?

To each their own. This is either a brilliant marketing scheme, an educational opportunity, or one group's view. Now I'll HAVE to see it just bc of the potential for opinions based in censorship alone.

sweetr72 · 11-09-2007, 02:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Wylie's Mom

How does anyone know left if they don't know right?

What would a Democrat be if there were no Republicans?

How can anyone know god without also exploring "no god"?

In other words, if we don't look at all sides of things - including the opposing sides - how would we ever find the middle?

To each their own. This is either a brilliant marketing scheme, an educational opportunity, or one group's view. Now I'll HAVE to see it just bc of the potential for opinions based in censorship alone.

I like your way of thinking

I guess I am in the middle..I am agnostic..NOT to be confused with atheist...I remember the outroar of angry parents when Harry Potter came out and my kids are no worse for wear from watching it..actually they are past Harry Potter now...and probably wont want to watch this one either..

Dawn

mistyinca · 11-09-2007, 03:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Wylie's Mom

How does anyone know left if they don't know right?

What would a Democrat be if there were no Republicans?

How can anyone know god without also exploring "no god"?

In other words, if we don't look at all sides of things - including the opposing sides - how would we ever find the middle?

To each their own. This is either a brilliant marketing scheme, an educational opportunity, or one group's view. Now I'll HAVE to see it just bc of the potential for opinions based in censorship alone.

I agree. I would have had no interest in seeing this. Now I want to. LOL!

MeganS · 11-09-2007, 03:39 PM

oh my.

MyFairLacy · 11-09-2007, 04:23 PM

I think a lot of people read WAY too much into FICTIONAL books and movies that come out. First it was Harry Potter - exposing kids to witchcraft...okay, it's just a book and now movie..just stories. Not any different than most Disney fairytails out. Then there was the Davinci Code..churches all over were having sermons about how terrible it was and not to believe it. Okay...again a FICTIONAL book/movie..maybe even a theory somewhat..but like I said, FICTIONAL. No one was trying to prove anything by the Davinci Code...just something interesting to read and consider. Now we have this movie...again...FICTIONAL! Just a story! I guess there's going to be series of sermons over this movie now too... I just don't understand why people get so upset about a fictional movie and then try to disprove everything about it. BTW - there is nothing to disprove with a fictional book/movie because it's not factual - it's made up (ie Fiction)

cockerduchess · 11-09-2007, 05:57 PM

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Originally Posted by BubblPopElectrc

Give me a break. As if a movie is going to convert children to atheism.

All it takes are those little seeds of doubt.
This is one movie my kids will NOT see!

BubblPopElectrc · 11-09-2007, 05:59 PM

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Originally Posted by cockerduchess

All it takes are those little seeds of doubt

lol.

zoeybear · 11-09-2007, 06:04 PM

agnostic..NOT to be confused with atheist

I don't understand the difference. I know what Atheist is, it's the other that confuses me. Does Agnostic mean you are undecided?

cockerduchess · 11-09-2007, 06:05 PM

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Originally Posted by BubblPopElectrc

lol.

What's that supposed to mean?

Buddy-licious · 11-09-2007, 06:06 PM

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Originally Posted by cockerduchess

All it takes are those little seeds of doubt.
This is one movie my kids will NOT see!

I agree with you!

BubblPopElectrc · 11-09-2007, 06:10 PM

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cockerduchess · 11-09-2007, 06:17 PM

Ok well I see you edited your post but to relpy it is not a "supposedly" atheist movie it is an atheist movie here is the link that I got in my email about the movie this am http://snopes.com/politics/religion/compass.asp

Tillys_mom · 11-09-2007, 06:59 PM

I didn't even know that movie existed.

I don't think my kids will be brainwashed with that movie. I hope that the things that I will teach them will carry them through life and I wont have to worry about sheltering them. I've never seen Harry Potter, not because I think it's going to make me want to be a witch, I just thought it looked corney. If my children wanted to read that I would allow them to because I hope they would know fantasy from reality. Harry Potter is fake. I'm Christian and I believe in God and Heaven, but I've always liked reading up on other religions. Not because I wanted to convert, but I think it's interesting. I had friends of all religions or even no religion at all. I had straight friends and non straight friends and we all got along great. Even though I wanted to drag them all to church with me on Sunday, I always found their beliefs interesting. I wouldn't be upset if my children had a diverse group of friends either. All of my friends were welcome in my parents home. So to get back on topic here, I don't think this movie is going to turn my kids against God. If that was the authors point with the book, it wont work. If the child is going to be turned against God by a movie, they could be turned against Him in numerous other ways. It must not of taken much to change their minds. I don't appreciate a movie like this made, it wont be allowed in my home. Not because I think it will turn my kids atheist, but I just think it sounds tasteless. Sorry for the vent.....LOL

sweetr72 · 11-09-2007, 07:09 PM

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Originally Posted by zoeybear

agnostic..NOT to be confused with atheist

I don't understand the difference. I know what Atheist is, it's the other that confuses me. Does Agnostic mean you are undecided?

Here is what agnostic means to me..

An agnostic believes that the nature of God and/or supernatural are unknown and unknowable by human beings, if they exist at all. An agnostic thinks it is impossible (at least now, with our current understanding of the nature of the world) to conclusively know the truth about the existence of God and the afterlife which Christianity and other religions are concerned with.

If you ask an agnostic "Does God exist?", possible replies might include:

I don't personally know.
I can't give an opinion because we can't prove the existence or non-existence of God given currently available knowledge.
I can't give an opinion because there's no real way to know, with certainty, anything about God.
Anything's possible, but we can't assert that God definitely does exist, or that God definitely does not exist. It is beyond our capabilities to prove anything about God.

An agnostic is different from an atheist, who believes, with certainty, that God does not exist. Agnostic means, literally, "does not know" (from Greek: the prefix a- means "not/without" + gnosis means "knowledge"

sweetr72 · 11-09-2007, 07:15 PM

I also wanted to add that I was raised a Christian and chose my agnostic beliefs as an adult..I also let my children decide as to what they believe..I wouldnt love them less if they decided to believe or not believe in god..its a personal choice. My husband is RC and loves to call me an atheist because I wont conform to his religious beliefs...but I just cant and wont..

11-09-2007, 01:44 PM	#16
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MyFairLacy Donating YT 10K Club Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: DFW, Texas Posts: 11,003	I think a lot of people read WAY too much into FICTIONAL books and movies that come out. First it was Harry Potter - exposing kids to witchcraft...okay, it's just a book and now movie..just stories. Not any different than most Disney fairytails out. Then there was the Davinci Code..churches all over were having sermons about how terrible it was and not to believe it. Okay...again a FICTIONAL book/movie..maybe even a theory somewhat..but like I said, FICTIONAL. No one was trying to prove anything by the Davinci Code...just something interesting to read and consider. Now we have this movie...again...FICTIONAL! Just a story! I guess there's going to be series of sermons over this movie now too... I just don't understand why people get so upset about a fictional movie and then try to disprove everything about it. BTW - there is nothing to disprove with a fictional book/movie because it's not factual - it's made up (ie Fiction) __________________ ~Magnifique Yorkies~ Purchasing from backyard breeders, pet shops, and puppymills perpetuates the suffering of other dogs. Educate yourself and buy from reputable breeders or rescue.

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zoeybear Misssing Baby Chloe Donating Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: California Posts: 4,186	agnostic..NOT to be confused with atheist I don't understand the difference. I know what Atheist is, it's the other that confuses me. Does Agnostic mean you are undecided? __________________ We give dogs time we can spare, space we can spare and love we can spare. And in return, dogs give us their all. It's the best deal man has ever made. -M. Acklam

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cockerduchess Donating YT 1000 Club Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Oklahoma Posts: 1,473	Ok well I see you edited your post but to relpy it is not a "supposedly" atheist movie it is an atheist movie here is the link that I got in my email about the movie this am http://snopes.com/politics/religion/compass.asp __________________ Emma GraceTia Bella Maddie

11-09-2007, 06:59 PM	#28
Tillys_mom Spoilin' Tilly & Jack Donating Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Indiana Posts: 2,227	I didn't even know that movie existed. I don't think my kids will be brainwashed with that movie. I hope that the things that I will teach them will carry them through life and I wont have to worry about sheltering them. I've never seen Harry Potter, not because I think it's going to make me want to be a witch, I just thought it looked corney. If my children wanted to read that I would allow them to because I hope they would know fantasy from reality. Harry Potter is fake. I'm Christian and I believe in God and Heaven, but I've always liked reading up on other religions. Not because I wanted to convert, but I think it's interesting. I had friends of all religions or even no religion at all. I had straight friends and non straight friends and we all got along great. Even though I wanted to drag them all to church with me on Sunday, I always found their beliefs interesting. I wouldn't be upset if my children had a diverse group of friends either. All of my friends were welcome in my parents home. So to get back on topic here, I don't think this movie is going to turn my kids against God. If that was the authors point with the book, it wont work. If the child is going to be turned against God by a movie, they could be turned against Him in numerous other ways. It must not of taken much to change their minds. I don't appreciate a movie like this made, it wont be allowed in my home. Not because I think it will turn my kids atheist, but I just think it sounds tasteless. Sorry for the vent.....LOL __________________ Momma Tilly Money will buy you a pretty good dog, but it won't buy the wag of his tail.

11-09-2007, 07:15 PM	#30
sweetr72 No Longer a Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Ontario, Canada Posts: 6,111	I also wanted to add that I was raised a Christian and chose my agnostic beliefs as an adult..I also let my children decide as to what they believe..I wouldnt love them less if they decided to believe or not believe in god..its a personal choice. My husband is RC and loves to call me an atheist because I wont conform to his religious beliefs...but I just cant and wont..