Tilly the tri colour- or is she a cross?
 

This is Tilly. she is 10 weeks old. Is she a cross or a tri colour? The breeder thought she had 1/4 cross of jack russell in her because of her colouring but when I took her to the vet the vet said she looked like a tri colour to her and did not add the cross..

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I am loving the last picture. Just too cute. About the coloring. The breeder did not know who tied with her dam?

yes I met the parents and the grand parents who all looked yorkie. I asked where the x was as they were listed as cross and she said "you tell me" but she was told the grandmother had a cross in her with a jrt. All the pups came out black and tan except this one and one other that sadly did not make it. This was an accidental litter and her last. Im just curious as the vet dropped the x off her folder and put her as a tri colour yorkie. Curious because I want to see how she grows up she is 2lb 8oz but though she looked identical to her litter mates she just differed in colour.

looks like JRT in there for sure - one way or another super super super cute!!!!!!

Either way im in love! But having googled the cross she does not much look like them either and much more closely resembles a tri colour. I am the most impatient person I know and eager to see what she turns into I guess! I didnt want a pup really but having our dane x and chickens there was no way we would of found an adult toy breed accustomed to large dogs, children and chickens so my first go at a puppy! Zach the big one was a rescue to which we have just been lucky with :)

How can the breeder think she has 1/4 jack russel in her? (did I miss something?) Isnt that something a breeder should be able to confirm or deny with no ifs ands or buts?
I just don´t understand how the person who bred her own dog could speculate on what mix is in her :confused:

Either way, I LOVE her colouring and she´s beautiful :D

She got the grandmother as a cross however she turned out looking 100 percent yorkie. she has the grandmother and the daughter as well as the boys both grandfather to Tilly and her father.

Tilly is absolutely adorable, no matter what she is. If you want to be sure, though, you can send out a dna sample.
Dog DNA Test Doggie DNA Testing and Mixed Breed Canine DNA Testing For Dogs - Dog-DNA.com
Another YT member had a dog that 100% of YT members that guessed said absolutely could not be a pure yorkie from the pics, and 100% of us were wrong. So, I will no longer try to guess, since appearances can be deceiving. :D I know the pureness of the lineage does not matter when it comes down to love for a pet, though, so I just put that out there about the test in case you just want to know for curiosities sake. ;)

I like the idea of DNA. Do they do them in the UK though? Never worked shipping out

Oooh...I didn't look at your location, but I'm thinking since it is a mail-in sample, why not? It shouldn't matter where the test is run. I guess the only problem would possibly be £ instead of $?

She looks almost identical to my Holly ... and she's a Biewer Yorkie or as some call them a Biewer Terrier .... In my case I'm starting to think she may has some JRT in her as well .. I did not purchase Holly, she was given as a gift and from what I can tell the breeder was a "back yard or home" breeder ....

I'm going to do a DNA test at some stage, but really at the end of the day it doesn't matter either way but always good to know :-)

p.s. I'm sure there are DNA testing for dogs in the UK .. a google.uk search should provide so leads :-)

I would say she's a mix, but you could do a dna test like others have said. She's adorable either way!

They have Wisdom Panel DNA tests in the UK as well:

UK Canine DNA Testing, Canine Ancestry

Good luck, and let us know the results!

Kewl!! Thanks!!! Ever since the Minnie thing, I don't even guess anymore! :D

Well if the grandmother is part JRT then your sweet pup is part JRT. If you want you can do a DNA on her. She is it cutie.

If a grandparent dog is a mix of a Yorkie & JRT than that mix stays in the line. It may not be as apparent in litters that are a product of those cross breed pups but at some point the markings and characteristics of the cross can show up any time with any litter who is a product of that cross breeding.

So, yes your pup is a cross breed pups and a very cute and adorable one ! :)

If the breeder knows without a doubt that the grandmother is a mix, then of course this pup would be a mix as well. If they don't know for sure...it's a toss up. Get the DNA test if you really want to know, otherwise just love her cuteness and she'll love you back ten fold.

There are a couple of things you should consider before investing in the MARS Wisdom Panel test. First, the Jack Russell is not on their Breeds Detected list in the UK. The Parsons Russell is listed but I don't know how that will affect the results and introduces another entire list of questions. Second, if all the parents and grandparents of your dog appeared as Yorkie then it is almost certain your results will be Yorkshire Terrier. If there is any chance it is a Biewer Terrier then you can only do a blood test and not the cheek swab which is the more expensive test and your vet will have to do the collection.

I normally support the MARS test to determine breeds but in your case it may be a waste of money. Your dog is really cute in the pictures. If you do not plan on breeding her then I would skip the expense.

Whatever happened to Minnie & her human? I'd love to see photos of Minnie growing up!

Actually, according to the Wisdom Panel website, the Parsons Russell Terrier is virtually the same as the Jack Russell--just a different name for the same breed. The name difference has to do with kennel club turf war issues.

Parson Russell Terrier: Terrier - Dog Breed Library

I agree that most breeders believe the Jack Russell Terrier and the Parson Russell Terrier are the same dog. I am familiar with the controversy over the name. Moreover, the Parson Russell has been the recognized breed name for over 30 years in the UK. If someone is still using Jack Russell Terrier then it may be a dog that is not registered with The Kennel Club of the UK or purebred. That was one cause of my hesitation for believing the MARS test may not provide the answers Hanluem seeks.

For this purpose I will agree the Parson and Jack Russell are the same dog. I would still not recommend the MARS test for this situation. Two generations of this pedigree did not express white or any appearance different from a Yorkie. Unless she wants to breed the dog or the dog has health issue concerns I see no need in spending the money to find out what she already knows. I only support the MARS test for rescue and shelter dogs where no or limited information is available. I based this on years of researching MARS products and speaking with their UK and USA staff.

If Hanleum's adorable dog is a cross between a Yorkie and Parson Russell terrier then I believe investing in agility equipment and activities to keep the dog busy would be a better investment. That is going to be an active, intelligent, curious dog and from the pictures it will not be afraid of anything.

I would get the DNA test done just to satisfy my idle curiosity. The dog does look a little like a Biewer or piebald Yorkie, but Jack Russell Terriers (or Parson Russell Terriers if you prefer) also appear to be piebald, and the piebald trait is recessive, so it wouldn't be seen until two carriers are crossed together. I'd still like to know if the piebald coloration came from a Jack Russell Terrier three generations back, or whether the coloration is due to a piebald gene that had been carried in the lineage for many generations. Just idle curiosity on my part, like I said. The dog is quite beautiful.

I didnt get any notificatins for all these replies!
No I wont breed her because my dane x is a rescue dog and anyone familiar with rescue dogs will agree.. theres too many x breeds out there although not toy sized why breed a non pedigree when theres so many out there sat in homing centres.
I just really wanted to satisfy my own curiosity because to me she is identical to a tri coloured yorkie a biewer if you like. If it was not for the vet changing the breed I registered her as I would not of asked. mother father, grandmother and grandfather all looked black and tan normal yorkie but as I said grandmother was sold as a x with a JRt.
Interesting on findings with your opinions on JRT and dna... Maybe I will have to wait! as an adult will we be better able to see a x or not?

Some more recent photographs she changes daily as pups do





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Well...she certainly is cute!!

I would think that she would be one little ball of energy if she was a jack/yorkie cross. I am sure she will offer you lots of entertainment as both breeds are full of personality!

She looks very much like my baby, especially the colors .. and she was sold to us as a Biewer Yorkie

The second picture is her playing with a JRT