What About Us? ◙ Warning!! Graphic!! ◙
 

So many times I read about someone buying a puppy online, they link a cute website, and pictures of puppies in cute clothes or romping with children. Sometimes, they have pictures of the whole family, and the website has American flags, and Bible scripture. The sites all make you feel like you've found a reputable breeder, and they even have "adoption forms," so you believe the breeder cares about puppy placement.

Many people will say that they talked to the breeder and he/she seems like such a nice person. Seasoned members of Yorkietalk will try to warn the person that it probably not a good place to buy a puppy, but the person has "puppy fever" and wants a puppy NOW! Besides they say, "Even if it is a puppy mill, puppy mill puppies need homes too, and at least I will give my one puppy a good home." What's wrong with this thinking? Every time you "rescue" a puppy from a bad breeder two more will take its place, and what about all the breeding dogs left behind? Remember if you support puppy millers you are condoning the torture of million of dogs!

Don't forget, anyone can join Yorkietalk, just because someone is a member of Yorkietalk, it doesn't make him or her a reputable breeder. Reputable breeders will want you to come to their homes, they will want to get to know you and become a part of their lives, do not support breeders who won't let you see how the breeding dogs live.




Please watch this video if you aren't familiar with Puppy mills, its important to see that these dogs need our help. Please encourage others not to buy puppies online, and feel free to link it, whenever you see that someone is thinking about supporting an online breeder. Is every breeder selling online a puppy mill? No, of course not, but there is absolutely no way of knowing the difference, unless you visit the IN PERSON. Now that people know about not buying puppies from pet stores, millers are selling online through brokers and their own websites. So if you can't watch the video please listen to the song, and think about, What About Us? If you get your puppy from a rescue make sure it's a reputable rescue and not just a broker selling puppies from puppy mill breeders. Reputable breeders NEVER sell a dog online, they may have an online site, but they do NOT sell the dog from the site. There is a HUGE difference!


For more information on Puppy mills see these sites:

Articles - Puppy Mill Dogs Rescued by CAPS

Puppy Mills in Canada

Puppy Mill Bill

The Communitarian | Local News | Dogs suffer abuse at puppy mills, says animal rescue group

Doggie in the Window

Puppy Mill Bust in Missouri

Great post...thank you. Rose and Levi

Amazing, sad video! And perfect song choice (you know I'm an MJ fan!) People really need to watch these kind of things to open their eyes. The 1st time I saw the Oprah puppymill special was when I really learned about the terrors of puppymills. Since then, I've even given a speech in my college Oral Communications class about puppymills and spread the word little by little. My professor gave me an A+ and everyone in the class was so moved by my speech... they said they had NO idea.

Nancy - GREAT POST and thank you for putting this up - we used to do this all the time here and it seems to have gone by the wayside.

People (all over) just don't think beyond that cute puppy when buying dogs - especially from PET STORES -but there are more small scale mills now than ever especially with the internet

it's such a vicious cycle

that video wasn't nearly as graphic as some - the MJ song was perfect for it but I admit - I could only watch 1/2 of it - makes me too sad

I thought about you when I made it! Glad you approve of the song choice, and I know MJ would feel the same way. Good for you for educating others, so many of us who are aware of it think EVERYONES know mills.

Thank you for the post Nancy. I am going to send it to my FB.

Good for you :thumbup:-

years ago when I saw my 1st mill video I was so shook up ...I was crying -(for days and days),,,,and couldn't shake the feelings - I remember my husband telling me no more computer -

I forced myself to watch and learn what I could so when I spoke I'd have knowledge of what I was talking about and they still make me cry

it's still haunting to know they're out there thriving all for a few dollars.

anyone can search the net and see tons of them - they are THAT big of an industry but like Nancy warned - some are very very graphic.

Nancy, another great post! I really hope people who come to this site see this video before making a decision to buy from a pet store or online.

I feel sick after watching that video...I can't believe some humans and how they treat these helpless animals…

You're right, this one isn't as graphic as most, but we have a tenderhearted crew here, I didn't use the worst pictures. Sometimes just seeing a dog looking out from the bars is hard enough.

Thank you so much for posting this! A lot of people think that they are "rescuing" a pup from a puppy mill, but instead they are supporting them. As soon as they sell all their pups they will just make more. This is so sad and heartbreaking! I couldn't finish watching it, it made me cry.

Excellent, heartbreaking video. It makes me so sad to think that Thor's parents probably spent their lives in one of those cages. :(

Great Post! I am uploading it to my Facebook Page too :)

Oh why oh why did I just watch that? I'm about to pass out. :(:(:(
Those poor things, I'm about to cry. I only made it about half way.
Thank you for this thread nancy.

I cried through the whole video, start to finish... Oliver sat on my lap and all I could do was glance down at him, knowing that he spent his first year and a half in one of those cages, piled up to the ceiling in someone's garage. He was abused, malnourished, and neglected. And his parents and grandparents likely suffered far more and far longer than Oliver did. He was one of the lucky ones. He got out. He's on the floor right now playing with his little sister. He remembers what he's endured. I'm not sure he'll ever forget.

These videos always make me cry. I look at Cocoa and Snowboy and know that this is the way they lived. "Revenge is mine, I won't overlook a thing," say the Lord. (Heb.10:30 Message)

Nancy, I would like to include this thread in the links that I post on Newbies profile pages when I run across someone looking for a puppy. Thank you. ~Joanne~

so very sad to see what people are prepared to do to animals, just to make money.

I only made it halfway too. It just makes me so angry! Sometimes I think these vids are great, and sometimes I think they're wasted on the wrong people. Most of us that responded to this post are well aware of what is going on, and the ones that really need to see it, well.... they're too closed off to even take a moment to get past the intro. I hope when someone googles "purchasing first puppy" or whatever, they get a link to this thread. It really is an eye opener.

Nancy, I think this post was great. I'm not trying to take anything away from your post, because it's great. Perfect song selection too. It really is what about them, too. So a person buys and rescues that one pup. What about the ones that are stuck producing more and more!:mad::mad::mad::mad:

What a great post Nancy! It's so hard to watch, but it's so important to be educated.

I got Rory from what I realized was a puppy broker (probably the lowest of the low) after joining YT and finally educating myself. :( I was so sick to my stomach for days thinking what her mom's life was probably like. I just knew my next dog had to be a puppymill rescue, which is exactly what Lane is. We are very lucky that Lane has come out of her shell in many ways, but there are still plenty of times that you can see her past has had a lasting impact on her. Unfortunately, the guy I got Rory from appears to now sell maltese too. :mad:

On a lighter note, I'm happy to report that pet store down the street from us is going out of business!!! :D We only recently moved here, but I was very tempted to stand out front with Lane and her before pictures of her previous home, err rabbit cage filled with feces.

Uhm........sad!

Yeah, I know what you mean, I think most regular members are fully aware of puppy mills, but I still think we all could do more to discourage people from buying dogs online. I think people don't want to be seen as rude so they don't speak up, and personally it's wearing to be called rude over and over, no matter how well you feel like you have worded the post. I think we need to tell people to visit the breeder's home in person, and we all need to stand firm in this. Even good breeders, who start off with the best intentions, may be tempted to take short cuts, if they are selling too many dogs too easily online.

I had to force myself to watch the entire video, it is so overwhelmingly heartbreaking and I feel my blood boil with anger for the people that allow this to happen to poor defenseless animals just to make a buck. I'm posting to Facebook too.

Yay!!! The word is getting out about pet stores! Remember, to stop the mills we have to stop the brokers, I agree with you, they are the lowest of the low!

Thank you, and also brendah, and TLC for pasting this on Face Book, that's an excellent way to help get the word out. I've got to join Face Book!

A big thank you to 4doggiemama as well, I love what you are doing to help educate newbies, Yorkietalk has a million great threads, but locating them takes so much time. Linking them can save them lots of time and heartache, if they read the threads! :)

This is what I posted, along with your video on FB (I tried to make it simple and to the point ;) for the 'average joe' out there in FB land - hahahahaha)

PLEASE do not buy from Petstore OR Online OR from Backyard or USDA Breeders...Watch this video to get a better understanding of the Moms and Dads of those cute little pups that are left to Suffer beyond Words. PLEASE stop putting more money into the Evil People who operate puppymills...

For every pup that you buy from the Petstore, just know that 2 more pups will take it's place, meaning more Moms and Dads are forced to produce more...ALL in the name of the mighty dollar...

There are literaly MILLIONS of purebreed dogs in Shelter and Rescues, PLEASE adopt: Pet adoption: Want a dog or cat? Adopt a pet on Petfinder

If you are not part of the Solution, than you are part of the Problem...

The millers to me are the lowlifes and there's AUCTIONS too that I cannot believe happen in the dog world. It's sickening - there's alot of info and vid on the net about them - many try to go in and rescue dogs but in a way they're only lining pockets to continue the cycle though I really can understand the total disgust and feeling of wanting to save these poor dogs


the list is endless of what goes in in the pet industry - many just see those cute puppies without a thought into HOW that puppy entered the world.....then you have the BYB's leaving dogs in cages - outside - cages etc and it's like banging our head against the wall because SO many never give it a thought.

Charlize Theron did one of the best - it was on Dateline -

warning THIS is graphic too !!!!:thumbup:

How do you post on FB, do you just copy and paste? Can I use what you wrote here?

Sure you and anyone else can use what I wrote.

You have to go to Nancy's video on You Tube. Under the video there is a link or share botton, and you can select FB. Then a pop up will promt you to sign into your FB account, do that, and then there will be box to write what you want, and it will link the video too :)

It is terribly heart wrenching what is going on and what these little creatures are going through.

It is my belief not tell people where get their puppies from. But, to educate them in how to go about obtaining their dogs; whether it be from Reputable Breeders, shelter, and/or rescues.

I truely believe the purpose of Nancy's thread is to invoke thought when people frequent and obtain puppies from BYBers, classified, internet, etc. I know that it is difficult to walk away from that cute little face and your thought is I'm rescuing this dog. But, when one does this, what about the pups that will take their place and the ones that are left behind. So an attempt is being made here to support those better breeders/rescues/shelters in effort to put these horrible people out of bussiness by not continuing to go there and spreading the word

And it's a GREAT Thread -

there are so many people here that point others in the right direction but seeing actual evidence of what these dogs go thru is such a tool in education - hard to watch - but still - if no one looks they'll never understand.

way to go Nancy !

I hope many of you understand some of these mills are AKC registered dogs. AKC is part of the problem with their endorsement of commerical breeding facilities.:mad: