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Akina 10-23-2007 11:09 AM

Whatever she is, she has a beautiful eyes, kind eyes.
She may not looks like yorkie but when she grow up, she may become more like yorkie!!
I'm sorry that your breeder wasn't honest. :(

Dorianyorkie 10-23-2007 11:13 AM

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Originally Posted by cgmac12 (Post 1454770)
OK- Let me try this again- Here are some pictures I have put on Photobucket

Edited to add- she is 16 weeks old and weighs just under 5 pounds. Her mom weighed 10 pounds and Dad weighed 6 pounds.

She definetely is NOT a Yorkshire Terrier. Sorry about that. :(

cgmac12 10-23-2007 11:14 AM

Honestly- it just would not have occured to me that someone would lie. Especially since her appearance would cause question to begin with. I am very disappointed in this woman. And yes- I am very upset that we are not going to get our long haired bow wearing puppy- I do love this dog- she is very sweet (even if she is being impossible to housebreak).

I keep holding out hope that she is just going to sprout hair like the breeder told me! For now I guess I will consider her a Chorkie! Hopefully- you guys will still let me hang around here and admire all of your pretty babies!


Crystal

MorkieAZ 10-23-2007 11:23 AM

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Originally Posted by cgmac12 (Post 1455404)
Honestly- it just would not have occured to me that someone would lie. Especially since her appearance would cause question to begin with. I am very disappointed in this woman. And yes- I am very upset that we are not going to get our long haired bow wearing puppy- I do love this dog- she is very sweet (even if she is being impossible to housebreak).

I keep holding out hope that she is just going to sprout hair like the breeder told me! For now I guess I will consider her a Chorkie! Hopefully- you guys will still let me hang around here and admire all of your pretty babies!


Crystal

Don't beat yourself up, there are SO many unscrupulous breeders out there. Many, many people get taken by them. I am one myself, thought I had a purebred Maltese and 5 years later I found out differently. My breeder has since moved and AKC cannot find her, so I have no recourse. I know how frustrating this is, but you should not let her keep getting away with this if at all possible. This irritates me to no end, that people get hurt so often by these dishonest breeders trying to make a buck...UGH!!:mad: I feel for you, just try to enjoy her if you are not going to return her.

Nikki+2 10-23-2007 11:29 AM

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Originally Posted by cgmac12 (Post 1455404)
Honestly- it just would not have occured to me that someone would lie. Especially since her appearance would cause question to begin with. I am very disappointed in this woman. And yes- I am very upset that we are not going to get our long haired bow wearing puppy- I do love this dog- she is very sweet (even if she is being impossible to housebreak).

I keep holding out hope that she is just going to sprout hair like the breeder told me! For now I guess I will consider her a Chorkie! Hopefully- you guys will still let me hang around here and admire all of your pretty babies!


Crystal

If she's giving you trouble with housebreaking, that's a good indication she's a yorkie!:p

I hope you stay with us. I'd love to see how she grows up.

KathyinCali 10-23-2007 11:31 AM

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Originally Posted by cgmac12 (Post 1455404)
Honestly- it just would not have occured to me that someone would lie. Especially since her appearance would cause question to begin with. I am very disappointed in this woman. And yes- I am very upset that we are not going to get our long haired bow wearing puppy- I do love this dog- she is very sweet (even if she is being impossible to housebreak).

I keep holding out hope that she is just going to sprout hair like the breeder told me! For now I guess I will consider her a Chorkie! Hopefully- you guys will still let me hang around here and admire all of your pretty babies!


Crystal

There are many on here with Yorkie mixes! I hope you stay here and share with us!

tpaxton23 10-23-2007 11:41 AM

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Her hair may get longer. It might just grow real slow. I've attached pictures of my yorkie at 17 weeks and then a current picture of him today at about a year and a half. I've been told he is a red legged yorkie. I see a resemblence to your little Sasse. Dylan looked so pitiful as a puppy but turned out to be pretty cute. He also has the sweetest disposition of any dog I've ever had.

alex_143 10-23-2007 11:41 AM

like i said before she looks 100% redleg yorkie to me its just a gene thing that doesnt make her a mix lets not jump to the conclusion that the breeder lied especially if you saw the dad and mom, and she seems willing to work with you

tpaxton23 10-23-2007 11:42 AM

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(even if she is being impossible to housebreak)
This proves she must be a yorkie!!! LOL

cgmac12 10-23-2007 11:44 AM

Ok- so here is a question for the people who are in the "she's a red leg" camp- when will her hair grow?

Is she too big to be considered a yorkie? I know that standard is 6 pounds and under- if she is already 5 pounds at 16 weeks- she is going to be huge!! At what age do they generally get their full height and weight?

alex_143 10-23-2007 11:49 AM

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Originally Posted by tpaxton23 (Post 1455458)
Her hair may get longer. It might just grow real slow. I've attached pictures of my yorkie at 17 weeks and then a current picture of him today at about a year and a half. I've been told he is a red legged yorkie. I see a resemblence to your little Sasse. Dylan looked so pitiful as a puppy but turned out to be pretty cute. He also has the sweetest disposition of any dog I've ever had.

this is a perfect example thank you for posting this :D does every one see the same bone structure i do!!!! your baby will grow hair just give it time!!!

oh and to the person who posted there pics your baby is beautiful!!!!!!:D

myyorkies8 10-23-2007 11:50 AM

fraud
 
she is cute...but not full blooded yorkie. if your daughter loves her thats all that matters...but you can have the breeder prove with dna testing....she didn't know what she was talking about or she was pulling a scam


tricia

alex_143 10-23-2007 11:57 AM

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Originally Posted by cgmac12 (Post 1455467)
Ok- so here is a question for the people who are in the "she's a red leg" camp- when will her hair grow?

Is she too big to be considered a yorkie? I know that standard is 6 pounds and under- if she is already 5 pounds at 16 weeks- she is going to be huge!! At what age do they generally get their full height and weight?

she is not too big to be considered a yorkie the standard is 7pounds and under but there are alot of teapot yorkies we have some members on here who own purebreed yorkies that are up to 20pounds!!! Remember yorkies are like humans they come in all shapes and sizes!!! i beleve they get there full height and weight at about 6months (if im wrong please correct me!!!) but by 1 year they wont grow anymore they will most likely be the height and weight they are and stay that way!!! by the way i think you baby is beautiful she looks so much like my coco!!! lol same face i once took coco to the groomers and they shaved her down i was so mad!!! but she was soo cute lol and people that saw her told me she was a chi and it hurt me i got so offened i guess cause im a over protective mom but she looked just like your baby i will find the pic of her and post for you :D oh yea and welcome to yorkietalk your going to love it here!!!!!!!

alex_143 10-23-2007 11:59 AM

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Originally Posted by tpaxton23 (Post 1455464)
This proves she must be a yorkie!!! LOL

lmao i agree lol

oopsmyhalofello 10-23-2007 12:01 PM

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Originally Posted by cgmac12 (Post 1455467)
Ok- so here is a question for the people who are in the "she's a red leg" camp- when will her hair grow?

Is she too big to be considered a yorkie? I know that standard is 6 pounds and under- if she is already 5 pounds at 16 weeks- she is going to be huge!! At what age do they generally get their full height and weight?

I wish I could answer your question about when will her hair grow, the picture one of the pp's provided of their pup shows that it can end up looking just like you would expect.

Yorkie standard is under 7lbs, there is also no way to know what she will do as far as growth goes. Even if she doesn't meet up to the standard as far as weight and coat goes that doesn't make her any less a yorkie then the next one.

Why not look into getting another pup that fits what you were expecting as far as the Yorkie standards go, then you will be happy.. you will still have your pup that everyone has already fallen in love with and she will have a great companion/fur sister.

hha 10-23-2007 12:03 PM

Don't forget me, I have the 4 lb yorkie, that ended up being 14 lbs..she has lost a pound though....LOL

MorkieAZ 10-23-2007 12:03 PM

By the yorkie weight chart, it shows she will be over 7 lbs.

hha 10-23-2007 12:06 PM

And, mine did keep growing after 6 mos..which, she should have slown down, but she kept growing and growing..she probably grew until she was about 2 1/2 or 3 years old, but, this I believe, is very unusual

alex_143 10-23-2007 12:15 PM

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here's an example with people....

both parents at mixed black and white and look mostly black they have a set of twins one turns out completly white and the other black..... if you asked people if the white one was black every one would say nooooo that she came from diff parents blah blah blah when in reality she has the same genes as her black sister she just looks diff lol just like your baby she has siblings that look full on yorkies and she came out diff that doesnt make her a mix come on people lets think outside the box i posted a pic of my example of a real life couple this happened to with there twins!!!!!!

ARCHIE 10-23-2007 12:15 PM

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Originally Posted by hha (Post 1455528)
And, mine did keep growing after 6 mos..which, she should have slown down, but she kept growing and growing..she probably grew until she was about 2 1/2 or 3 years old, but, this I believe, is very unusual

Must be something with the larger Yorkies. Buddy grew until he was
3yrs. He was 13lbs for two yrs and he weighed in last May at 15lbs.
I am still hoping the Vet's scale was wrong.

a_jgonzalez 10-23-2007 12:18 PM

Im sorry tomsay this but you got scammed, Your pup is def a mix. It is still very cute and bless you for keeping it god knows there are plenty of dogs at the shelter, and for the same reason. You should do something about getting your $$$ back.

MorkieAZ 10-23-2007 12:21 PM

Not all yorkies stop growing at 6 months..one of my yorkies continued to grow after the first year also. She is now 7 lbs.

Tiggerwit 10-23-2007 12:46 PM

I would say she's a mix based off the photo. Short story is, you guys have a wonderful puppy that you all adore and love and that's what it was all about. Now we get to watch her grow and be spoiled. Congrats on the new edition.

addicted 10-23-2007 01:17 PM

my boy didn't stop growing until he was pretty much a year old, but that was because he's so tiny... he's only 3 1/2 lbs. Does your yorkie shed like the short coated dogs?

Cathi 10-23-2007 01:56 PM

I think that it
 
may havemixed with fox terrier. I have never seen a yorkie like that.
I believe you should have the puppy tested to prove that what they told you see true. If the puppy is not pureblood consider sueing.

BabyFidgette 10-23-2007 01:59 PM

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Originally Posted by cgmac12 (Post 1454864)
Ugh- this is what I was afraid of! I keep trying to convince myself that she will turn into a yorkie any day, lol.

The people that I bought her from were very, very nice. There were 5 puppies total in the litter. She actually had a pictue of the litter and Sassy was the only one that did not look like a typical yorkie. The mom and dad were the only two dogs at the house. Sassy was the only puppy left when we got there.

I guess it is my fault for believing them. I saw the picture she was saying was the dad as a puppy, and I wanted to believe it. I even called back a few days later and told her that people just were not believing she was a yorkie and she was so emphatic that she really was a Yorkie.

Like I said- it is no matter- my kiddos love her now- but truthfully- I really longed for a true Yorkie. Does anyone think she has any Yorkie in her at all?

I guess it is true that Papers really don't mean anything!

Crystal

She does look like she has Yorkie in her. But to me she looks like a mix. Sorry you got had. She is a cutie, though! You'll just have to get her a Yorkie playmate. :D

Lorraine 10-23-2007 03:25 PM

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Originally Posted by alex_143 (Post 1455070)
http://dandugmore.netfirms.com/color.html

Your dog if it had no hair, but only had skin pigment showing, would have the exact required color pattern on it's skin as written in the standard. All the way from the back of it's head, down it's neck to the root of it's tail there will be blue skin. The shade will correspond with the depth of the dog's blue hair. The blue skin extends down the forelegs to above the stifle. The end of the dog's tail would have a darker blue tip than the dog's back color.


go read up ppl!!!! especially if the other pups look like yorkies and this one came out diff it just a gene thing and im sticking to that oh and here's a pic of coco after her bath is not that good but you can see they have the same shape face/ bone structure!!!!

This is not a purebred the original poster got. I do pet grooming on a Yorkie Shih Tzu mix and the colour pattern is exactly that of a Yorkie. However the coat is kind of like a thinner Yorkie coat but structure including ears is Shih Tzu.
If both parents look like yorkies but actually are mixed breeds, then in the whelping box breeding the two parents is where it will show up that this is not from two bona fide purebred parents.
I also once groomed a Yorkie/Maltese cross that you would be sure was a purebred Yorkie but was not. You would find out that is wasn't when you bred it even if it was to a pb Yorkie, it would produce pups not looking like a Yorkie even just one while others in the litter may look Yorkie.

MyFairLacy 10-23-2007 03:51 PM

I don't think she's a purebred yorkie at all. I agree with Lorraine that the parents are probably mixes that just look like yorkies. The one with AKC papers may not even have been purebred if it came from a BYB who registered it as coming from two purebred parents - that happens all the time. Her hair looks VERY short - no long hair at all on the face...honestly, I think she will always be a short-haired dog.

I'm originally from New Boston and my parents still live there? Who did you get your dog from? I know one lady from Sims that breeds yorkies, schnazuers, and min-pins

alex_143 10-23-2007 04:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Lorraine (Post 1455976)
This is not a purebred the original poster got. I do pet grooming on a Yorkie Shih Tzu mix and the colour pattern is exactly that of a Yorkie. However the coat is kind of like a thinner Yorkie coat but structure including ears is Shih Tzu.
If both parents look like yorkies but actually are mixed breeds, then in the whelping box breeding the two parents is where it will show up that this is not from two bona fide purebred parents.
I also once groomed a Yorkie/Maltese cross that you would be sure was a purebred Yorkie but was not. You would find out that is wasn't when you bred it even if it was to a pb Yorkie, it would produce pups not looking like a Yorkie even just one while others in the litter may look Yorkie.

Okay my coco has the same face and body structure does that make her a yorkie shih tzu mix???? Nooo she's a pure breed there are yorkies that are up to 20 pounds does that make them silkies noooo my coco is 7 pounds and people always say she's a mix because according to them she is big but she's within standard what we need to realise is that not all yorkies look alike if you saw a blue yorkie would you call that a mix too no I think not they just look diff but are pure yorkies just like the all gold yorkies so gold they look almost orange are they mixes nope they are pure breed a lot or people have said that red legs are mixes but there not its a gene defect I'm sure if people would have seen the pics that were posted on here early of the red leg pup they would have said it was a mix to but did u see the pic of it now it grew hair yes it took a long long time but it turned out to be yorkie.... take my example with humans would you have said the whit twin doesn't belong to the parents because the black and she came out completly white no we have to keep an open mind I'll post a pic of me and my brother so you can see how diff we look yet we came from the same parents I just need to get on the computer because I'm on my friends celly

TootiesMom 10-23-2007 05:19 PM

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Originally Posted by cgmac12 (Post 1455404)
Honestly- it just would not have occured to me that someone would lie. Especially since her appearance would cause question to begin with. I am very disappointed in this woman. And yes- I am very upset that we are not going to get our long haired bow wearing puppy- I do love this dog- she is very sweet (even if she is being impossible to housebreak).

I keep holding out hope that she is just going to sprout hair like the breeder told me! For now I guess I will consider her a Chorkie! Hopefully- you guys will still let me hang around here and admire all of your pretty babies!


Crystal

I got "taken" the first time around too...by the sweetest thing ever!!! Tootie is 16.5 lbs of pure LOVE! He is the sweetest thing and so so special to me! He brings so much joy to my life I wouldnt know what to do without him... I still had to have my "yorkie" fix so Tootie got a baby sister! Now I have my"yorkie" and my "yorkie".. LOL
I wouldnt trade my baby boy for anything in this world!
I am very glad that you love here anyway... she is very sweet looking, and just for the record, she does have the yorkie look....
d


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