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mizzwanned 09-06-2007 10:45 AM

I used to think it's cruel but now not so much. I know they don't ask for it but babies also don't ask for their ears to be pierced and they forget about the pain, it's very quick. My mom had my ear's pierced when i was 9 months old, and not only 1 hole in each ear but 3. Now at 20 they never close, never hurt, never got infected and im thankful cause i don't remember the pain and i like them. Mother's pierce their baby's ears all the time. Ppl at my age now want to do it but it hurts them and takes time to heal. Anyway i think it can be used as identifying purposes also, like a tattoo. I knew a girl that had her dog's ear pierced and he left it there, didn't mess with it. I don't think it hurts them much but if you dog doesn't like things on their ears that could be a problem. You would have to train them to leave it on.

Yorkieluv 09-06-2007 10:49 AM

I had my ears pierced as a baby too, and I'm happy with that :) I'm not against piercing babies' ears, just dogs ears.

vainchick5 09-06-2007 10:49 AM

I think it's cruel and very unnecessary. Human's are different because our skin is not like dogs, especially on the ears. Babies don't normally spend any time scratching their ears with sharp body parts the way dogs scratch their ears with their sharp nails. Babies don't play rough the way dogs do. Also dogs have MANY MANY veins in their ears, so the ears bleed easily. Trust me, I knicked my yorkies ear once a TINY TINY bit and it bled FOREVER. I don't think it's cute, it's very cruel, and I think Tattoes are too. Dogs are not meant to have their body parts pierced, I think that is going way too far. A dog is not an accessory or a toy to play with and make it look like barbie. I think dressing them up should be as far as it should go, JMPO. At least when you dress them up, it's not hurting them and it's not cruel.

yorkieK9trainer 09-06-2007 11:23 AM

vain, a dog should not scratch it ear often enough for them to cause injury to themselves or the ear ring.
A healthy ear itches minimally. No more than an infant discovering something attached to their ear because of sensitivity or just because there's something new there and potentially scratching themselves with their little nails.


That's how I view it. I really see very little difference between the two and both can be taken care of afterwards very similarly.

If you're to pierce, clearly do it at the base of the ear where it nears the skull.

wemple2 09-06-2007 11:25 AM

Interesting subject...I have never thought about piercing, but I have thought about tattooing...for identification purposes only, as a matter of fact I have asked for opinions on this. I would not personally pierce Winston's ear, but I also don't see any thing wrong with those that would. He doesn't wear clothes either...so to each his own opinion.

PEACHES917 09-06-2007 11:35 AM

Earring
 
I think you should not do this, Just get her a sparkle collar. It might become infected or get torn out. :confused:

vainchick5 09-06-2007 11:56 AM

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Originally Posted by yorkieK9trainer (Post 1354346)
vain, a dog should not scratch it ear often enough for them to cause injury to themselves or the ear ring.
A healthy ear itches minimally. No more than an infant discovering something attached to their ear because of sensitivity or just because there's something new there and potentially scratching themselves with their little nails.


That's how I view it. I really see very little difference between the two and both can be taken care of afterwards very similarly.

If you're to pierce, clearly do it at the base of the ear where it nears the skull.

We can agree to disagree :D While a healthy normal dog might have minimal itches/scratches, their minimal scratching action can cause infections and damage. I don't agree with babies having their ears pierced either but it is a lot safer and more common to have a babies ears pierced than a dog. There's no reason to try to turn a dog into a human. Dogs are not meant to have anything pierced for our amusement. In my opinion, it's cruel.

MIZBROWN 09-06-2007 11:58 AM

Wow
 
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Originally Posted by vainchick5 (Post 1354283)
I think it's cruel and very unnecessary. Human's are different because our skin is not like dogs, especially on the ears. Babies don't normally spend any time scratching their ears with sharp body parts the way dogs scratch their ears with their sharp nails. Babies don't play rough the way dogs do. Also dogs have MANY MANY veins in their ears, so the ears bleed easily. Trust me, I knicked my yorkies ear once a TINY TINY bit and it bled FOREVER. I don't think it's cute, it's very cruel, and I think Tattoes are too. Dogs are not meant to have their body parts pierced, I think that is going way too far. A dog is not an accessory or a toy to play with and make it look like barbie. I think dressing them up should be as far as it should go, JMPO. At least when you dress them up, it's not hurting them and it's not cruel.

WOW... WHAT A SUBJECT! I really appreciate everyones very different views. However, I think some of you might get this picture of a dog with a hoop earring in the ear or something, cause everyones concern is that it will get torn out. The chances of a stud earring getting torn out - are SLIM. And quite frankly, my dog never just plays with her ears - they dont have fingers... soooo, HOW CAN THEY TAKE IT OUT ?!? Cant speak on something that you havent seen a dog do! My kid plays harder than my dog!!! A child actually has fingers and the ability to take an earring out - but do they!!! Not likely... Some people consider their pups their children... and quite frankly my daughter had her ears pierced as a baby - so why shouldnt my other baby (if thats what I wanted)? And how do you know if dressing a dog doesnt hurt them - do they talk to you? Nope! Its your opinion and mine is - To each his own...

vainchick5 09-06-2007 12:04 PM

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Originally Posted by MIZBROWN (Post 1354429)
WOW... WHAT A SUBJECT! I really appreciate everyones very different views. However, I think some of you might get this picture of a dog with a hoop earring in the ear or something, cause everyones concern is that it will get torn out. The chances of a stud earring getting torn out - are SLIM. And quite frankly, my dog never just plays with her ears - they dont have fingers... soooo, HOW CAN THEY TAKE IT OUT ?!? Cant speak on something that you havent seen a dog do! My kid plays harder than my dog!!! A child actually has fingers and the ability to take an earring out - but do they!!! Not likely... Some people consider their pups their children... and quite frankly my daughter had her ears pierced as a baby - so why shouldnt my other baby (if thats what I wanted)? And how do you know if dressing a dog doesnt hurt them - do they talk to you? Nope! Its your opinion and mine is - To each his own...

Like I said in my other post it was MY PERSONAL OPINION. In MY opinion it's cruel. There is absolutely no point whatsoever to pierce a dogs ear, other than for your amusement and for attention from others (not you personally in general). I think it's sick but you can do whatever you like :) I know clothes don't hurt them because 1. They don't bleed when clothes are on them 2. They don't cry when clothes are on them 3. They don't need to have any special medical treatments when clothes are on them. So no, they don't talk to me, but common sense observations show that clothes do not hurt them, at least not to my dogs anyway.

Yorkieluv 09-06-2007 12:09 PM

Yes, everyone has their own views, and I think we should all agree to disagree :) But I have to say that putting a hole in a dog's ears is nothing like putting an article of clothing on them. My dogs go wild when I pull out their clothes for them to wear. They love getting dressed. I doubt they would get excited about a stud earring.
I treat my dogs like children, but I can't deny the fact that they are dogs. There's nothing wrong with that. But like you said, to each his own. I'm not saying that we shouldn't all make our own choices, just sharing my views. That way when people read this thread, they see all the different opinions out there :)

wemple2 09-06-2007 12:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Yorkieluv (Post 1354456)
Yes, everyone has their own views, and I think we should all agree to disagree :) But I have to say that putting a hole in a dog's ears is nothing like putting an article of clothing on them. My dogs go wild when I pull out their clothes for them to wear. They love getting dressed. I doubt they would get excited about a stud earring.
I treat my dogs like children, but I can't deny the fact that they are dogs. There's nothing wrong with that. But like you said, to each his own. I'm not saying that we shouldn't all make our own choices, just sharing my views. That way when people read this thread, they see all the different opinions out there :)

Well put, very tactful...it is each dog owners right to their opinions and to voice those opinions is okay by me. The world is made up of many different views, choices and opinions...if not...that would be cruel.

Jane 09-06-2007 12:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Bebubb (Post 1353587)
Hi, thanks for all the replies, I also think that it might get ripped when she play around. I would rather not do it and was just wondering if it was ever done.

Thanks:p


I would think that it could be ripped :eek: out too. What I like to do is to use nice hair pieces and pretty collars. It make them look really special.

Catrina 09-06-2007 02:09 PM

im sorry but i really think its a bad idea...

why do it? just cuz its "cute" or "different"?? its just like that whole thing with putting diamonds in someone's teeth..

i just think hurting an animal intentionally just cuz its "cute" is stupid sorry

Catrina 09-06-2007 02:10 PM

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Originally Posted by vainchick5 (Post 1354442)
Like I said in my other post it was MY PERSONAL OPINION. In MY opinion it's cruel. There is absolutely no point whatsoever to pierce a dogs ear, other than for your amusement and for attention from others (not you personally in general). I think it's sick but you can do whatever you like :) I know clothes don't hurt them because 1. They don't bleed when clothes are on them 2. They don't cry when clothes are on them 3. They don't need to have any special medical treatments when clothes are on them. So no, they don't talk to me, but common sense observations show that clothes do not hurt them, at least not to my dogs anyway.

agree :thumbup:

zoeybear 09-06-2007 02:11 PM

I wouldn't do it, but I did want to see a pic. I couldn't find one on the internet. Thankfully, It must not be a very popular thing to do.

Catrina 09-06-2007 02:12 PM

btw i just think its funny cuz recently after reading the article someone posted about dogs getting plastic surgery to "enhance" their looks i was telling my friend "whats next.. earrings?".. and here it actually came...

whats next? getting contacts to change a dog's eye color? :rolleyes:

vainchick5 09-06-2007 02:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Catrina (Post 1354685)
btw i just think its funny cuz recently after reading the article someone posted about dogs getting plastic surgery to "enhance" their looks i was telling my friend "whats next.. earrings?".. and here it actually came...

whats next? getting contacts to change a dog's eye color? :rolleyes:

I'm sure someone is already thinking of yet another GENIUS idea like that. They already have fake testicles for neutered dogs. I guess I just don't get why anyone would want a pet if they are going to turn around and try to make it into their own barbie doll or accessory and cause pain to a defenseless animal. Just weird to me.

Catrina 09-06-2007 02:24 PM

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Originally Posted by vainchick5 (Post 1354709)
I'm sure someone is already thinking of yet another GENIUS idea like that. They already have fake testicles for neutered dogs. I guess I just don't get why anyone would want a pet if they are going to turn around and try to make it into their own barbie doll or accessory and cause pain to a defenseless animal. Just weird to me.

agree :thumbup: :thumbup:

BabyFidgette 09-06-2007 02:34 PM

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Originally Posted by chachi (Post 1354172)
I wouldnt get a dogs ears pierced. I think it is cruel and unecessary. What if they got it caught on something


Honestly, I don't think it's "cruel", yet I wouldn't do it. BUT think of this...yes, we humans who have our ears pierced have to worry about it getting ripped out just as a dog would. But dogs would be more apt to scratch it off, hence ripping it out. And what about the after care? You'd have to twist it and clean it with hydrogen peroxide and put on Neosporin. :eek: And then what if it gets infected? If it does and/or starts itching when it begins to heal, guaranteed the dog will try to scratch it! So, in conclusion, I don't think it's cruel per say, unnecessary worrying and ultra bothersome to the dog, yes. ;)

BabyFidgette 09-06-2007 02:38 PM

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Originally Posted by alex_143 (Post 1354224)
i think you should do it it would be a great way of identifiying

Well, maybe not. Who's to say that a dog's ear hole wouldn't close up quickly? I know the ear is not a muscle, but look at human tongue piercings. They close up very fast when a stud is removed. But, I guess we won't know unless somebody does it. :p

alisonJ 09-06-2007 02:39 PM

sorry, but I think it's a crazy idea.
 
Clothes serve a purpose (warmth).
Collars/harnesses serve a purpose (identification).
Shoes serve a purpose (warmth and foot protection).
Even tattoos serve a purpose (identification).
Top knots serve a purpose (keeping hair from irritating eyes).

A stud earring serves no purpose except to fit a person's idea of what beauty should be. Your Yorkie is beautiful already. :( I suggest that if you like stud earrings, get another one for yourself. Don't inflict this on your dog.

vainchick5 09-06-2007 02:46 PM

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Originally Posted by alisonJ (Post 1354735)
Clothes serve a purpose (warmth).
Collars/harnesses serve a purpose (identification).
Shoes serve a purpose (warmth and foot protection).
Even tattoos serve a purpose (identification).
Top knots serve a purpose (keeping hair from irritating eyes).

A stud earring serves no purpose except to fit a person's idea of what beauty should be. Your Yorkie is beautiful already. :( I suggest that if you like stud earrings, get another one for yourself. Don't inflict this on your dog.

:thumbup: :thumbup:

nancy137738 09-06-2007 02:59 PM

I know a man that has his great danes ears pierced..
Nancy,Sami and Lily

MIZBROWN 09-06-2007 03:04 PM

I DISAGREE w/ the comment above (alisonj)... CLOTHES SERVE WHAT PURPOSE - A dog has its own coat for warmth ?!? And a lot of us dress them whether its cold or hot... Shoes serve NO PURPOSE either... Earrings have the same purpose as clothes and definately shoes - which is because U want it, not your dog... I mean if our pups could speak, Im sure they would tell us all they dont want any of it (ie,top knots,clothes,shoes,tail cutting,spayed etc...) Im sure there was a time, that a bow on a dog was "inhumane" or cruel to some, but now we look at it as normal... Bottom line is that - the times are changing... be open to change.... What can you do ??? Nodda!

Rae Rae 09-06-2007 03:30 PM

I would never pierce my dogs ears because I'm sure it can hurt them while it's being done...and I would never experience my dogs to go through pain for beauty (even though that's very common for humans to do :p ). Also, like others mentioned, what if it gets ripped out?

Rae Rae 09-06-2007 03:32 PM

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Originally Posted by MIZBROWN (Post 1354775)
I DISAGREE w/ the comment above (alisonj)... CLOTHES SERVE WHAT PURPOSE - A dog has its own coat for warmth ?!? And a lot of us dress them whether its cold or hot... Shoes serve NO PURPOSE either... Earrings have the same purpose as clothes and definately shoes - which is because U want it, not your dog... I mean if our pups could speak, Im sure they would tell us all they dont want any of it (ie,top knots,clothes,shoes,tail cutting,spayed etc...) Im sure there was a time, that a bow on a dog was "inhumane" or cruel to some, but now we look at it as normal... Bottom line is that - the times are changing... be open to change.... What can you do ??? Nodda!

Yorkies only have one coat, like the hair on your head. When it's cold out, you still gotta wear a hat to keep warm...it's the same thing. Especially my bella, she has no hair and freezes w/ the AC on...so people can say that putting clothes on dogs serves no purpose, but from my experience it does. Also, Rocky LOVES to get dressed...he gets excited when I pull out his clothes, and if he's naked and sees his clothes he'll bring them up to me to put on him. So I'm sure if he could talk, he would say "Mommy I'm naked..I need clothes!!"

Txgurl06 09-06-2007 03:35 PM

lol i guess i will put my 2 cents in

i used to think dressing dogs was soo dumb but then i got my yorkies and I began to do it and now i feel differently about it. But i do admit that i dont do it to keep them warm i mean yeah like i jacket or raincoat for winter or when its raining to keep them warm but in the summer we dress them in pretty dresses and swimsuits.


Ear piercing i cant say i would do it to my dogs but i dont think people are cruel for doing it but it is for looks even tho it may set your dog apart for identification purposes it is mainly for looks just like clothes.

I dont think its too much different then tail docking or ear cutting. But i do find it different then a humans ear. We hopefully bathe more than we bathe our dogs lol so therefore they run close to the ground and get dirt and all kinds of things on their ears and it sometimes sits till the next week (if you bathe once a week) even if you do clean it, if all the other hair on his body is dirty then its gonna get dirty all over. So im not saying its a bad idea but i do think its more prone for infection and/or slower healing.

BamaFan121s 09-06-2007 03:47 PM

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Originally Posted by vainchick5 (Post 1354442)
Like I said in my other post it was MY PERSONAL OPINION. In MY opinion it's cruel. There is absolutely no point whatsoever to pierce a dogs ear, other than for your amusement and for attention from others (not you personally in general). I think it's sick but you can do whatever you like :) I know clothes don't hurt them because 1. They don't bleed when clothes are on them 2. They don't cry when clothes are on them 3. They don't need to have any special medical treatments when clothes are on them. So no, they don't talk to me, but common sense observations show that clothes do not hurt them, at least not to my dogs anyway.

I agree!:thumbup:
I have never heard of such...I actually thought this was a joke when I read the title. Identification purposes? Try microchipping.

BubblPopElectrc 09-06-2007 03:49 PM

Pierce yourself and leave the dog alone. :)

gutu28 09-06-2007 04:24 PM

Haha..I really thought this was a joke, too! Why in the WORLD would you do something UNNECESSARY and PAINFUL to your dog because you think it's "cute?" I can't believe half of the people on here agree with it or think it would be ok!

And I can't seem to figure out how dressing up a dog might be PAINFUL?!


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