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Emmsmom 09-15-2007 05:50 AM
If you go to the AKC website Liver/Tan is not even an option under the colors. I know that when I registered Diesel 2 years ago liver/tan wasn't an option then. Just make sure that you aren't paying an arm and leg for chocolates. I wouldn't pay more than 6 or 700 tops for one. I have seen a few choclolates that were simply adorable. From my understanding (i am no expert lol) Choclates shouldn't be bred because the color is a fault.

That being said if you find a Chocolate that tugs at your heart by all means scoop them up and take them home. lol

BamaFan121s 09-15-2007 09:48 AM
To answer your questions, a chocolate yorkie is nothing more than a yorkie with a color abnormality. Doesn't mean they aren't really Yorkies, doesn't mean they are sickly.

You are correct--pups should not be placed until they are older. 7-8 weeks is too young, even if they are healthy, even if they are weaned, is still TOO YOUNG!

Because of all the factors you've mentioned, I would be very cautious about this 'breeder.' The things you have stated are not exactly aspects that ethical, respected breeders flaunt or stive for or practice.:)

littlewhip 09-15-2007 11:54 AM
I love to see all the pics of all colors:D everyones babies are so cute:D I dont know a thing about colors:rolleyes: mine are tan/black and now molly looks like she is will be silver:) heck give me a purple yorkie and im happy;)

Emmsmom 09-15-2007 12:52 PM
I have to disagree here... If everyone keeps breeding off color yorkies then the standard Yorkie as we know it won't be around. Biewers are different. There is a standard for them. Soon you will see them registered by AKC.

buddybramble 09-15-2007 01:03 PM
there are some beautiful yorkies owned by YT members on here that are white, parti or chocolate, they in no way 'ruin' the yorkie breed. There will be many people on this site that will tell you they would love to own one. to say breeding them and owning one spoils the breed makes you sound narrow minded.
It always seems to be the same as soon as someone mentions parti or chocolate yorkies someone always leaps in and tries to spoil the thread by spilling out the same old stuff about 'shouldn't be bred' 'spoiling breed' etc
if you feel you are talking to a brick wall, please continue to do so i'm sure it will be far more interested than members on here who are just here to gain info and help and share pics of all our beautiful babies in ALL their different shapes sizes and colours.

Emmsmom 09-15-2007 01:13 PM
You have your opinion and I and others have our own. We will have to agree to disagree because I am not willing participate in a heated argument. I have been around the board long enough to know that it serves no purpose and just makes you look silly.

diggy4 09-15-2007 01:30 PM
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Originally Posted by buddybramble (Post 1371635)
sorry emmsmom i hadnt even seen your post i wasnt responding to you.

i agree with you, but please just read back to where yorkiekist suddenly entered the thread apparently in a rage with lots of !!!!!!!!! lol

i thought owning dogs was supposed to be relaxing and calming :)
Buddy, it should be calming and will be if you learn to take some opinions for what they are. The OP is about buying a chocolate and someone trying to get educated about just that. It was stated the chocolate would be spayed, not for breeding and bought for 600$ So how this turned into another heated thread about chocolate yorkies is beyond me..... Keep asking your questions, get educated and form your OWN opinions...This really is a nice place...Im sorry if you feel attacked or the rath of rage as you stated.

Christmas is just over 3 months away!

Nikki+2 09-15-2007 01:31 PM
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Originally Posted by yorkiekist (Post 1371486)
There go all those money hungry chocolate,parti,white breeders again. Cute, but not correct and should not be bred period!!!!! Lets just ruin the Yorkie breed that generations of responsible breeders have worked so hard to create. Its not an AKC standard and not a UKC standard either. They cant be shown and their ancestery is iffy. But, thanks to the YTCA, the AKC will not recognize them to be shown. I know, I am talking to a brick wall.

There are a lot of varying and quite strong opinions on this and it comes up now and them. You are new and so not aware but fortunately for the most part our members are able to discuss it without being accusing and disrespectful.
I'm not sure if that is how you are used to getting your point across but it probably wont work here.;)

YorkyDiva 09-15-2007 01:31 PM
Try to change your thinking and think of the different colors as the wave of the future in which the Yorkie standard will become enriched with COLOR!

buddybramble 09-15-2007 02:00 PM
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Originally Posted by diggy4 (Post 1371654)
Buddy, it should be calming and will be if you learn to take some opinions for what they are. The OP is about buying a chocolate and someone trying to get educated about just that. It was stated the chocolate would be spayed, not for breeding and bought for 600$ So how this turned into another heated thread about chocolate yorkies is beyond me..... Keep asking your questions, get educated and form your OWN opinions...This really is a nice place...Im sorry if you feel attacked or the rath of rage as you stated.

Christmas is just over 3 months away!
Hi diggy, its ok i didnt feel attacked i'm far too laid back for that... but as for christmas only being 3 months away, now that really scares the life out of me! :)

diggy4 09-15-2007 02:02 PM
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Originally Posted by buddybramble (Post 1371687)
Hi diggy, its ok i didnt feel attacked i'm far too laid back for that... but as for christmas only being 3 months away, now that really scares the life out of me! :)

I know!!! Just trying to make ya smile :D

yorkiekist 09-15-2007 04:57 PM
choc
 
I think I was the one disrespected by being called narrow-minded. But breeding "odd" colored yorkies is what it is and the Yorkie will never be "enriched" with color, unless its steel blue and shaded tan. If I came off as rude or hostile, sorry.I didnt know that !!!!! was being rude. The AKC standard is what breeders are supposed to strive for. Or so I thought before I looked at YT. I least the person buying the Choc is not paying 5 arms and 10 legs.

Miley's mom 09-16-2007 08:24 AM
chocolate
 
To the original poster ...if you like the chocolate yorkie, go for it! now 6-7 weeks old for new homes , it's too young , I would be concern right there.
the price of $600 I think is great....make sure the puppy looks happy and healthy and if they can give you some sort of health warranty to at least until it gets checked by a vet.
I myself stick to the AKC standard but respect other breeders no matter what their beliefs are or breeding program they have . :)

Good Luck

diggy4 09-16-2007 05:17 PM
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Originally Posted by Miley's mom (Post 1373037)
To the original poster ...if you like the chocolate yorkie, go for it! now 6-7 weeks old for new homes , it's too young , I would be concern right there.
the price of $600 I think is great....make sure the puppy looks happy and healthy and if they can give you some sort of health warranty to at least until it gets checked by a vet.
I myself stick to the AKC standard but respect other breeders no matter what their beliefs are or breeding program they have . :)

Good Luck
Good post !

Carpe diem 10-15-2016 05:01 PM
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Originally Posted by YorkyDiva (Post 1327298)
I don't know the circumstances with your chocolate, if that is what you are saying you have. But if you have AKC papers and it is truly a chocolate, the breeder should have written in Liver/tan underneath the traditional colors. Then you take pictures and send with the papers to the Special Services at AKC and your Dog will be registered as Liver/Tan.
No, Liver/Tan is not an acceptable "show" color in the Yorkies. Maybe someday it will be.
Chocolate or Liver is mutant in any breed that has that color, say Lab or Chihuahua or Schnauzer. That does not make it a bad thing if you are only looking at color or mutation.
And I would say the quality of the Yorkie would determine the price of the puppy. And as anyone knows Great Quality, Health and availability determine price in any situation.
Also, please do not be fooled by those that have the blue/tan born puppies that will grow to be hairless. Many people who are novice breeders think they have a chocolate when a puppy is born with the blue/tan and in a few weeks the tan part grows, but the blue eventually falls out and never grows back.
A chocolate/tan Yorkie has a pink nose and amber eyes and is truly chocolate from birth. Some do lighten up in color as they age and are almost a pink Champagne color in the saddle part of their hair coat.

BLowry, I would be happy to help you with your registration if you need me, PM me. Or you can call AKC. A lot of times they have the straight answers for you when others can only guess at the procedure of how things are done.


My Jasper looks like your pics!


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