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lara2913 08-17-2007 03:35 AM
puppy_Love08, theres no need to get so up tight. I expressed my opionion and you expressed yours, we are both entitled to do so. Lets just leave it at that.

trini&coco 08-17-2007 09:05 AM
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Originally Posted by lara2913 (Post 1312417)
puppy_Love08, theres no need to get so up tight. I expressed my opionion and you expressed yours, we are both entitled to do so. Lets just leave it at that.
:bravo: :bravo: :bravo:

daso 08-17-2007 10:19 AM
he does not hurt or hit dogs so it would be foolish on anyones part to accuse him of that. And nobody is being uptight they are simply correcting a false outlook that some of you have at his techniques.

lara2913 08-17-2007 10:25 AM
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Originally Posted by daso (Post 1313158)
he does not hurt or hit dogs so it would be foolish on anyones part to accuse him of that. And nobody is being uptight they are simply correcting a false outlook that some of you have at his techniques.
False... in your opinion. I am entiteld to post my opinion, as are you. Theres no need to critisise someone just because they have different views to you.

trini&coco 08-17-2007 10:29 AM
I agree with Lara2913...We all see things differently and our views are all relative to our experiences and what we believe in. We are all entitled to our opinions and should not put anyone down for theirs, or call anyones opinion foolish, so lets agree to disagree and move on. :p

daso 08-17-2007 10:29 AM
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Originally Posted by lara2913 (Post 1313175)
False... in your opinion. I am entiteld to post my opinion, as are you. Theres no need to critisise someone just because they have different views to you.
who is critisising you? nobody. The problem is your assumptions and opinions of him are proven to be false, so yes have your opinion but it does not change the fact that its wrong. You are accusing someone of being uptight which they were not, now your accusing me of critisising you when I didnt??? I think you need to stop putting words in people mouth as your coming off like you want to start an argument.

daso 08-17-2007 10:30 AM
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Originally Posted by trini&coco (Post 1313184)
I agree with Lara2913...We all see things differently and our views are all relative to our experiences and what we believe in. We are all entitled to our opinions and should not put anyone down for theirs, or call anyones opinion foolish, so lets agree to disagree and move on. :p
The only reason I call them foolish is because they are false.

lara2913 08-17-2007 10:37 AM
I am not trying to start an argument, thats the last thing I want to do. I just don't think you have a right to call peoples opinions false. For something to be false you have to have factual evidence backed up by studies, and as nobody has observed Ceaser Milan for every single minute of his life, that is impossible.

I have never said that yours or anyone else on heres opionions are false, i just don't agree with some of them. I don't mind that you do not agree with me, if everyone had the same views life would be boring.

trini&coco 08-17-2007 10:51 AM
Daso, apparantly you do not understand how in a public board we all have our own opinions. Agree to disagree :p , nobody is critisizing you for saying it's acceptable to handle a dog the way Cezar does. We accept your opinion for what it is, even though the both of us agree with it, that's all. No need to make this anything more than it is, different people, different views.

Someone also said the people who do not believe in his discipline are probably the people with misbehaved dogs. I am sorry but I do not agree with that all my fur-babies are very well behaved and I am one who does not agree with his methods. :rolleyes:

daso 08-17-2007 10:58 AM
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Originally Posted by trini&coco (Post 1313232)
Daso, apparantly you do not understand how in a public board we all have our own opinions. Agree to disagree :p , nobody is critisizing you for saying it's acceptable to handle a dog the way Cezar does. We accept your opinion for what it is, even though the both of us agree with it, that's all. No need to make this anything more than it is, different people, different views.

Someone also said the people who do not believe in his discipline are probably the people with misbehaved dogs. I am sorry but I do not agree with that all my fur-babies are very well behaved and I am one who does not agree with his methods. :rolleyes:
yes I do understand that in a public board people have opinions however when opinions suggest that this man is hurting or hits his dogs and that being false its not right.

So I guess I can accuse anyone here of being a puppymill breeder just cause its my opinion and I should not expect and negative feedback because is a Public board and we all have opinions? sorry what you are saying to me does not make sense. Its a public board so if someone from the public decides to make false comments or have untrue opinions on somebody they should expect to be corrected and If they cant take it then thats fine.

puppy_Love08 08-17-2007 11:07 AM
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Originally Posted by trini&coco (Post 1311011)
I would be happy if one of my babies bit him after he "handled" them like that! :thumbdown But to each his own, I just don't like it...
This statement says a lot about why you don't agree with his methods. Cesar did not "handle" the dogs in a harmful way. This is the way a dog pack leader would act. And it works.

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Also, the dogs calmed down only because they were afraid of HIM- IMO
And the dog wouldn't be afraid of another dog who "handled" him that way? You bet he would be!

One thing I have observed about Cesar and his pack is that they respect him. Dog owners who can't control their dogs do not have respect.

puppy_Love08 08-17-2007 11:11 AM
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Originally Posted by lara2913 (Post 1313202)
For something to be false you have to have factual evidence backed up by studies, and as nobody has observed Ceaser Milan for every single minute of his life, that is impossible.

I have never said that yours or anyone else on heres opionions are false, i just don't agree with some of them. I don't mind that you do not agree with me, if everyone had the same views life would be boring.
Lara, you said that you would never "hit or hurt a dog," insinuating that Cesar does or has. That is what is false.

If you look at all the books on dog training, you will notice quite a variety of methods. However, there is one common FACT about dog training and that is the human must establish himself as the pack leader. This is part of understanding the nature of dogs. They are not humans and, therefore, cannot be treated like humans.

The "facts" are that Cesar has had an incredible amount of success rehabilitating dogs without hitting them or hurting them. He has not created fear in these dogs, because if he had, the dogs' behavior towards him would indicate fear rather than respect. Instead, the dogs show him respect.

puppy_Love08 08-17-2007 11:49 AM
Time Of The Show Today
 
By the way, the show with the Yorkie is on at 4 p.m. Eastern, 3 p.m. Central, which is about 15 minutes away from now.

trini&coco 08-17-2007 12:35 PM
You are out of control :confused: ...we are all entitled to our opinions and that's all I am going to say at this point...

Maybe admin should close this thread...it has gotten way off subject and not staying "nice" :rolleyes:

daso 08-17-2007 01:30 PM
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Originally Posted by trini&coco (Post 1313477)
You are out of control :confused: ...we are all entitled to our opinions and that's all I am going to say at this point...

Maybe admin should close this thread...it has gotten way off subject and not staying "nice" :rolleyes:
out of control? lol I thought it was a pretty mature argument. And we are on subject as we are talking about "dog whisperer" like the title of the thread says. Nobody is questioning your entitlement for stating your opinion just be strong enough to admit when your wrong. And when someone comments about someone being up tight posting "bravo" bravo" "bravo" makes the other person feel like they are being singled out and attacked by both of you, which is why I gave my comments in the first place.


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