Breeding
 

Some advice please? :confused:

My Yorkie is only 3 months old, so this is not an urgent question, but I've had a few family/friends say they would like a puppy if I ever breed her.

What are the pros and cons to breeding your PET? I know its a natural thing, but I want to do what's best for her.

How does it affect their health?

How does it affect their body? :rolleyes:

When should they have their first puppies? 1 year/2 year/etc.

Any other issues I should think about?

Thanks for your input!! :)

1st question I would ask is why do you want to breed ? There are so many dogs in shelters and rescues needing homes I wouldn't go adding to the numbers unless you have very good reasons to do so.

Thank you. Very good point.

I guess it's kind of like your kids having kids. You know how grandparent's love their grandbabies. It would be something part of her. BUT....I do respect your input. I haven't had a dog in a long time, so I don't think about things like you said. I will definitely keep that point in mind.

Thanks!

I hope that this helps. But definitely educate yourself before you commit to this. If you aren't able to sell your pups, are you prepared to handle more dogs? There are SO many aspects to breeding that need to be taken into consideration.

Thanks for the great information.

I am not interested in breeding her more than once. I just wanted to know what the issues were if we were to breed her. I am not even looking to make a profit from it; just a few close friends and family that I would GIVE puppies to. If she had more puppies than friends/family who would want them (highly unlikely) I would definitely keep them. I have found they are the most loving animals around! I have fell in love with my Yorkie. :love: And I want my friends/family to experience this, too.

I think every Yorkie is perfect....so I am not concerned who the daddy would be (except that he is a Yorkie) or how the puppies would turn out.

I appreciate any advice anyone can provide to help me make an informed decision.

Another question comes to mind.

Since I am not certain as to whether I will breed her, and I don't get her "fixed," what are the issues to having a female dog that is not "fixed" ... and possibly does not ever become pregnant?

If she is not spayed, does this affect her temperment?

I've never had a female dog before, and all of our male dogs have been neutered, when they are in heat, what is needed to care for them?

If I decide not to breed her, when is the latest I can have her spayed?

breeding
 

KC here are some good websites for to you read while you have at least a year to wait before your little gal can be bred you wait for second heat...

http://www.woodhavenlabs.com/breeding/breeder3.html

http://www.yorkiebaby.com/health.html

http://www.lowchensaustralia.com/Breeding.htm#beforebr

http://members.aol.com/CYorkie/SuperMom.html

http://www.petbitsforyou.com/

http://showdogsupersite.com/kenlclub...t/feeding.html

http://66.102.7.104/search?q=cache:e...+terrier&hl=en

http://www.debbiejensen.com/heat_cycle.html

these are all very good sites to read and read again and read again before you decide.

hope this helps and educates you at to what is best for your baby.

OMG, femnvstr, that is perfect! Thanks for much for the links.

well our pippa is a runt, and is really small, she is about as big as she is gonna get. So I think it depends on how big she gets. If we want to breed pippa, we are gonna have to get a boy smaller then her, lol. I think it just depends on whether or not you want her to breed.

How big is your female?

Don't know how big she will get.

She was 2lbs at 8 weeks.

Her mother is 5lbs; father 4lbs.

What is the preferred minimum weight? I know they can be too small.

To Breed or not to breed :)

There is a lot of good advice above, and here is another angle to look at it from.....If you do decide to breed her after doing TONS of research, always know that something can go wrong as with people (even death). It isn't all fun just because adorable little puppies are invoved. As far as giving them all away, know that after stud service and vet bills (if everything goes perfectly), and depending on the number of puppies, you probably will have invested a minimum of $750.00 (just an estimate depending on what you have to pay for stud service). You will probably not sleep very much the first week. You will be even more sensitive to the mother's needs (the puppies will pull so much from her). One little piece of poop goes as far as a tinly little piece of chocolate cake for a baby ... funny but true ... you wouldn't think something so tiny could go soooo far. You will become a second mother to the litter, they will be as dependent on you for health and cleanliness as from her. I don't want to scare you, just help prepare you.

Thanks Julz. That is the type of input I am looking for. The good and the bad.

I'm afraid I may come to the conclusion that my friends/family will have to fork out the cost of buying a puppy! I would love to give this "preciousness" to them, though, but not at the cost of doing any damage to my Soph. Maybe I'll help them buy their puppy...or buy one for them as a gift! I better start saving!!! ha :eek:

Hey guys...
Been there! I decided to breed Chloe for several reasons:
1)she is a big girl (3 kg or almost 10 pounds)
2) selling her puppies will cover some (most) of the expenses that I have incured feeding and caring for her, which no matter how you look at it, helps.
3) i wanted to experience the thrill of having little puppies ( I bought Chloe at 11 mos. and missed so much!)
4) I wanted another yorkie and what better than the daughter of my beloved Chloe?
5) there is a great demand in Israel.
But I have gotten so much great advice and help from yorkietalk from breeders and just mothers like me...and they are 14 days old and I really haven't slept very well since...so good luck in whatever you decide, but you have alot of time to think about it, (if Chloe was a real 'mini'-under 5 lbs, I don't think I would have bred her, too dangerous and things can go wrong-we had a vet on call 24 hours when Chloe started labour) and we bred her at 3 years old.

Hey Lisa,
did you see the "Brewers Yeast" thread I posted for you?
Julz

hey Julz
No, what is it?

Hi Lisa,
the thread is on page 2 of general discussions titled "Hey Lisa....Brewers Yeast".
Other people have added to it, so you may want to read the thread instead. Hope it works for you!
Julz

If you spay them before the first heat, you greatly deminish the chance for breast cancer. I would never even think of breeding Snoodles as she is only 3#1oz. I had her spayed and teeth pulled at 6 months. Of course, it is up to you and how big she gets. Myself I am too scared to even think about it even if she was bigger. I bred my poodle for the same reason you stated, and she had to have a C section. She had two pups, and I gave them to family. I wouldn't do it again.
Pat

I would really suggest you find someone who can 'mentor' you through breeding. Someone who's been doing this for awhile. Perferably a YTCA member who breeds to IMPROVE the breed. And be prepared to lose your female. However small the chances are that a female might die during/after labor, it still is a chance.

Go for it!! Be smart!
 

I'm not a breeder so what I'm adding to this is just my opinion. I don't think that there is anything wrong with wanting to breed. Everyone started somewhere with a female, and I'm sure if they lost all their females there wouldn't be any puppies to be had. Things can go wrong, there is not doubt, but that's where you have to be responsible and be prepared for anything. Have a vet on hand and if need be, c-sections. Mother's health comes first. Read up on everything and get familiar with the process, so if something comes up you will be ready for it. I would love to have puppies one day, but since I have all boys, I don't think that's going to happen any time soon :rolleyes: Good luck with whatever you decide to do, you have time to change your mind lots of times...

Perfectpup....SLOW DOWN SISTA!!!! I don't think that SoCalyorkiLvr understand the term "improving the breed". SoCalyorkiLvr, when we say to improve the breed we are talking about not just outward appearance (hair quality, confirmation) we are also talking about inner improvements (knees, hips, tempermant)...genetic defects. There are breeders out there that breed whatever without looking at all of the problems. The unsuspecting buyer ends up with a pup that need to have knees repaired/replace, hips that need surgeries, poor appearances, overbites, underbites, roachec backs...the list goes on and on....

Please don't knock people that say that they want to improve the breed if you don't fully understand what it means.

I think some are missing the term to "improve the breed"

there are many substandard yorkies inside and out being bred then sold as "healthly, happy, perfect little puppies" passing on genetic heart aches to the unspecting public (or uneducated buyers) for the same price if not higher of a well balanced, genetic test, bred within the AKC Yorkshire Terrier toy breed standard.

Prime website selling substandard ill bred dogs is wizard of claws, for what, $5000 and up where many yorkies that dont even look like a Yorkie.

How many of you were taken by surprise when your baby doubled the weight you were expecting? ie being told he/she will be 5lbs and you watch it grow and grow and grow to 8-10lbs you many not love it any less but was it what you were expecting?

how many owners got a coat other than a silk coat? The puppy looked cute and fluffy when you bought him and now a matted hard to maintain mess!

how many of your babies have suffered with liver shunt? the breeder response is "thats impossible" offer to take it back knowing the breeder is going to put your baby down if returned. Playing on your emotions knowing you wouldnt return him/her and for you to foot the doctor bills on your own!

How many of your babies suffer from leg perthes?? the breeder response again "that impossible" same offer!

This breeder is not breeding "to improve the breed" but to meet the demand and to pay for their annual vacation!

JMHO

Knowing I couldnt breed the perfect human, I didnt:)

That's why you should do your research when finding a breeder. Try to find one with a good reputation and one that offers guarantees. You'll never find the absolute PERFECT pup, but with a good breeder, you can find one that doesn't have all of the genetic problems...maybe

Having kids and keeping the human race alive has nothing to do with BREEDING. I just cannot believe anyone could say people are obsessed with the if's and or buts about breeding....if it wasn't for these GOOD BREEDERS - ALL of our yorkies would have genetic health defects - these are the breeders that strive for healthy strong beautiful yorkies for US to be able to love. Sometimes I don't understand certain views - and everyone is entitled to them...but honestly - that comment floored me and I thought was an insult to all the caring breeders out there. Sorry - but this is JMO

PERFECTLY SAID....I totally agree and can relate to the first few as I went thru these myself...Chanels Breeder is ALL about the money and wanted nothing to do with her once she left the premises...Within a few days when I called her to tell her Chanel had coccidia....She claimed she'd never heard of it....didn't care that Chanel was sick and could have died...nothing.

I couldn't believe this is the woman who professed to LOVE all her puppies - yet she didn't give me the time of day ...so yes - it sure can be all about the money ! Others I know of who purchased a puppy thru her have WORSE problems then Chanel had - I'm very lucky and BLESSED she is healthy and happy - but feel awful this woman is still in business selling yorkies with many health defects !

There is a vicious circle with breeders who DON't strive to improve - has anyone ever heard of someone saying - let me take this ugly little pup here with LS and make some babies ? no....but some hobby breeders don't KNOW if their yorkie has these genetic problems and just breed away - then maybe THOSE puppies are bred...where would this stop if everyone just said - hey ...let's make yorkie babies?

I can understand someone wanting puppies - I truly can... because I would LOVE to breed mine - but I know mine are NOT the standard and do have some of the things Feminvster talked about. I COULD breed but I WON'T just for those reasons...

Wow...sometimes things we read here blow me away. We're all entitled to our opinions....hope I don't get banned for this....but I'm pretty amazed here....

ps....People don't have kids and SELL them (tempting as that might be sometimes lol)

so basically that comment had no bearing on the concept of breeding....I had a hard time wrapping my head around THAT one.....

I don't want to insult anyone so please don't assume I am talking about you !

But I have a query what is the difference between a pet owner only wanting one litter and a back yard breeder ? I really can't see the difference but enlighten me if if I am wrong.

I think the difference in some peoples eyes.... is having a litter is something you would do for love or to procreate your puppy because you feel it's a great way to share the qualities - I sure can't say anything is wrong with that !!

A (BAD) backyard breeder is one who breeds over and over for profit not really caring about the health of the puppies...I'm SO NOT saying someone can't breed - I am not a breeder myself & I said earlier... I would LOVE to have puppies by either of my girls...

but... there are SOME breeders out there just breeding for money - without considering all it entails.....I think these are the breeders some people have problems with - I consider Chanels breeder to be a bad breeder ...but back when I got her - I didn't know any better....

I got my Cheri from a private home from a couple who just loved their baby so much they wanted puppies by her....nothing wrong with that ...and I'm so happy with Cheri I'm really glad I found her...

She was in a good enviornment -I got to meet the parents and I could tell the second I walked in these were very caring people who just wanted to have yorkie puppies... These posts are always about the UNCARING people out there with $$ signs in their eyes...not true yorkie lovers.