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Tulip 07-30-2007 03:55 PM

Donna Jean:

I feel so overwhelmed that you would take the time to find out that I gave daisy may two numbers.

I would have given more, but at the end of the day, the two numbers I provided were public knowldege!!!

I do not wish to be a part of the click group on this site, but please understand, everyone has the right to their opinions.

Tulip

Donna Jean 07-30-2007 03:59 PM

:thumbup:
Quote:

Originally Posted by Galatea (Post 1273204)
Under CA law it is a theft if you appropriate property knowing it belongs to someone else and do not make reasonable efforts to locate the true owner. The problem here is that no one knows that whoever now has Zeke reasonably believes that the dog belongs to someone else. Many pages ago it was firmly believed that a blond woman was selling Zeke in front of a Walmart. The people who purchased Zeke would then not reasonably believe that the dog was appropriated. Maureen does not believe there is a connection between the Tahoe people and the blond woman, but who knows for sure.

If the people who have Zeke, did not get it from the blond woman, then we must remember how sure everyone has been in the past that Zeke was at that Walmart being sold and that this mirrors the level of sureness that Zeke is with the Grandmother of this kid.

Given the weakness of the evidence at this state, it is troublesome that people are suggesting that others engage in felonious conduct in order to confirm that Zeke is or isn't at some location. No one has a right to trespass, physically touch another and grab a dog they think might be Zeke, or badger and follow a child in the name of finding Zeke. The right to find Zeke ends where the rights of others begins.

I am sorry that these houses turned out to be dead leads. Hopefully, when the PI gets back into town, we can find out where the child's grandmother actually lives and get some photos.

Thank you so much Galatea for stating the LAW and the facts. It is what it is. I know when we get profesional help like you, and the PI, that our chance of finding Zeke will be greatly increased!!!!! We all have just been doing everything in our power to keep Maureen's spitits up, and do what we can do from afar, which is not much. But we all have our heart, and soul in this case, and have been consumed for the last 6 weeks with the frustation of not being able to have any assistance from the Law. Untill you came on board, we were just having to wing it, and try to think of what to do to have a positive outcome. Thank you for your statements, thank you for joining us in the effort to get ZEKE back home. I know everyone on this thread is very, very grateful to have you onboard.

Gizmo's Mom 07-30-2007 04:10 PM

I am here..and will remain until this is resolved with this baby. I send prayers for Zeke and his mom..and for everyone here. Bless you all.

zoeybear 07-30-2007 04:12 PM

Come Home Safe Zeke!!!!!!

Donna Jean 07-30-2007 04:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tulip (Post 1273375)
Donna Jean:

I feel so overwhelmed that you would take the time to find out that I gave daisy may two numbers.

I would have given more, but at the end of the day, the two numbers I provided were public knowldege!!!

I do not wish to be a part of the click group on this site, but please understand, everyone has the right to their opinions.

Tulip

Tulip, I am thanking you for the positive gesture that you did out of the kindness of your heart. Please do not turn it in to any thing more than a simple thank you. We have a lot of numbers that I am sure you know nothing about, the only person that it is very important to give any information to is Galatea. She has everything she needs to work on this case with the PI that she suggests we get. She has everything important to this case, and has all the numbers she needs to be as successful as one can be with the limited effort given by the Modesto Police Dept.

Thank you again for your positive gesture!

wemple2 07-30-2007 05:01 PM

I am not going any where, I will stand behind Maureen until Zeke is found and is safely home in her arms.
I am going to go back and read this entire thread again...Just because an idea was thrown in...does not mean Maureen intended on acting on those ideas. We all have good intentions and we all mean well, I will hold my head up proud...keep my chin up...And Maureen's spirits high. We can not lose our focus and determination now, that would be devastating for not only Maureen and her family but most importantly, for Zeke.
I will continue to pray for Zeke, ask for help from those willing to do so...and hopefully this whole thing will have the happy ending we all hope and pray for, and we will find Zeke wherever he may be. I will continue to focus on the positive and ignore the negative, after all that is what friends are for.
So in closing, yes we all have opinions...and have a right to voice those opinions, but just like all the ideas suggested...Maureen will not take them all to heart, and act on each personally. We are all here for the very same reason...for the love of our Yorkies. Nobody wants Maureen hurt in any way, and she is hurting...she is missing her precious dog, Zeke. And I for one will not stop searching, offering advise...helping when I can, in any way I can!!!
Zeke...Your mommy needs you more now then ever...please come home, and stop this insanity. Now I will go light another candle, tonight I will make another wish upon the first star and I will pray.

Tinkerbelle1 07-30-2007 05:08 PM

Voice of reason
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Galatea (Post 1273204)
Under CA law it is a theft if you appropriate property knowing it belongs to someone else and do not make reasonable efforts to locate the true owner. The problem here is that no one knows that whoever now has Zeke reasonably believes that the dog belongs to someone else. Many pages ago it was firmly believed that a blond woman was selling Zeke in front of a Walmart. The people who purchased Zeke would then not reasonably believe that the dog was appropriated. Maureen does not believe there is a connection between the Tahoe people and the blond woman, but who knows for sure.

If the people who have Zeke, did not get it from the blond woman, then we must remember how sure everyone has been in the past that Zeke was at that Walmart being sold and that this mirrors the level of sureness that Zeke is with the Grandmother of this kid.

Given the weakness of the evidence at this state, it is troublesome that people are suggesting that others engage in felonious conduct in order to confirm that Zeke is or isn't at some location. No one has a right to trespass, physically touch another and grab a dog they think might be Zeke, or badger and follow a child in the name of finding Zeke. The right to find Zeke ends where the rights of others begins.

I am sorry that these houses turned out to be dead leads. Hopefully, when the PI gets back into town, we can find out where the child's grandmother actually lives and get some photos.


Thank you

:goodpost:

Tinkerbelle1 07-30-2007 05:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tulip (Post 1273224)
Donna Jean:

Your harsh rebuttal to Gypsy & Me, is most uncalled for, she was stating her opinion and nothing more.

This is the problem with this particular site, your attempt to justified your own actions is questionable.

I sat here on my backside yesterday, and I called the Modesto Police and contacted someone on this board to give them the number and name of someone whom, I thought would be able to help bring the puppy home.

It is a know fact that the Modesto Police have always seem to be a blundering police department. No this is not gossip, I watch CNN too.

Kindly think twice before you lash out at others for posting there simple opinions.

I suspect that you will last out at me next, and that's fine, but please note that I will allow you the very democracy, that you seem to disallow for others to freely express their opinions.

Tulip

:goodpost:

Tinkerbelle1 07-30-2007 05:16 PM

Zeke
 
I will continue to pray and light candles for Zeke's safe return.
Until Zeke is returned to his mom I will keep them in my prayers.


j:)

Proud Mommy 07-30-2007 05:26 PM

I am sorry so many of you think I have done something bad... I did not think I slandered anyone and if I did I apologize.

As for the police department, they are not the best, it is public knowledge. Scott Peterson... I think that says enough.

So many negative things are being said and I am not one for confrontation, I am having a hard time "letting it roll off my back."

I hope noone takes offense to this post but I could not sit here and ignore it anymore... I feel bad I have caused so many problems:( :(

Thank you to those of you that have helped me so much in my search.

Tinkerbelle1 07-30-2007 05:37 PM

Maureen
 
Please do not take the posts to heart. Everyone has a right to their opinion. I do not think anyone was bashing anything you did. You are a mom looking for her little one. I think some feathers got ruffled and they will smooth out.

It does not change how much we want Zeke to come home to you so please don't think you have done anything wrong.


j:)

judyeve 07-30-2007 05:39 PM

Dear Sweet Maureen,

You never caused anyone any problems. Please don't ever think that. We all love you and want Zeke back home. I'm so sorry that the house turned out to be the wrong one.

You will get Zeke back, we will all stay right here and support and protect you, and when you get him back in your arms, we will celebrate together.

Love you,

Judy

Tulip 07-30-2007 05:40 PM

Hello Proudmummy: :)

Quote:

I am sorry so many of you think I have done something bad... I did not think I slandered anyone and if I did I apologize.
It has been a long six weeks, everyone is just concerned, nobody that has been involved with the thread thinks that at all.

please be rest assured that although we all think differently about certain procedures everyones heart is in the right place.


Tulip

reeses 07-30-2007 06:37 PM

Alright everyone...not to be bossy but lets not upset Maureen. Its the last thing she needs. She is trying so hard to get Zeke back and we need to be there to support her not argue with each other. If you want to do that start an arguement thread...dont do it here. If you dont have anything nice to say dont say anything at all. Maureen doesnt need to read negative thoughts. She needs prayers and positive thoughts from everyone!

Maureen...dont worry hun you havent done anything wrong. I support you 100% and pray for Zekes safe retuyrn home ASAP!!! :)

laurenr 07-30-2007 06:54 PM

I have been gone the whole day and have come back here to catch up, like I usually do at the end of the day.

It feel SO much sadness to read some of these posts. In the past 6 weeks, there has been SO much love shared here, so many friendships formed and nurtured - all through the love of a little lost Yorkie, and the shared desire to bring him home.

Kathy sums it up perfectly with her usual kindness and optimism:
"I will continue to pray for Zeke, ask for help from those willing to do so...and hopefully this whole thing will have the happy ending we all hope and pray for, and we will find Zeke wherever he may be. I will continue to focus on the positive and ignore the negative, after all that is what friends are for.
So in closing, yes we all have opinions...and have a right to voice those opinions, but just like all the ideas suggested...Maureen will not take them all to heart, and act on each personally. We are all here for the very same reason...for the love of our Yorkies. Nobody wants Maureen hurt in any way, and she is hurting...she is missing her precious dog, Zeke. And I for one will not stop searching, offering advise...helping when I can, in any way I can!!!
Zeke...Your mommy needs you more now then ever...please come home, and stop this insanity. Now I will go light another candle, tonight I will make another wish upon the first star and I will pray."

Jeannie, I hope more than anyone, that you are reading this. What you have done in the past few weeks for Maureen astounds me. I am in total awe of your devotion to the cause of Zeke. I am honored to call you my friend, as is almost EVERYONE here. You are probably the single most, hardest worker in the search for Zeke. We should all be reminded of that fact.

We must all remember, we are INDIVIDUALS, and as such, we must allow each other our own opinions. They are not necessarily wrong, just DIFFERENT. Surely we can allow that??

Maureen, don't EVER think you are in any way the cause of today's disagreements. You are a sweet, gentle soul, grieving for the loss of your precious Zeke, wanting only to have him back by your side.

I am appealing to EVERYONE here. Go back and read again, how ever many pages you want - what is the foremost prevailing factor iin this thread.... what do you see written or described here every day, week after week? It is not anger, it is not recrimination, it is not blame.... the single most prevailing message in all 160 pages here is LOVE. I beg you all to remember that. Do you not see the affection we all feel for each other, the gentle teasing, the kidding around, the genuine concern, in between the serious business of finding Zeke. We do not just come here to continue the search, we come to revisit with our friends, the ones that have come to mean SO much to each other during the past month and a half.

How sad it would be, if we let anger overtake what I have described above. What we have all formed here is a very precious bond.... I am appealing to all of your not to let it break.

Maureen, I so wish I could do more for your Hon, before I leave on Friday.

I do hope, with all of my heart, that no-one here will take offence to anything I have written, because none is intended.

With much love, and a little sadness,
Lauren


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