Breiwer vs Parti-Yorkie
 

What is the difference between a briewer yorkie and a parti? They look the same to me.

Great question, I was wondering the same thing! I was also wondering why they cost so much moor then the Yorkies do?

I have been goggle'n Biewers all day trying to figureout how and what exactly they are. Diggy has more and more white...not tan coming out. above eyes, chest, and his chin. I read some yorkies have this and it goes away but he is 14 weeks and is only getting whiter and bigger????? Not sure if you can tell from this pic but it was last week and the white is bigger and whiter today. Im just curious. :rolleyes:

Jeaniek has Parties and knows lots about them. Kathy785 has Brewiers and Know lots about them. Ask them they would be happy to fill you in.:D

I am no expert in any way, but until JeanieK and Kathy785 get here to fill you in...I believe that Beiwers come directly from German lines, while partis are yorkies that are born with the parti color, but can come from any yorkie line. I could be wrong. :rolleyes:

They are both oh so cute!

Diggy your baby is adorable, he might be a carrier for the partie or biewer genes (im no expert)

i think there are several difference but the only one i can remeber is something about the colors and where they are on the yorkies body. i have a friend that have 4 biewers and one partie and i remeber her mentioning the color thing to me once. her babies are so pretty she has a biewers whose about to have her first litter

Basically they are the same dog. Both were started from traditional colored yorkies carrying the piebald gene. When the piebald gene is in both parents it can result in a tricolored offspring.

the Biewer line comes from Germany. they have their own breed club separate from the Yorkshire Terrier and standards have been set for their colors and color patterns. they also do not dock their tails.

The parti line is an Aerican version of the Biewer. So far no club has been established and theycannot be shown, but they are AKC registered.

I have Biewers too. There is a full history on my website under "history".


But JeanieK basically gave you the answer. The piebald gene is in many yorkie lines; but because the white is a fault in the US, many early yorkie breeders spayed females or lines producing white. Those that didn't created what is now called the Parti here in the US.

Mr. Biewer's yorkies produced the piebald puppies now called Biewers and they are german registered. If the dog is a Biewer it is related to Mr. Biewer's original dogs.

Does it look to you like he may be a carrier? his belly legs chin around eyes and chest are all white

Im going to check out your site when I get back from my ball game....

Never knew
 

I did not know anything about them until joining YT. Still don't know much. I do know they are a beautiful dog! The only ones I have seen have been on YT and on the internet when I have looked them up. I would love to see one in person. I am jealous of you that own and/or breed them--they are BEAUTIES!:)

Forgive my ignorant question. Does that mean that a yorkie with a white blaze on chest is likely to have the piebald gene?

Well there is a IABCA dog show in Missouri June 23 & 24; another show in Hutto, TX June 30 & July 1; and one in S. California Aug 25 & 26. Come to one of the shows and watch these little beauties strut their stuff.

Sorry Paula, I didn't see your question. My understanding that it is more than just the white blaze on the chest....especially if it doesn't turn dark as it grows out. The biewer standard is absolute on 4 white legs, chest and tip of tail. I didn't breed Yorkies so maybe one of the other breeders can speak to that.

hmmmm I wonder if you can ne a little Biewer or Parti?? Diggy has the white in all spots you mention except feet the insides of his legs are really white as is his Belly...Okay this may sound weird but he is all white underneath except his ding ding and his family jewels those are black....its so obvious and when he rolls over for belly rub everyone laughs it really is very noticable.:p

No Paula it doesn't. The piebald recessive gene is hidden and just by looking at a dog you cannot tell if they have this gene. It is all in the genetics each dog carries and unless you breed two dogs that both have this recessive gene and a litter is born with some of the puppies having white where other colors should be you would not know. The piebald recessive gene is in horses, cows, & pigs also. This is about genetics and is not breed specific. Breeders of any of these animals who are actively breeding for these results should understand this as it could carry potential health risks generations later if they are not educating themselves on these genes.

In the case of both the Biewer’s and the Parti’s they can trace their lineage back to many generations of Yorkies which is why the AKC had to accept the Parti’s here in the U.S. The Biewer’s were accepted by the UCI and have a breed standard.


Hopefully the following website will explain this further.

http://www.italiangreyhound.org/health/pragenetics.html

“Most genes have multiple "alleles" or choices that can be present at that site. Take the white markings in IG's for example. This gene has four alleles, solid, Irish marked, piebald (pied) and white. All IG's carry a copy of that gene that they inherited from each parent. Some have two copies of the Irish allele, some have two copies of the pied allele, and some have one copy of pied, and one copy of Irish. A dog that has one of each appears Irish (his phenotype), because the Irish gene is dominant and the pied gene is recessive. So when we see the dog, he is Irish, but actually his genotype is Irish with a pied recessive. When we breed this dog, he may produce pieds, since he is carrying the pied recessive. His phenotype does not reveal the true story of his genotype, and by looking at the dog, we have no way of knowing by his appearance that he carries the pied gene. This is a common situation with a recessive gene.

Here is another site which also explains it and the paragraph at the bottom explains the direction DNA testing is going for these markers.

http://homepage.usask.ca/~schmutz/dogcolors.html

I think that the Breiwer and Parti's are cute! I was thinking of getting one after I get my Yorkie. So I might be looking for one in February/ march of next year! I want to do a bit of research first. I have visited the web sights of a few breeders and they are lovely little things!

I think that the Breiwer and Parti's are cute! I was thinking of getting one after I get my Yorkie. So I might be looking for one in February/ march of next year! I want to do a bit of research first. I have visited the web sights of a few breeders and they are lovely little things!

Try to see some in person at either the breeders or some of the local dog shows. They are beautiful to see in person--it is like instant love.

Still Curious....
 

:rolleyes: I also am throwing the idea around....I have 2 yorkies Bella and Diggy. I have my boy and I have my princess....so I wouldnt care about sex, or anything else just a healthy baby. Im not a breeder and dont show...Im just a plain ole momma lol :D How much do these dogs cost? Are there rescues for them??? I just noticed they go for thousands....Thats steep.....Do you ever come across cheaper ones that are not show quality or breedable or do they always cost thousads?? I wouldnt get one for awhile...I need to research more and meet one....so lots to do before I would take on a another breed. But if they are just regular yorkies with a piepald gene missing Id assume they are the all the same? Do they run the same risk of Hypo? Compromised liver? Baby teeth usually needing extracting?

www.dogbreedinfo.com has a lot of information and they do have Biewer information, what the difference is I can't tell except they seem to be a German line of Yorkies, so then what is a Parti-Yorkie? Just another name maybe? i have no clue, but i would love to know!

I think Biewers are German blood lines, Parti is the American blood lines??;)

I belive that the price is because of how rare these dogs are in the US. The breeder has to follow strict breeding rules from Germany and test have to be done one each puppies to ensure the best of health. At least that is what I have read at sites about these dogs. I too am researching them right now and I am thinking about getting one next February/ March. I will be setting some money aside till then! I have emailed a few breeders and asked Questions, they probibly think I am nuts with what I have asked!

Thats about when I would be wanting one too!!! Where in Ohio are you??Im like 13 miles North Of Toledo. Maybe we could venture into this together??

I live in Sandusky, Ohio. Where exactly are you located? My sister in law lives in Toledo! We venter that way at times! Are you looking into breeding the Biewer or just to have as a pet? When I get my lil boy Yorkie, I am going to be breeding him, but I wanted to show him a few times before I do that, I am going to get a show/breed quality one so why not show him first? I will do the same with a Biewer when I get him next year. I am a stay at home mom and the boy's are getting into their teens and I have been giving this so much thought since I will have plenty of time to be involved!

I am in Monroe, Mi we come to Cedar Point a lot! (best place EVER!! lol) So we are not too far away to try and do this together....We do have different intentions tho. I have a female Bella 2 spayed. Diggy my male is 14 weeks. I am not educated enough on breeding to attempt to breed yet. I am not opposed to getting informed and educated by any means tho. I work about 30 hours a week have 2 skin kids Tannar 12 in July And a daughter Avery 15 in Sept. So mine are getting older too and not requiring as much of my time besides being at the gym or at a ball field...both are 3 sport athletes :jump28ib: lol I mostly want one for a pet and not show or breed. Either way I guess you could get the pick of the litter (best for show and breeding) and Ill take the misfit to spoil and make fat ha! :p How much info do you have so far?? Im just learning about the history of the breed. My regualr email is paulatomsic@comcast.net if you want to exchange thoughts and info that way or we can do it in here either way is fine with me!!

Too bad you aren't in the market for one to spoil as a pet now; you sound like you could be perfect biewer puppy parent.

I am getting another dog in a year, and I am for sure buying from the house of wags..they r so cute

well i just might be in the market now! lol they r too cute and I cannot stop thinking about them

They can still be prone to the same health risks as the traditional colored Yorkies...they are 100% Yorkie, just carry the piebald gene. You just have to make sure that you trust the breeder that you get your puppy from. I have only had Livi for 3 and a half weeks but completely adore her! As a future breeder, I think it will be very difficult to say goodbye to my babies! I have attached some pictures of Livi...please ignore the hair. She was determined to get that clip out of her hair, so she made herself a mess with scratching until she got it out. Smart and spunky! :D

Tammy

I don't know how I missed this. I check YT several times a day for interesting looking topics! You all have been right about the Biewers and the Partis. They are basically the same except the Partis have NO standards, are recognized by AKC, but CANNOT be shown. The Biewers have standards for where the white MUST be, (legs, belly, tip of tail, head), and of course the standards for build, but they are the same for the standard yorkies. Biewer is the name of the German man that "developed" this breed. The Biewers are mostly registered in Germany, but there are many clubs/registries popping up in the US. I feel that to hold true to the German roots, they should be registered in Germany. There are many registries in Germany with the IBC being the largest. Pam and I have three Biewer puppies at this time. We have a boy and girl that are 18 weeks old and will be around 6 pounds fully grown and I also have an 8 week old boy that will be around 4-5 pounds grown. I think my little boy is exceptional. He is very level, short cobby legs, good tail and ear set. He should make a good show/breeding candidate.