Teacup Yorkie Breeders in NJ & questions
 

Hi
I am looking for a breeder in New Jersey. Do you have any suggestions of a reputable breeder.

How are yorkies as far as allergies go? Are they considered having hair or fur? I am allergic to long hair dogs and think this breed would work fine as long as she is groomed.

How often and what type of shampoo do you use on your teacup?
What type of food do you use too? I have heard not to use meat by products, but looking in the supermarkets it seems like that is what most of them are. What is your recommendation.

I had 2 miniature schnauzers growing up and my parents did everything. They used dry mixed in with canned food. I know they used kibbles & bits and mighty dog or alpo dog foods.
Thanks for answering my quesitons.
I am looking to adopt a puppy in July or August.
Thanks again

Yorkies are long haired.
As far as shampoo I am not sure, I am still trying to find the right one. Teacups do not exist.
For food I sue the brand bil jac and my puppy loves it a lot.
Welcome to Yorkie Talk this is a great place to learn a lot about these little guys.

Healthy yorkies should be about 7lbs. And tea cups do exist they just contain tea not puppies ;)

Great answer Julie!

Would you beleive four times in one day (yesterday at the dog show) people came up to me and asked if my show dog was a teacup? These so-called breeders and pet shops seem to have a stronghold on public perspection. I think there's more people out there who have some idea what a "teacup" is than who actually understand the standard.

donnathedoula - I apologize for the inside jokes. We don't in any way mean to offend. It's just that there's a lot of people out there advertising "teacups" as a sales gimmik. Please do not ask for or buy from anyone who will sell you a "teacup." If you do a search through yorkietalk you'll find a ton of info on why the term "teacup yorkie" is a fallacy and the health and social impacts of buying such dogs.

Here's also a link to my own website where I've posted some additional info:

http://www.mightymitedoggear.com/linksteacup.html

Excellent website yorkipower particularly love the agility pictures !

Thanks! Glad you like it! More to come soon!

Maybe I have the wrong idea about why ya'll are so against the term "tea cup", so please forgive me if I do...but, if not...I just want to add my two cents, tea cups do exist, its the term used for smaller than average dogs, which I don't agree with at all, I think its awful breeding specifically for tea cups however, I don't see anything wrong with the term "tea cup" its just a name...like "petite" women.

Anyhow, on to answer some of your ?'s.
I feed my dogs Nutro and they love it! Im still trying to find a good shampoo, I like..but do a board search, you'll find a lot of stuff you're looking for!!

[COLOR=Blue]IMO, the marketing phrase (and that is ALL that it is) TEACUP is never a legitimate term. There are NO standards by which a breeder of Yorkies might use to determine what is the weight and size of a teacup. For instance, a breeder not far from me says her teacups have to weigh UNDER 5 1/2 pounds. Anything above that might be a mini or a standard. Yes, there are unscrupulous people who breed tiny females even, under 3 lbs, and shoot for tiny babies they can sell to the buyer for megabucks because the seller knows a ringer when they hear the word teacup come out of the buyer's mouth. I used to say "uneducated public" but there is no excuse for being uneducated about puppies. The magazines, newspaper columns, computers, breed-specific books are all out there to use to educate oneself. The potential for genetic health probems, their fragility throughout their lives, special needs are also in those same materials.
The word TEACUP when applied to Yorkies conjures up the sound of a cash register going ka-ching and hundred dollar bills flying out of a persons wallet and straight into the drawer of the register..

A tea cup is something used to drink tea .

I just wanted to tell you that you don't have to pay the high prices that you are going to from someone who advertises Tcups to have a nice dog. I have a 6lb dog and he is an angel. He is cuddling in my lap as I write this. Yorkies are a small breed of dog so If you want small that is what you are going to get. They are cuddly, loving and affectionate. Good luck on your search.

Teacup.
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When I first got to YorkieTalk, I thought the same thing. "Aww, those teacup Yorkies are just so darn cute!" Then, before I got Fred I decided to do my research and found this forum! (Thank goodness)

Pretty much in a nutshell, I learned there are no such things as "teacups", "rare" (I've seen some more ridiculous ones, too) or anything else that strays from "toy", "tiny" or "runt". It's just a hype and some sort of marketing scheme that irreputable breeders do to get an extra penny or two. I also learned something else to lighten my naivety when looking for a dog. The smaller the dog, the more potential healthy problems you may face.

As for Shampoo, I ordered the shampoo that Khristine (Yorkie_Girl) referred to and it smells guh-reat! I forgot what it was called though, lol.

[QUOTE=yorkiesRmine]Maybe I have the wrong idea about why ya'll are so against the term "tea cup", so please forgive me if I do...but, if not...I just want to add my two cents, tea cups do exist, its the term used for smaller than average dogs, which I don't agree with at all, I think its awful breeding specifically for tea cups however, I don't see anything wrong with the term "tea cup" its just a name...like "petite" women.

Oh really? "its the term used for" - whose term would that be? What's your source? :rolleyes:

Aren't smaller than average dogs called runts? :confused: Or premature, even.

For the dry food I buy Super Nutra Nuggets, I've only seen them at Fred Meyer's (if you have one in your area). They are tiny bite sized perfect for the puppies mouth. For the wet food, I buy Chicken Soup for the Puppy Lovers Soul. They have no animal by-products and it's all natural. It smells like real food and you can see all the veggies in it. My pups didn't care for the dry food of the brand but they love the wet food so I get it every once in awhile for them. If you haven't gotten a puppy yet, I'd wait to see what the breeder you are getting your pup from feeds the puppy and buy that food and then if you wanna switch to a different brand then slowly add the new food with the one they are currently on and keep doing it til eventually the new food is all they are eating. That way you won't have any issues with upset stomachs and even worse diarrhea.

I am allergic to both dogs and cats. We have a mini schnauzer and I have 1 yorkie and 2 yorkie/maltese dogs and I've never had any allergy problems with any of my dogs, but I've heard some people that have allergies are still allergic to yorkies. I'd say the best thing is to meet with a breeder that have yorkies or whatever breed you are interested in and spend some time with the dogs and see how you are feeling afterwards. Are you sneezing? Eyes itching, etc? You won't really know til you hold and play with them and be around them (especially around their bedding) to know how if any your allergies will react.

Here's a link on people who suffer from allergies and what breed would work for them: http://www.dogbreedinfo.com/allergy.htm This link also gives you info on each of the breeds, the standards, etc.

That is how we decided on our first dog which was our Mini Schnauzer.

As far as shampoo's go, I think it also depends on your pup. Some may have skin sensitivities (dandruff, oily, etc) but a non eye tearing puppy shampoo should be fine to start on your pup.

Just like you wouldn't go buy a car without doing research and stuff, take your time in getting the right pup for you. Don't just depend on what someone tells you. Go with what your heart/instinct tells you.

Hope that helps! Good luck!

I think the term "tea cup" means the dog is tiny enough to "fit" into a tea cup, not that the dog is a tea cup....I don't use the term myself...but when I do hear other people use it, I do know that they are referring to a smaller then average dog. I know, I know, who is to say what a smaller then average dog is...I don't have the answer to that, but still, I get the jest of the size of dog they are referring to.... Just my 2 cents :rolleyes:

Daisysmom, there are at least 2 forms (and more) of allergies to animals. One is to fur-Yorkies have hair so that is not an issue with them. Another is dander..all dogs have it to some degree. The third and harder to deal with is allergies to the proteins in the animals saliva. That is the biggie and the one that forces some people to have to re-home their pet. Those are certainly not all of them, but they are what we see on here the most..
Anytime, I see the term TEACUP, I still see in my mind those 5 pounders that the breeder was calling and trying to sell as "teacups".

Yes you are correct, one of the reasons I suggested meeting and playing with the pups. I know for myself within spending 5 min at someones house if I am allergic especially if I am sitting on an area the pets consider their bedding (ie sofa/couch). I use to get allergy shots mixed specifically for me by an allergy doctor in both arms 2x a week. Now I only go once ever 2 wks but I still have reactions (not as bad) when I'm around cats or long haired dogs. I am allergic to the dander and saliva. Sometimes when I shave my Mini Schnauzer I'll start sneezing cause of the hair flying around.

Well she said it plain and simple...! Just as what I'm saying..."Tea Cup" means a smaller dog! So when anyone's specify a tea cup you immediately know what they are referring to. So it doesn't cause any confusion by stating what size the dog is, Tea Cup for small, or Tiny....and then Med, then large. Pretty simple!

shampoo
 

A good shampoo is made by Chris Christenson you can find it at
www.chrissystems.com

i would have to second that!

I love their products! i've bought the day to day shampoo, and conditioner and also the ice on ice leave in conditioner.. works wonders! :p

yes those are all the exact products i use :)

Breeder in New Jersey
 

To answer your question about a breeder in New Jersey. I got my Desi from a very good breeder in Paramus New Jersey - Rosemary McElroy - 201-248-8071.

Who made up the term "petite"...like everything else. it's just a WORD. And people know what you mean when you say "tea cup", but if you rather, I can say runt instead, since that is the correct "term".

I found the term 'tea-cup' to be under 4 1/2 pounds full grown. 3 x their weight at 8 weeks, and twice the weight at 12 weeks, approximately. They do ask a premium price, but they are not necessarily bread down for size. The kennel we bought from used 7-9 lb females and small males. Another reason for the premium price is the cost and need of care for these small dogs. A dog under 2 pounds can be very costly to raise even to 12 weeks, and will die if it jumps out of a car, or sometimes off your lap. A responsible breeder with a runt yorkie would be very concerned for it's ability to live a good life. Not to go into the crate thing, but if a person is able to have a dog like that, it is very delicate, needs lots of special consideration, and will need a pricy vet to keep it alive. My opinion only, my pups are 6lb boy and 8 lb mommy of five today.

[QUOTE=yorkiesRmine] "tea cup" its just a name...like "petite" women.

I have been refered to as petite and though it should be complimenting it isn't. I guess maybe because I am just a very straight forward person and really dont like to be labeled (for lack of a better word) like that.


I am short (five foot two on a good day with shoes)
I am aprox 100 lbs (depending on the time of the month)
and I am very fine boned (as my gramma says)


You never see birth announcements that say " Mr. & Mrs. John Smith gave birth to a petite baby boy today." So why do we call little yorkies Teacups?? TO MAKE MONEY!!!

I totally agree! IMHO, it is simply a matter of semantics and I don't understand all the uproar it creates everytime someone uses the word "teacup". It's just a word and it is used to denote size. It is used by good and bad breeders alike and is not used "solely for the purpose of marketing". I avoid using the term because it is so controversial but then I have also been told that "tiny" is not appropriate either so I have started using the weight as the measurement when I discuss the subject of size.

I think it makes yorkie fanciers sound sort of ridiculous and less credible when they make such a big deal about a word. We need to accept the fact that the term exists and is not going anywhere. In fact, it is becoming more common. Target uses it as a size designation in their doggy clothing line as do several other popular clothing lines. We may not like it but to insist that the small size does not exist makes us appear to be ignorant. Of course they exist.

It is true that it may mean something different to different people so it is always best to ask how they define it. Most breeders I know that use the term teacup are referring to a dog who will probably be less than 5 lbs as an adult. Some people place the cut off at 4 lbs.

SIZE, STRUCTURE, WEIGHT? What is the Best Measurement?
 

I am so used to yorkie size being defined by their weight, but yet I have noticed that the true measure of a yorkie is their structure at adulthood and not the weight.

Why do we not judge the adult size of a puppy by it's structure at a certain age rather than it's weight? For instance, 5" ht and 5" length. They are supposed to be a perfect square, or so I have been told. Is it because this measurement is less accurate than a scale?

I know adult yorkies that look like they are really small and you would guess they weigh 3 lbs by their structure, but they are actually 5 lbers who are solid muscle. Some have a delicate, lite weight bone structure, but they can be taller and longer and only weigh 4 lbs while others can have thicker ,heavier bones but be shorte legged and shorter in length but weigh 5 or 6 lbs.

Has anyone else noticed this?

I think the french "made up" the word petite as it's the French word for small.

My reason for disliking the term teacup is we are in danger of destroying a hardy terrier breed with this fashion for smaller and smaller dogs.

There does seem to be an inherent perception that the smaller the yorkie, the more health problems. I have not found this to be the case, but maybe others with more experience can elaborate. I do know that the super super tinies like 2 lbs and under are more prone to hypoglycemia which continue throughout their lives and does not end with puppyhood as it does with the larger dogs. I think they also have more open fontanels and there are special precautions necessary for anexthesia. There are the obvious concerns for safety since they are so small but I think those concerns exists for all yorkies. Doors, falling/jumping from high places, being stepped on, being attacked by a larger dog, getting out through holes in fences, drowning, birds of prey, coyotes, etc. are all safety concerns for our babies.

I just wonder how much more of a health concern there is for a below breed standard weight yorkie than one within the standard or if the statisitics exist? I know that they used to allege health issues with the "off colors" which have never been proven and were, in my opinion, simply a rationalization in the past for killing puppies that were not within the breed standard. As far as I am aware chocolate, parti and Biewer yorkies are just as healthy as any other yorkie of traditional color.