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whispersmom2 05-22-2005 02:44 PM

Daisysmom, there are at least 2 forms (and more) of allergies to animals. One is to fur-Yorkies have hair so that is not an issue with them. Another is dander..all dogs have it to some degree. The third and harder to deal with is allergies to the proteins in the animals saliva. That is the biggie and the one that forces some people to have to re-home their pet. Those are certainly not all of them, but they are what we see on here the most..
Anytime, I see the term TEACUP, I still see in my mind those 5 pounders that the breeder was calling and trying to sell as "teacups".

daisysmom 05-22-2005 03:27 PM

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Originally Posted by whispersmom2
Daisysmom, there are at least 2 forms (and more) of allergies to animals. One is to fur-Yorkies have hair so that is not an issue with them. Another is dander..all dogs have it to some degree. The third and harder to deal with is allergies to the proteins in the animals saliva. That is the biggie and the one that forces some people to have to re-home their pet. Those are certainly not all of them, but they are what we see on here the most..
Anytime, I see the term TEACUP, I still see in my mind those 5 pounders that the breeder was calling and trying to sell as "teacups".

Yes you are correct, one of the reasons I suggested meeting and playing with the pups. I know for myself within spending 5 min at someones house if I am allergic especially if I am sitting on an area the pets consider their bedding (ie sofa/couch). I use to get allergy shots mixed specifically for me by an allergy doctor in both arms 2x a week. Now I only go once ever 2 wks but I still have reactions (not as bad) when I'm around cats or long haired dogs. I am allergic to the dander and saliva. Sometimes when I shave my Mini Schnauzer I'll start sneezing cause of the hair flying around.

yorkiesRmine 05-22-2005 03:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Neecy
I think the term "tea cup" means the dog is tiny enough to "fit" into a tea cup, not that the dog is a tea cup....I don't use the term myself...but when I do hear other people use it, I do know that they are referring to a smaller then average dog. I know, I know, who is to say what a smaller then average dog is...I don't have the answer to that, but still, I get the jest of the size of dog they are referring to.... Just my 2 cents :rolleyes:

Well she said it plain and simple...! Just as what I'm saying..."Tea Cup" means a smaller dog! So when anyone's specify a tea cup you immediately know what they are referring to. So it doesn't cause any confusion by stating what size the dog is, Tea Cup for small, or Tiny....and then Med, then large. Pretty simple!

luv4yorkies 05-22-2005 04:09 PM

shampoo
 
A good shampoo is made by Chris Christenson you can find it at
www.chrissystems.com

Yorkie_GirL 05-22-2005 04:28 PM

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Originally Posted by luv4yorkies
A good shampoo is made by Chris Christenson you can find it at
www.chrissystems.com

i would have to second that!

I love their products! i've bought the day to day shampoo, and conditioner and also the ice on ice leave in conditioner.. works wonders! :p

luv4yorkies 05-22-2005 04:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Yorkie_GirL
i would have to second that!

I love their products! i've bought the day to day shampoo, and conditioner and also the ice on ice leave in conditioner.. works wonders! :p


yes those are all the exact products i use :)

fourdez 05-22-2005 06:31 PM

Breeder in New Jersey
 
To answer your question about a breeder in New Jersey. I got my Desi from a very good breeder in Paramus New Jersey - Rosemary McElroy - 201-248-8071.

yorkiesRmine 05-22-2005 06:37 PM

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Originally Posted by yorkipower
Oh really? "its the term used for" - whose term would that be? What's your source? :rolleyes:


Who made up the term "petite"...like everything else. it's just a WORD. And people know what you mean when you say "tea cup", but if you rather, I can say runt instead, since that is the correct "term".

Laura 05-22-2005 07:25 PM

I found the term 'tea-cup' to be under 4 1/2 pounds full grown. 3 x their weight at 8 weeks, and twice the weight at 12 weeks, approximately. They do ask a premium price, but they are not necessarily bread down for size. The kennel we bought from used 7-9 lb females and small males. Another reason for the premium price is the cost and need of care for these small dogs. A dog under 2 pounds can be very costly to raise even to 12 weeks, and will die if it jumps out of a car, or sometimes off your lap. A responsible breeder with a runt yorkie would be very concerned for it's ability to live a good life. Not to go into the crate thing, but if a person is able to have a dog like that, it is very delicate, needs lots of special consideration, and will need a pricy vet to keep it alive. My opinion only, my pups are 6lb boy and 8 lb mommy of five today.

ReconsMomma 05-22-2005 07:35 PM

[QUOTE=yorkiesRmine] "tea cup" its just a name...like "petite" women.

I have been refered to as petite and though it should be complimenting it isn't. I guess maybe because I am just a very straight forward person and really dont like to be labeled (for lack of a better word) like that.


I am short (five foot two on a good day with shoes)
I am aprox 100 lbs (depending on the time of the month)
and I am very fine boned (as my gramma says)


You never see birth announcements that say " Mr. & Mrs. John Smith gave birth to a petite baby boy today." So why do we call little yorkies Teacups?? TO MAKE MONEY!!!

SoCalyorkiLvr 05-22-2005 10:17 PM

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Originally Posted by yorkiesRmine
Well she said it plain and simple...! Just as what I'm saying..."Tea Cup" means a smaller dog! So when anyone's specify a tea cup you immediately know what they are referring to. So it doesn't cause any confusion by stating what size the dog is, Tea Cup for small, or Tiny....and then Med, then large. Pretty simple!

I totally agree! IMHO, it is simply a matter of semantics and I don't understand all the uproar it creates everytime someone uses the word "teacup". It's just a word and it is used to denote size. It is used by good and bad breeders alike and is not used "solely for the purpose of marketing". I avoid using the term because it is so controversial but then I have also been told that "tiny" is not appropriate either so I have started using the weight as the measurement when I discuss the subject of size.

I think it makes yorkie fanciers sound sort of ridiculous and less credible when they make such a big deal about a word. We need to accept the fact that the term exists and is not going anywhere. In fact, it is becoming more common. Target uses it as a size designation in their doggy clothing line as do several other popular clothing lines. We may not like it but to insist that the small size does not exist makes us appear to be ignorant. Of course they exist.

It is true that it may mean something different to different people so it is always best to ask how they define it. Most breeders I know that use the term teacup are referring to a dog who will probably be less than 5 lbs as an adult. Some people place the cut off at 4 lbs.

SoCalyorkiLvr 05-22-2005 10:24 PM

SIZE, STRUCTURE, WEIGHT? What is the Best Measurement?
 
I am so used to yorkie size being defined by their weight, but yet I have noticed that the true measure of a yorkie is their structure at adulthood and not the weight.

Why do we not judge the adult size of a puppy by it's structure at a certain age rather than it's weight? For instance, 5" ht and 5" length. They are supposed to be a perfect square, or so I have been told. Is it because this measurement is less accurate than a scale?

I know adult yorkies that look like they are really small and you would guess they weigh 3 lbs by their structure, but they are actually 5 lbers who are solid muscle. Some have a delicate, lite weight bone structure, but they can be taller and longer and only weigh 4 lbs while others can have thicker ,heavier bones but be shorte legged and shorter in length but weigh 5 or 6 lbs.

Has anyone else noticed this?

Julie1 05-22-2005 10:31 PM

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Originally Posted by yorkiesRmine
Who made up the term "petite"...like everything else. it's just a WORD. And people know what you mean when you say "tea cup", but if you rather, I can say runt instead, since that is the correct "term".

I think the french "made up" the word petite as it's the French word for small.

Julie1 05-22-2005 10:33 PM

My reason for disliking the term teacup is we are in danger of destroying a hardy terrier breed with this fashion for smaller and smaller dogs.

SoCalyorkiLvr 05-22-2005 11:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Julie1
My reason for disliking the term teacup is we are in danger of destroying a hardy terrier breed with this fashion for smaller and smaller dogs.

There does seem to be an inherent perception that the smaller the yorkie, the more health problems. I have not found this to be the case, but maybe others with more experience can elaborate. I do know that the super super tinies like 2 lbs and under are more prone to hypoglycemia which continue throughout their lives and does not end with puppyhood as it does with the larger dogs. I think they also have more open fontanels and there are special precautions necessary for anexthesia. There are the obvious concerns for safety since they are so small but I think those concerns exists for all yorkies. Doors, falling/jumping from high places, being stepped on, being attacked by a larger dog, getting out through holes in fences, drowning, birds of prey, coyotes, etc. are all safety concerns for our babies.

I just wonder how much more of a health concern there is for a below breed standard weight yorkie than one within the standard or if the statisitics exist? I know that they used to allege health issues with the "off colors" which have never been proven and were, in my opinion, simply a rationalization in the past for killing puppies that were not within the breed standard. As far as I am aware chocolate, parti and Biewer yorkies are just as healthy as any other yorkie of traditional color.


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