Originally Posted by woofshepherd (Post 931263)

I was told by my vet that the second puppy that had the kennel cough had a foreign strain that is from some other country and it is hard to cure here in the states.

Originally Posted by Bdmcs324 (Post 929616)

I just have a question for valbholmes ... if those are REALLY your puppies why on one post the name was Iternity and the other it was Eternity. This couldnt be a typo seeing as the E and I are a pretty good distance apart ... im just saying I know I wouldnt confuse or use the wrong name for my puppy:confused:

Originally Posted by jmetts (Post 930868)

what a post. I had planned on going to bed early last night, but instead was up into the wee hours reading, after finding this post for the first time. So, tired this morning....I have to put in my 2 cents.

Not to speak for others......but I think that the point of many here is that puppy mills are just not good. Dogs are not livestock that should be mass produced. Dogs are companion animals & need to form bonds with people from the start.

Yes, sometimes puppies do get sick & sometimes die......even with a reputable breeder, thats just nature. But with small breeding programs, if this were to happen, the breeder would not only be emotionally involved as much as the new forever owners, they would also try to uncover the why behind the sickness & work to ensure that it isn't something that is in their line. Good breeders take a lot of time and care when matching up a pair of dogs to breed to ensure not only breed standard, but optimum health.

When mass breeding dogs, each individual puppy is not getting the attention they need. Even if they are living in the most immaculate cage. If they have different staff members caring for them at different times, then who can really tell if there has been a change in the dogs personality, activity level, eating or bathroom habits, etc. that may indicate that there could be a health problem. Even if the staff are the most loving people on earth (and Im sure that most are).

I have no problem with anyone who has bought a dog from a mill, as I have in the past too. Not everyone knows the good and the bad. I fortunately never had bad luck, but now that I do know more......I will always find a small experienced breeder. I don't think anyone on here would not welcome a member just because of where they got their furbaby.

Originally Posted by cj125 (Post 931726)

Brushy Creek - just how many names are you going to use?
Valbholmes
Sunshine268
Dobiedude
BrushyCreek
I don't mind the posts, but you're only allowed one user name - so please man up and pick one! Please quit playing these "games" - we all know it's you. It's a sad show of desperation and not helping your "cause".

Originally Posted by cj125 (Post 931726)

Brushy Creek - just how many names are you going to use?
Valbholmes
Sunshine268
Dobiedude
BrushyCreek
I don't mind the posts, but you're only allowed one user name - so please man up and pick one! Please quit playing these "games" - we all know it's you. It's a sad show of desperation and not helping your "cause".

Originally Posted by CO_yorkie_momma (Post 931923)

I really dont think it is the same person but definately acquaintances of BC. The only one I think was actually BC was SparklinEyes. They could be using different computers even if they are the same person so it would be hard to say.

Originally Posted by cj125 (Post 931726)

Brushy Creek - just how many names are you going to use?
Valbholmes
Sunshine268
Dobiedude
BrushyCreek
I don't mind the posts, but you're only allowed one user name - so please man up and pick one! Please quit playing these "games" - we all know it's you. It's a sad show of desperation and not helping your "cause".

Originally Posted by JiggityJig (Post 930574)

Exactly what I was thinking.

Sunshine, I read your post, and respect your experience and your opinion. But consider: if they are doing "everything humanly possible to take the utmost care of the dogs", and there are STILL all these problems with sick dogs, dirty dogs, and people receiving the WRONG DOGS, etc....wouldn't that right there indicate that they are dealing with TOO MANY DANG DOGS?!?!

I'm sorry, I don't mean to be disrespectful, but it just seems so obvious! How can a breeder POSSIBLY send the wrong dog to someone....not just once...but time after time! Maybe it's being done deliberately (the old bait and switch) and maybe it's not...but even if it's not, it certainly indicates that SOMETHING is wrong there!

Maybe they keep the kennel as clean as "humanly possible", and maybe the dogs are interacted with as much as possible, and maybe their health is looked after as much as possible, and maybe there are PLENTY of happy customers out there. But the same complaints have been heard enough, over and over, from different people, that it's obvious there is a problem. And the problem has a name:

"PUPPY MILL"