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JeanieK 01-08-2007 01:49 PM

I believe those who deliberately seek out and pay big money for the tiny ones do it for attention. Look what I have, something different that not many people have.

But it's like buying a new car, once the novelty wears off it's just a mode of transportation. And with the dogs, once the novelty wears off, it's just a dog.

Now some people buy what they believe will be in the 4 to 6 or 7 pound range and end up with a tiny. that's a different story.

Kbsqueff 01-08-2007 01:49 PM

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Originally Posted by browniesmom622
i was just saying usless someone is looking into sneaking a dog in size really doesnt matter
you dont have to have a 3 pound dog to take it with you

no store owner is gonna want any dog over 25 pounds in there store

I agree that I don't have to have a 1 kg dog to take w/ me... and no store owner will let me come in w/ a 45-50 kg dog... I already tried though, LOL...

But I was trying to explain, in my way, that small dogs are easier to take to places!!!

vainchick5 01-08-2007 01:49 PM

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Originally Posted by ARCHIE
Originally Posted by vainchick5
I am confussed regarding this post. The word obsessing was never mentioned
anywhere in my post! Obsessing over what? Of course there is nothing wrong in wanting any size dog. Why are posts always changed somewhere down the thread to read the opposite of what it started out to be? Sorry that this is going in the wrong place because it was not my intention. I guess I read differently than others. Let this thread die before it gets out of hand.


Caro & Buddy

I apologize for misrepresenting your original post but I had just finished reading another "don't get a tiny yorkie" post and that word must have been stuck in my mind. I think these kinds of things are always controversial because it is insulting to many people. I for one don't think your intentions were bad, but it seems like every other person with a larger yorkie is posting about why not to get or want a tiny. The only answer as to higher demand for one size or another is just preferences. No real answer. Just like how everyone picks the breed they want. When you pick a particular breed and pay lots of money for it (though I don't believe in overcharging because it's tiny), you expect it to be within the standard. Its true the little ones sometimes need more care but if you have the time and love to give, why not? :p

browniesmom622 01-08-2007 01:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Kbsqueff
I agree that I don't have to have a 1 kg dog to take w/ me... and no store owner will let me come in w/ a 45-50 kg dog... I already tried though, LOL...

But I was trying to explain, in my way, that small dogs are easier to take to places!!!

i have seen someone complain about a store owner letting in a 4 pound chi and not a great dane
some people just dont see the difference lol

lksdolls 01-08-2007 02:05 PM

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I think I can answer this question with some authority. Let me put it this way, the only difference between our 14.5 pound tubby Tucker and our 2.5 pound Peanut is Tucker lays around on his back all day while Peanut is like a Mexican jumping bean. And she is just as healthy as the rest of our 12 pack. And I should add, she is very independent and the trouble maker of the bunch. She's always picking on Roxie, pulling her by the tail across the room.

Cheaper by the dozen???? Left to right, top to bottom, listed by age and pretty much by size too. Tucker is 6 years old and Peanut is 6 months old.

Tucker, Sassy, MoJo, Sissy
Gizmo, Bo, Roxie, Feebie
Dinky, Lovey Girl, Star, and little Peanut

RascalLucy 01-08-2007 02:10 PM

I like having a teacup when I can throw her in my purse and go, I want her to be a teapot when the hawks are flying over my house. There are up sides and down sides to both sizes. Both are cute and lovable. Lucy's ears are down and I thought I needed to defend that for some reason, I know that some people look down on that. But the truth is I love her ears down, because they are on her, and I love her just the way she is. So I don't care what anyone else thinks about her ears or size, or what someone will say about her. We all need to feel that way about our yorkies sizes also. As long as we love them just the way they are, who cares?

Bama Yorkie Mom 01-08-2007 02:14 PM

Their all as pretty as can be. So why do these threads come up so often?
Beats me. I just think its rude of anyone to want to tell someone else what they should or shouldnt buy or why they shouldnt buy certain ones. I'd be willing to bet at least or more than 50% of the people on here have a yorkie under 6 lbs. I've never figured out why its such a controversial thread. If everyone likes what they have then its a great world. Personally, I didnt want to spend 1500 or 2000 dollars to pay for my dogs but to me their as pretty and sweet as anybodys. I dont know that i've ever seen a dog I would pay 2000 bucks for. So to everyone, LOL, dont worry, be happy. Lots of people would like to have 2000 dollars just to buy things they actually need. Not including a dog. Personally, i'm not rich by no means, but i'm comfortable. And I could of paid 2000 dollars for a dog but I just dont see the point in it. But I dont blame anyone that did if thats what they wanted to do. I just hope nobody ever starts another thread about this. Love what ya got and be thankful you could afford one of any size.:)

yiya 01-08-2007 02:22 PM

This is certainly a interesting subject. Just to put my 2 cents in as advice from my vet. When I told her that I was going to look for a Yorkie she said that they were very nice dogs but to be careful if someone tries to sell me a :"teacup" puppy. A lot of people might represent them as teacups but as most of the posts said, there are standards for Yorkies and no such thing as a "teacup" Yorkie. (I did one time see a pup in person that was advertise as a "teacup poodle" and literally this tiny 12 week puppy was sitting in the pet-store in a tiny china tea-cup.) Anyway, the only advice my vet told me was when I look for a Yorkie that I should see the parents if size is important to me. (It was). That I should make sure that the parents were no bigger than standards and even that couldn't guarantee anything. The smaller the puppy, the potential "more" problems that the dog could develop with such things as their heart and kidneys because of the size of them. The only thing that she absolutely was insistent on was that we never sleep with our Cosmo. She said that in a very short amount of time (2 months) she had 2 very small breeds of dogs that slept with their owners and the owners rolled over on the dogs and broke one of their backs and the other owner caused so many internal injuries that the dog had to put to sleep. I have a little playpen by my bed and when I get tired I just lift Cosmo into the playpen and he curls up and goes to sleep in his bed. But my baby is 5 lbs 3 ozs. A spitfire. and the only thing that really scares me is when my German Shepard is playing hard with him (I'll make them stop) or if my 3 year old grandson is run back and forth with the pup and Cosmo is under his feet. Lets face it, a 3 year old is going to break a leg on a dog if they are 5 lbs or if they are 15 lbs and fall on the dog. So I usually air on the side of caution. The only other thing that I am very, very cautious about is never leaving my dog outside by himself. We live on a lake and there are a ton of strangers driving by all the time. I just wouldn't want anyone to drive off with him. He is litter box trained so the only time he goes out is when I'm out gardening or I take him for walks. Just my opinion and a word of advise from a very good vet.

Monday 01-08-2007 02:33 PM

what a beauty
 
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Originally Posted by ehunney
I personally like the idea of them looking like puppies forever. I'm not going to lie, what attracted me to yorkies was mainly their faces, their tiny size, gorgeous coats, and feisty personalities.

you have one BEAUTIFUL doggie ... I admire the way you keep him/her groomed .... simply gorgeous!

Monday 01-08-2007 02:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Nancy1999
The number one reason I wanted a small dog (drum roll) . . . . . SMALL POOP.


Nancy

Oh sooo true ... I didn't even think about that ... but it sure is a benefit!!!!
and yes, that is one beautiful Yorkie!!!

Monday 01-08-2007 02:55 PM

don't we all love our babies no matter what!
 
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Originally Posted by RascalLucy
I like having a teacup when I can throw her in my purse and go, I want her to be a teapot when the hawks are flying over my house. There are up sides and down sides to both sizes. Both are cute and lovable. Lucy's ears are down and I thought I needed to defend that for some reason, I know that some people look down on that. But the truth is I love her ears down, because they are on her, and I love her just the way she is. So I don't care what anyone else thinks about her ears or size, or what someone will say about her. We all need to feel that way about our yorkies sizes also. As long as we love them just the way they are, who cares?

would we defend our children if they were shorter or taller? If their eyes, ears, nose, or mouth were too big? Too small? We do not get to pick our biological kids ... and we do not ridicule other people's children ...

I love the floppy ear look ... I did not realize it was not standard ... maybe I would not have let Monday's ears get so heavy with hair, but I think it looks so cute! I do not even think of having them trimmed .... when we got Monday the breeder told us -- and I quote, "That one won't go over 5 lbs." ...
Since I had been a Siberian Husky owner-lover before, I did not know why he said that! Now Monday is short of 5 lbs. and we did have trouble with her digestive system but thatz cleared up ... she is just adorable to me as is .... I wouldn't change a thing.
Why some breeders breed to be small, is a good question, but as long as there is demand there will be supply. So who is really to blame????:rolleyes:

Reesie 01-08-2007 02:58 PM

The main reason we decided to get a yorkie was because they are so differant.
Size,Color,Temper,Petite face,Teddy Bear face,Big,Small,Energetic,Calm,Shy,Like's Kid's,Doesn't Like Kid's,Picky eater,Easy to Potty Train,Not easy. I mean I could go on and on. That's what makes this breed so interesting. What I enjoy the most about YT is getting to look at all pictures. It makes you one of each.

Sugar's Mom 01-08-2007 03:31 PM

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Originally Posted by BubblPopElectrc
Not to be rude, and this isn't directed only at you, but why does everyone get all in arms when people prefer "standard" (under seven pounds according to AKC) yorkies?

To be frank, If I wanted a "teapot" sized dog, I'd go with a larger breed who's standard is larger.

I so agree with you and I am probably going to make some people mad but I am a very blunt spoken person and frankly, I wouldn't have one that is over seven pounds. I don't like the looks of them and the three to five pounds are even better. JMO.

red98vett 01-08-2007 03:47 PM

:( :( :( :( :( Chanel is vewy sad you don't like da voluptious girls....but vewy glad her mommy loves her just the way she is :D :D :D

chachi 01-08-2007 03:48 PM

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Originally Posted by red98vett
:( :( :( :( :( Chanel is vewy sad you don't like da voluptious girls....but vewy glad her mommy loves her just the way she is :D :D :D

Chanel is gorgeous

ehunney 01-08-2007 03:55 PM

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Originally Posted by red98vett
:( :( :( :( :( Chanel is vewy sad you don't like da voluptious girls....but vewy glad her mommy loves her just the way she is :D :D :D

Chaci's right! Chanel is so gorgeous, when I first joined YT, I showed every last person in my family her picture and they couldn't believe she was real!

jrsygal37 01-08-2007 03:56 PM

I have three larger than standard Yorkies and my whole life just wanted a Yorkie of atleast standard size. All three of my Yorkies were rescues sort of speak but each came to us as a pup. My birthday was in October and hubby said to me "You've always wanted a small Yorkie, I want you to treat yourself and look for a little girl that is actually going to stay small." Well, we all know that size is hard to predict so... I ended up finding my little one in the classified section of our local paper. She is under four pounds 3 pounds 10 oz. but came to us a bit malnourished. The person that had her wasn't thrilled with her and decided to sell her. Tia was almost nine months when I got her so the upside to the age was knowing that she was just about done with growing and also we knew her temperment and her look. Being mom to the bigger Yorks and also a mom to the so called "Teacup" pup I can say that Tia is pretty sturdy. She's not as breakable as she looks BUT you def. have to be much more careful with her. There is always the added risk of stepping on her and causing serious injury. We all know how these velcro pups love moving in between our feet. If you clip one of the standard Yorkies they Yelp but you really don't do damage, but if you step on a tiny you WILL hurt them. With that said I have to also admit that I love all my Yorkies BUT I am able to enjoy Tia in different ways, then with the others. For instance she loves to go in the car so because of her size I am able to take her with me a lot of places and bring her in the story in her carrier which really looks like just a bigger handbag. I would never be able to do that with my other three. Hell Noel weighs 16 pounds I'd need a wheel barrel for her. LOL. There are ups and downs of having a tiny as compared to the standards. And, I do know from several posts on here that it does seem like there is an issue with hyperclicimia with the little ones. The vet says that in most cases this risk is only till they are around a year but even so you really do have to for their rest of their lives take extra care in making sure they eat enough. And, you have to worry about the cold days for pottying. For this reason I keep Tia wee wee pad trained. There are pros and cons I guess for each standard and tiny. Elaine.

stewartdogs 01-08-2007 03:57 PM

Now I am Confused
 
I was under the impression that tiny Yorkies (3 lbs. and below) did require more care and cost more money to have vetted. I was under the impression that tiny Yorkies were more likely to have medical problems and the medical problems that they do have will be harder and more expensive to treat because of their size. Is this not true?
If it is true I can understand why some people would opt for the larger end of the breed standard so that they don't have those extra worries on top normal dog care worries. However, I can also see how someone would be in a position where they can handle the extra responsibility of a tiny Yorkie and decide that is what they would prefer.
At first when I began looking for a Yorkie I wanted a tiny one, but they are almost alway quite a bit more expensive than a pup that is going to be at the larger end of the standard, so that kept me from being able to purchase one. Since then I have been relieved that I did not get a tiny because I don't know that we would have been a good home for a tiny.
The reason I wanted a tiny was because they are more portable. You can stick them in a purse or up under you coat and right in to almost anywhere with out them being noticed. There is just something that draws people, or at least Americans to tiny or minature animals.
No matter what I am happy with our little Tugboat, who will end up right at the breed standard. He is of course a doll, but I know that a tiny would not be a good idea in my home, but I understand the draw to them and I don't see anything wrong with someone wanting a tiny.
That being said I also believe that the high popularity of the tiny babies is a detrement becasue there are a lot of people breeding tiny Yorkies who have NO bussiness breeding flies, much less Yorkies. It is my opinon that the bad breeding practices are why we have some of the problems with the tiny babies. I think that we all just need to educate people how important it is to buy from a reputable breeder, ESPECIALLY is you are buying a tiny.

Sorry I got so long winded.

troubletb 01-08-2007 04:20 PM

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Originally Posted by stewartdogs
I was under the impression that tiny Yorkies (3 lbs. and below) did require more care and cost more money to have vetted. I was under the impression that tiny Yorkies were more likely to have medical problems and the medical problems that they do have will be harder and more expensive to treat because of their size. Is this not true?


This is true, as a lot of tinies have problems, because of bad breeding habits. But there are some that are tiny and are as healthy as a big one.. Take my three for example. Bell 8 lbs Lilly 9lbs and then Petey 3.5lbs All completely healthy..
;)

Maddie-Rudy-Mom 01-08-2007 04:21 PM

I am blessed with four all very different yorkies. Maddie is 11 lbs, 4years old, Rudy is 10 lbs, 3 years old, Polly is 3 lbs, 2 years old, and Sprout is 15 months, less than 3 lbs. I have read a lot of thread that talk about the small ones not being as healthy, my two small ones are very healthy, they were not breed to be small just happened to stay small. I don't understand why size is such a big deal, HEALTH is much more important and buying from a good breeder. Just like people, yorkies come in all sizes. I love my teapots as much as I love my tinies.

FlDebra 01-08-2007 04:30 PM

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Originally Posted by lksdolls
I think I can answer this question with some authority. ....
Cheaper by the dozen????
Tucker, Sassy, MoJo, Sissy
Gizmo, Bo, Roxie, Feebie
Dinky, Lovey Girl, Star, and little Peanut

WOW -- Yorkie Heaven on Earth! What a beautiful collage. Everyone of them is beautiful in their own right.

browniesmom622 01-08-2007 04:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Sugar's Mom
I so agree with you and I am probably going to make some people mad but I am a very blunt spoken person and frankly, I wouldn't have one that is over seven pounds. I don't like the looks of them and the three to five pounds are even better. JMO.

i just wanted to say i dont think size makes any dog better than another
there ALL great dogs

red98vett 01-08-2007 04:44 PM

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Originally Posted by ehunney
Chaci's right! Chanel is so gorgeous, when I first joined YT, I showed every last person in my family her picture and they couldn't believe she was real!

Awwwww....thank you !! That's so nice of you to say - I was yanking Sugar's Mom's chain but I think ALL yorkies are special.....:) :)

while this thread was interesting - I know if I do get another ...health & spunkiness (again) will be my first concern.

I would love to have a very small yorkie but then again - I like my average sized girls - I don't have to stress out over every little thing - It's easy to stress out on these guys at any size cause they're actually all very small.

lksdolls 01-08-2007 04:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Maddie-Rudy-Mom
I am blessed with four all very different yorkies. Maddie is 11 lbs, 4years old, Rudy is 10 lbs, 3 years old, Polly is 3 lbs, 2 years old, and Sprout is 15 months, less than 3 lbs. I have read a lot of thread that talk about the small ones not being as healthy, my two small ones are very healthy, they were not breed to be small just happened to stay small. I don't understand why size is such a big deal, HEALTH is much more important and buying from a good breeder. Just like people, yorkies come in all sizes. I love my teapots as much as I love my tinies.

Health should be the number one reason when breeding, not color, not size. Unfortunately, the small pups are over-breed and in-breed, many of them from south of the border, because of the demand and health is not their priority, money is. So because of their actions, it is commonly assumed that all tiny yorkies will have health issues. Just be careful where you get your tiny from and know how it was raised......in a cage or from in a loving home.

lksdolls 01-08-2007 04:57 PM

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Originally Posted by FlDebra
WOW -- Yorkie Heaven on Earth! What a beautiful collage. Everyone of them is beautiful in their own right.

Thank you. I think they are all beautiful differently and with different personalities to match. Can you imagine how boring it would be if they all looked alike? Although I can tell them all apart, almost instantly, there are times that I mix up Sassy and Sissy or Feebie and Lovey. And sometimes I think Bo is Sassy, or MoJo is Bo. Tucker is not hard to confuse and neither is Gizmo or Dinky. They have their own distinctive look. Oh well, I love them all just the same. But Heaven on Earth...........you haven't been in our backyard. Looks pretty much like a mine pit from all the digging for what ever "might" be there. They have a path worn from the back door to the back of the yard, just in case there might be something in the alley. Oh yes, our yard is fenced in so they do have the freedom to run.

TootiesMom 01-08-2007 05:49 PM

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Originally Posted by ArielsMom
Hmm, well, I think it would be great to have the best of both worlds then...one larger to do the ruff and tough stuff with and one tiny to carry around and to be a puppy forever!!!

As the Very PROUD Mom of one TeaKETTLE(Tootie 16 lbs) and a Tiny(Hope 4 1/2 lbs) I can honestly say I have the BEST OF BOTH WORLDS!

I knew nothing about yorkies when I got Tootie except I thought they were so fun and always happy.... THEN I found Hopey and am lucky enough to have both ends of the spectrum. Tootie is the total opposite of "standard" but he is the bestest little boy in the world!

I Love My Babies!!!!

TootiesMom 01-08-2007 05:52 PM

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Originally Posted by red98vett
:( :( :( :( :( Chanel is vewy sad you don't like da voluptious girls....but vewy glad her mommy loves her just the way she is :D :D :D

Tootie loves Chanel just the way she is... woo hooo......

BlondieGirl87 01-08-2007 05:58 PM

I don't know, when I first saw a yorkie it was a tiny one, just about 3 and a half pounds and was the sweetest thing I had ever met! I absolutely fell in love with him and knew I had to have one. When I went looking for one I did want him to be AKC and be within the standard just because that was what I was looking forward. If I wanted a "bigger" dog (I put that in quotation marks because 13 pounds isn't really big just big for a yorkie) I would've gone with a different type of dog. Just like if I wanted a great dane I wouldn't want one that was 40 pounds, in buying a yorkie I wouldn't want one that was over the standard. I think they are cute but for my lifestyle I don't think a bigger one would be as happy here as my tiny ones are.

BlondieGirl87 01-08-2007 05:59 PM

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Originally Posted by TootiesMom
Tootie loves Chanel just the way she is... woo hooo......

Jaden thinks Chanel is a doll! He loves her braids!

Amanda7 01-08-2007 07:42 PM

I had 7lb yorkies all my life. One day it dawned on me that I NEEDED more. I wanted MORE YORKIE to love. So I sought out larger males and now I have Baxter at 13 lbs, and Snickers at 8lbs. When I pick them up and cuddle, it's yorkie heaven.

This is the reason why I like the larger ones. More to love.


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