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iheartzoe 01-03-2007 06:53 AM
Yorkie Runt Question
 
Hi everyone~I'm new to yorkie talk and have a question about my new baby Zoe. I went to visit the breeder and picked her out when she was 5 weeks old. At that time she was only 6 ounces! Since she was so small the breeder left her to nurse until 7 weeks old. She is 8 weeks now and 2 lbs. I have seen the yorkie growth chart (which says she should be 6 lbs fully grown) but the breeder said since she was so tiny at birth and even at 5 weeks that she should end up around 4 lbs. If anyone is able to help me figure out a general idea of how big she would be it would be much appreciated! :)

Kimbers Mommy 01-03-2007 06:55 AM
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Originally Posted by iheartzoe
Hi everyone~I'm new to yorkie talk and have a question about my new baby Zoe. I went to visit the breeder and picked her out when she was 5 weeks old. At that time she was only 6 ounces! Since she was so small the breeder left her to nurse until 7 weeks old. She is 8 weeks now and 2 lbs. I have seen the yorkie growth chart (which says she should be 6 lbs fully grown) but the breeder said since she was so tiny at birth and even at 5 weeks that she should end up around 4 lbs. If anyone is able to help me figure out a general idea of how big she would be it would be much appreciated! :)
Try not to worry about the size so much as her personality and if it is what you are looking for. Be aware that the breeder should not be using such terms as "teacup" "toy" or the sickly "micro mini" - these are not part of the breed standard, where the weight should be no more than 7 pounds for a Yorkshire Terrier.

Also be weary of how small she will be as it is a lot more work and worry. They say my girl will be 3-4 pounds and I am hoping for 4 or more, I want her to be as healthy as possible!

~Yorkie~Mommy~ 01-03-2007 07:02 AM
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Originally Posted by iheartzoe
Hi everyone~I'm new to yorkie talk and have a question about my new baby Zoe. I went to visit the breeder and picked her out when she was 5 weeks old. At that time she was only 6 ounces! Since she was so small the breeder left her to nurse until 7 weeks old. She is 8 weeks now and 2 lbs. I have seen the yorkie growth chart (which says she should be 6 lbs fully grown) but the breeder said since she was so tiny at birth and even at 5 weeks that she should end up around 4 lbs. If anyone is able to help me figure out a general idea of how big she would be it would be much appreciated! :)
Like Kimbers said don't worry about the size too much because the smaller the more worries.....by what you told me your yorkie adult weight will be probably 7 lbs but thats still small for a pet....Do you have something in writing from the breeder or if it means that much make a phone call it can't hurt JMO

iheartzoe 01-03-2007 07:03 AM
I am not super worried about her size - she has a wonderful personality, and I know thats what counts. The breeder did not use any of those terms, and I definately understand that teacup, etc are just descriptive words and are ploys for breeders to charge more. The breeder I got Zoe from did charge me slightly more for her because they expected her to be smaller than the rest of their pups, so that is why I am trying to figure out how big she will get. If she will be around 6 lbs I am going to get a bit of my money back, since they sold her for more because of her size. Thanks for the quick reply though! :)

iheartzoe 01-03-2007 07:05 AM
Yorkie-mommy : i cant see her getting to be 7 lbs when she was only 6 ounces at 5 weeks old...what is your basis behind your opinion? thanks for the help

SweetCuteness 01-03-2007 07:05 AM
First off, welcome to YT!

The growth chart you saw is just an estimate. There is no way to know exactly how much your pup will weigh full grown. The breeder can also only make an estimate. I've heard of really small furbabies becoming 7 or 8 pounds. It just depends on if they get a growth spurt or not.

My pup was 1.6 pounds at 9 weeks old when I got him (his two brothers were also small). His parents were 5 and 7 pounds, but he is almost 8 months old now and only just over 3 pounds. :cool: I'm hoping he gets another growth spurt, but there's just no telling. I spoke with the breeder a few days ago, and my pup's brothers are both 4-5 pounds now.

SweetCuteness 01-03-2007 07:08 AM
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Originally Posted by iheartzoe
Yorkie-mommy : i cant see her getting to be 7 lbs when she was only 6 ounces at 5 weeks old...what is your basis behind your opinion? thanks for the help

Some have a slower start at their growth. There is no exact science to telling how much a pup will weigh full-grown. But if your pup is 2lbs at 8 weeks, that's not that small.

yougetthesmiles 01-03-2007 07:09 AM
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Originally Posted by iheartzoe
I am not super worried about her size - she has a wonderful personality, and I know thats what counts. The breeder did not use any of those terms, and I definately understand that teacup, etc are just descriptive words and are ploys for breeders to charge more. The breeder I got Zoe from did charge me slightly more for her because they expected her to be smaller than the rest of their pups, so that is why I am trying to figure out how big she will get. If she will be around 6 lbs I am going to get a bit of my money back, since they sold her for more because of her size. Thanks for the quick reply though! :)
Hello and welcome to YT!! Congrats on your new puppy!

1st off I will say that size is just a # and even if your baby gets to be 10lbs, I'm sure you will love her just as much!

I think what your breeder did was wrong by charging you a little extra for her cause she "thinks" she will be smaller! What if she does reach 6lbs? Will she give you the extra money back that she charged you? To me that was a red flag on that breeder and I'm afraid I would have walked.

any way, I'm sure you will love her so much and I know she will bring you much joy! Thats what Yorkies do!

~Yorkie~Mommy~ 01-03-2007 07:10 AM
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Originally Posted by SweetCuteness
Some have a slower start at their growth. There is no exact science to telling how much a pup will weigh full-grown. But if your pup is 2lbs at 8 weeks, that's not that small.
Exactly

yougetthesmiles 01-03-2007 07:10 AM
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Originally Posted by SweetCuteness
Some have a slower start at their growth. There is no exact science to telling how much a pup will weigh full-grown. But if your pup is 2lbs at 8 weeks, that's not that small.
2 lbs at 8 weeks is pretty big, my girl is almost 10 months and weighs 3 lbs

iheartzoe 01-03-2007 07:11 AM
yeah, she's not super tiny - although 2 lbs seems small to me, i guess its not small for a yorkie. Just makes me a little annoyed, since I specifically got her because she was small and of course because of her personality.

~Yorkie~Mommy~ 01-03-2007 07:13 AM
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Originally Posted by iheartzoe
yeah, she's not super tiny - although 2 lbs seems small to me, i guess its not small for a yorkie. Just makes me a little annoyed, since I specifically got her because she was small and of course because of her personality.
Do you think the breeder will give you some money back if its not the size she stated?

Kimbers Mommy 01-03-2007 07:14 AM
My girl weighed 2 pound 8 ounces at 16 weeks.... she's 17 weeks now but I think she looks bigger than that. I'm sure she'll have a growth spurt!

Ladyhawk 01-03-2007 07:15 AM
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Originally Posted by iheartzoe
Yorkie-mommy : i cant see her getting to be 7 lbs when she was only 6 ounces at 5 weeks old...what is your basis behind your opinion? thanks for the help
WOW if she grew that fast in 3 weeks she should have stretch marks! 2 lbs. at 8 weeks is a good sized girl. It really doesn't matter how much she weighed at birth, one of my smallest pups ended up being my largest adult. You just can't tell! It's wrong for a breeder to charge more for a smaller pup but when the pup is under 12 weeks old it's ridiculous! Most likely once the competition for food let up the little one was able to eat enough to catch up. I'd definitely look into getting some money back. Just enjoy your baby, 6 lbs. is a great size and only God knows what size she'll really end up being.

iheartzoe 01-03-2007 07:15 AM
it shocks me that she went from 6 ounces at 5 weeks to 2 lbs at 8 weeks...is that a normal growth spurt? :confused:

yougetthesmiles 01-03-2007 07:16 AM
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Originally Posted by ~Yorkie~Mommy~
Do you think the breeder will give you some money back if its not the size she stated?
I think she should give her money back if she does reach full weight. I think thats bull crap that these breeders are trying to charge extra for a "tiny" Actually they should charge less for the smaller ones, cause a lot of smaller yorkies end up needing more medical attention.

yougetthesmiles 01-03-2007 07:18 AM
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Originally Posted by iheartzoe
it shocks me that she went from 6 ounces at 5 weeks to 2 lbs at 8 weeks...is that a normal growth spurt? :confused:
16 oz is a pound, so for her to jump 2lbs in 3 weeks seems a little much to me.

iheartzoe 01-03-2007 07:21 AM
Lady Hawk - where in VA are you located?

~Yorkie~Mommy~ 01-03-2007 07:21 AM
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Originally Posted by Ladyhawk
WOW if she grew that fast in 3 weeks she should have stretch marks! 2 lbs. at 8 weeks is a good sized girl. It really doesn't matter how much she weighed at birth, one of my smallest pups ended up being my largest adult. You just can't tell! It's wrong for a breeder to charge more for a smaller pup but when the pup is under 12 weeks old it's ridiculous! Most likely once the competition for food let up the little one was able to eat enough to catch up. I'd definitely look into getting some money back. Just enjoy your baby, 6 lbs. is a great size and only God knows what size she'll really end up being.
No my Best friends cousin was almost the same size and now she is 7 lbs so OK 6-7 lbs give or take......You can never be certain as I said probably ;)

YorkieMom55 01-03-2007 07:22 AM
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Originally Posted by iheartzoe
it shocks me that she went from 6 ounces at 5 weeks to 2 lbs at 8 weeks...is that a normal growth spurt? :confused:
Our last 2 litters they gained around a pound each between 4 & 8 wks.

~Yorkie~Mommy~ 01-03-2007 07:23 AM
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Originally Posted by yougetthesmiles
16 oz is a pound, so for her to jump 2lbs in 3 weeks seems a little much to me.
That what I was looking at, because like I said in my earlier post I knew a yorkie that did the same thing...

ehunney 01-03-2007 07:26 AM
Since she had such a major growth spurt in such a short period of time, her weight gain and growth might slow down. Every puppy grows at a different rate. At 10 weeks, my Tucker was 1 pound 10 ounces and he ended up being right under 4.5 lbs. fully grown. 2 pounds is still really small. Also, your puppy may even appear smaller if she has shorter legs and a compact frame. But if this isn't the case I would get dome of my money back.

Ladyhawk 01-03-2007 07:27 AM
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Originally Posted by iheartzoe
Lady Hawk - where in VA are you located?
I'm in Gloucester, on the coast between Newport News (Yorktown) and Middlesex. On the otherside of the York River from Williamsburg. Where are you at? Who's the breeder that you dealt with? Welcome to YT !

iheartzoe 01-03-2007 07:29 AM
I'm in Buchanan, 20 minutes from Roanoke. How do you predict when a puppy you breed will stay small? And what do you generally charge for your babies?

iheartzoe 01-03-2007 07:35 AM
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Originally Posted by ehunney
Since she had such a major growth spurt in such a short period of time, her weight gain and growth might slow down. Every puppy grows at a different rate. At 10 weeks, my Tucker was 1 pound 10 ounces and he ended up being right under 4.5 lbs. fully grown. 2 pounds is still really small. Also, your puppy may even appear smaller if she has shorter legs and a compact frame. But if this isn't the case I would get dome of my money back.
where do you live in VA?

Ladyhawk 01-03-2007 07:37 AM
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Originally Posted by iheartzoe
I'm in Buchanan, 20 minutes from Roanoke. How do you predict when a puppy you breed will stay small? And what do you generally charge for your babies?
I have family in Radford. I use their 12 week size as well as the size of the parents and grandparents. It's still just an estimate though, I got a dog from my breeder that turned out to be 12 lbs. The largest that has ever come from that breeding was 7 lbs. so he was just a flook! He was the best dog ever even though I couldn' t breed him. My base price is $1000. I'll add a bit if they are show potential and they want full registration. I'll deduct a bit if the dog has any nonhealth faults such as oversized. I'm working on joining two lines to create a specific show type and sell for pet only at this time.

iheartzoe 01-03-2007 07:38 AM
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Originally Posted by Ladyhawk
I'm in Gloucester, on the coast between Newport News (Yorktown) and Middlesex. On the otherside of the York River from Williamsburg. Where are you at? Who's the breeder that you dealt with? Welcome to YT !
missed that question - i dealt with Horton's Kennels in Hillsville, VA

iheartzoe 01-03-2007 07:41 AM
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Originally Posted by Ladyhawk
I have family in Radford. I use their 12 week size as well as the size of the parents and grandparents. It's still just an estimate though, I got a dog from my breeder that turned out to be 12 lbs. The largest that has ever come from that breeding was 7 lbs. so he was just a flook! He was the best dog ever even though I couldn' t breed him. My base price is $1000. I'll add a bit if they are show potential and they want full registration. I'll deduct a bit if the dog has any nonhealth faults such as oversized. I'm working on joining two lines to create a specific show type and sell for pet only at this time.
i paid $1000 for her, and the breeders said that they charge 800 usually, so paying an extra $200 for a pup that wont be the size they said seems really wrong of them....off to work now, please continue to post, i definately will be back after my shift (restaurant shifts are short so i'll reply soon! :D )

abbie's mom 01-03-2007 07:55 AM
Tami ~ Wish I'd known about you when I was shopping for a Yorkie! Found Abigail from a lady in White Marsh(?). Not that I'd take anything for my Abbigail - but, I'd probably have gone with someone from YT :D

Ladyhawk 01-03-2007 08:01 AM
The only thing that I've been able to find on Hortons is that they advertise through CKC and they do use the word minis, which always red flags for me. I agree she should reimburse you the $200. She had no business estimating weight at 6 weeks old anyway. I would be wondering if one of my pups was only 6 oz. at 6 weeks old. They are suppose to double their birth weight the first week. If a pup isn't growing that first month there is a problem. I bet he wasn't getting enough milk.


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