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ehunney 10-30-2006 02:00 PM
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Originally Posted by sashajade
yep that is what i mean its not fair on the pups not fair on the breed. breed standard should be whats best for the breed , whats healthy for the breed not what looks good whats fashion. this so called breed standard has made is impossible for bulldogs to give birth cos they have made there heads so big and they have also made there noses so flat they cant breath. pugs the same problem but never mind they look good so who cares? well not the people who make the breed standard thats for sure.:mad:
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sashajade 10-30-2006 02:00 PM
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Originally Posted by ehunney
I don't know about anyone else but I like cute, and don't worry to much about size. I'm not going to lie though, I do adore the tinies (forever looking like puppies;) ), but at the same time I value a good temperment, great coat and cute face over anything else, including size! As long as those things are there I'm pretty much sold.
yep i like the little ones to they are cutie pies but like you say there are more inportant things.:)

sashajade 10-30-2006 02:02 PM
i wonder what the breed standard would be if a panel of vets today made it? i bet it would be different.:)

doortego 10-30-2006 02:03 PM
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what if the breed standard was changed then? to lets say 6 to 10 pound? that would be the new breed standard for a yorkie. :)

I think that the breed standard would be 10 lbs if everyone wanted 10lb Yorkies but that is not the case. Apparently the majority, including myself, want a smaller toy sized dog which is what the Yorkie standard requires. I am definitely not defending a 1# dog, if there is such a thing, but that dog would be within the Yorkie standard while a 10# would not. :aimeeyork

Peters 10-30-2006 02:04 PM
there's an add in my local paper that says the mom is 11lb the dad is 3 lb i was like what in the world?!!

sashajade 10-30-2006 02:13 PM
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Originally Posted by doortego
I think that the breed standard would be 10 lbs if everyone wanted 10lb Yorkies but that is not the case. Apparently the majority, including myself, want a smaller toy sized dog which is what the Yorkie standard requires. I am definitely not defending a 1# dog, if there is such a thing, but that dog would be within the Yorkie standard while a 10# would not. :aimeeyork
but thats my whole point it shouldnt be about what WE want, it should be whats best for the breed. people wanted flatter nosed bigger headed bulldogs and now the breed is paying for it, with there lives.:( we dont know what damage it is doing to the breed, having smaller and smaller yorkies being bred, but in time we will, when the breed is so small it dont even fit in to the breed standard now, when these little mites go in to shock cos there bodies cant cope, when more and more defects happen, when this breed dies out.:( dont get me wrong i think the little ones are really cute and i prefer the smaller yorkie but to me its not good for the breed.:)

browniesmom622 10-30-2006 02:15 PM
i think if you have several people wanting a larger one on a list then i guess it wont be so bad cause some families want yorkies some are to fragile
but i think its wrong when people expect a dog near a certain size then you get a large one
i got brownie at a pet store not knowing any better (and i was pretty stupid) but the girl there even sweared up & down that he wouldn't be over 7 pounds (i know now they can garentee sp? it) but then i believed it
i thought a yorkie was a little- ear up -long coat dog
i got a 18 pound floppyeared yorkie i think its not fair but i wouldn't give him up or change him for anything (besides the barking lol)
i wish more people stuck close to the standard esp on size not all yorkies are perfect in all ways but i think its unfair that breeders don't stick to it & someone not knowing gets the complete opposite to what they wanted
i think if i didn't take brownie he would probably be in some rescue cause of his size
make sure you have homes lined up if you are set on breeding them

sashajade 10-30-2006 02:16 PM
maybe it would be easyier for people to say what is the norm that they see walking down the road or what they think is the right size for a yorkie? as i said in the uk we are more use to seeing larger yorkies so to us this is the norm. as with undocked tails its the norm for us. i would say 10 pound yorkies are the norm in the uk.

ehunney 10-30-2006 02:17 PM
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Originally Posted by doortego
I think that the breed standard would be 10 lbs if everyone wanted 10lb Yorkies but that is not the case. Apparently the majority, including myself, want a smaller toy sized dog which is what the Yorkie standard requires. I am definitely not defending a 1# dog, if there is such a thing, but that dog would be within the Yorkie standard while a 10# would not. :aimeeyork
A 1 # dog is within the standard:eek: I agree with you, I feel bad for the super super little ones:(

gutu28 10-30-2006 02:19 PM
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Originally Posted by ehunney
A 1 # dog is within the standard:eek: I agree with you, I feel bad for the super super little ones:(
No, the breed standard is, I believe 4-7 lbs.

sashajade 10-30-2006 02:22 PM
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Originally Posted by browniesmom622
i think if you have several people wanting a larger one on a list then i guess it wont be so bad cause some families want yorkies some are to fragile
but i think its wrong when people expect a dog near a certain size then you get a large one
i got brownie at a pet store not knowing any better (and i was pretty stupid) but the girl there even sweared up & down that he wouldn't be over 7 pounds (i know now they can garentee sp? it) but then i believed it
i thought a yorkie was a little- ear up -long coat dog
i got a 18 pound floppyeared yorkie i think its not fair but i wouldn't give him up or change him for anything (besides the barking lol)
i wish more people stuck close to the standard esp on size not all yorkies are perfect in all ways but i think its unfair that breeders don't stick to it & someone not knowing gets the complete opposite to what they wanted
i think if i didn't take brownie he would probably be in some rescue cause of his size
make sure you have homes lined up if you are set on breeding them
but then if you saw his size yorkie walking down the road most days and thats what the norm was for what you see then when you went to the shop you would expect that size.:) brandi is 15 pound at the mo but still putting on weight and when the rescue rang me they said she was standard so i thought she would be about 10 to 12 pound, i went to see her and yes i thought blimey shes bigger than i thought , so its about what YOU think is normal.:)

sashajade 10-30-2006 02:23 PM
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Originally Posted by gutu28
No, the breed standard is, I believe 4-7 lbs.
yep i think it is, but i think 4 is to small.:)

sashajade 10-30-2006 02:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Peters
there's an add in my local paper that says the mom is 11lb the dad is 3 lb i was like what in the world?!!
see i would say the mum is fine but the dads to small. :) its all about what you see as normal.

SweetCuteness 10-30-2006 02:26 PM
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Originally Posted by gutu28
No, the breed standard is, I believe 4-7 lbs.
Yeah it's 4-7 pounds.

ehunney 10-30-2006 02:35 PM
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Originally Posted by gutu28
No, the breed standard is, I believe 4-7 lbs.
Phew! Thank goodness!


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