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Chichi · 04-26-2005, 12:59 PM

I'm wondering.... I've been reading lots and lots of threads and the opinions of lots of yorkie owners on tiny yorkies. Why is it that a lot of you think that Yorkies are not supposed to be so small or so expensive.

When I started looking for a pet I didnt know I wanted a Yorkie, I always liked the bigger dogs in fact I used to have large dogs... It turns out that when I saw a tiny yorkie I realized I wanted one just like it and luckily I found her, and she is just the way I wanted her to be, she is not only tiny but she was very expensive but she is also the best dog I have ever had... She loves to play, she is always by my side giving me what I wanted a pet to give me, she sleeps between my husband and I, the first thing I do when I wake up is make her braekfast, I even wake up in the middle of the night to put her in her dipper, I adore her. I love her so much I dont want to be without her ever. So I feel a little weird everytime I read discomfort about an expensive and tiny pup, Please dont take it in a bad way I just want to know why, everyone here is in love with their pets so those things shouldnt matter right???

nemom · 04-26-2005, 01:05 PM

Don't feel bad, Bella was expensive too but I don't care, she is perfect for us. It sounds like yours is perfect for you so who cares how tiny she is or how much you paid!!

chachi · 04-26-2005, 01:07 PM

I think alot of people just try to educate people on the health risks associated with tiny yorkies. Also about breeding of tinys to produce other tinys. Which can have health problems passed on to them.

lily's mom · 04-26-2005, 01:14 PM

I don't think any one is anti-small. If they turn out bigger or smaller, no biggie, we love them anyway. But to go seeking a 1 or 2 pound dog, well that's another story... There are so many risks with them and people who have know idea what they are getting into desperately seek the tinies. Some breeders irresponsibly produce these little bitty things IMO just for the $$$$$$$.

Whitech6 · 04-26-2005, 01:17 PM

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Originally Posted by lily's mom

I don't think any one is anti-small. If they turn out bigger or smaller, no biggie, we love them anyway. But to go seeking a 1 or 2 pound dog, well that's another story... There are so many risks with them and people who have know idea what they are getting into desperately seek the tinies. Some breeders irresponsibly produce these little bitty things IMO just for the $$$$$$$.

I totally agree. Some breeders breed the tinies just for the money.

SoCalyorkiLvr · 04-26-2005, 01:23 PM

Hi ChiChi!

I have yorkies under 4 lbs too and I wouldn't worry about the negativity with regard to tinies. There seems to be a misconception that people may want them for the wrong reasons ( status symbol, fashion accessory), that they are all more fragile and unhealthy than "normal" sized yorkies, or, most importantly, that breeders may be risking the lives and healths of smaller females to breed them to procuce smaller pups because the demand is there.

I agree with you and would have paid twice what I paid for my babies because they are invaluable (priceless) to me. Mine were expensive as well, but I was very specific in what I wanted for specific reasons, and so I was willing to pay for it. It does cost more for a breeder to whelp a tiny because they do need extra attention, they need to be kept longer and they require 24/7 supervision in the first months of life. I am willing to compensate the right breeder for that.

I hope that most breeders don't breed a female under 5 pounds and that they breed to smaller males to help ensure safe and natural deliveries. I would always recommend asking the breeder the size of the mother and hopefully even see her in person to be safe. I also recommend talking to the breeder's vet. You can find out a lot with the right questions.

People do have very strong opinions in this area and you probably won't change anyone's mind, but if you are confident in the decisions and choices you made there is no need to be concerned with these complaints about "teacups, tinies, or extra small" yorkies. I have three and they are all healthy and happy do far. They have the typical health issues of ever other breed specimen and I love them all so much. I cannot imagine my life without them.

kp&nala · 04-26-2005, 01:25 PM

these are only my opinions and i hope i don't make anyone mad.....i'm against "some" people breeding "small" females (under 3lbs) just for tiny pups b/c of the risk it imposes on the mother and/or the pups once born. i don't like "some" people that advertise puppies as rare or micro or t-cup just so they can jack the price up. i understand that in some places what might be way too expensive for me is the average there. i think the reason i think this is b/c before joining YT i had no idea there was no such thing as a t-cup yorkie and i could have easily been pulled in and paid way more than i should have, in my area yorkies are anywhere from $400-$850. also people not knowing that "really tiny" yorkies need very close supervision and care. if i would have gotten a 'really tiny" yorkie and it started to crash i would not know what was going on or that they need to eat and drink very often and be given kayro or nutrical just incase.
*the reason is use some in "" is b/c i was by no means trying to implie that all breeders are wrong and not all breeders do this.

Chelsey · 04-26-2005, 01:32 PM

Dont feel bad and dont take it to heart when u see threads on tiny's... its never meant personally to any of the members, we are here to help each other and answer questions the best we can, but we are anti people that are trying to change this beautiful breed by "purposly breeding tiny"s" and selling them at rediculous prices and a lot of them turn out to have health issues... its cruel to the breed and thats basically all we are trying to prevent people from sponsering those kind of people that advertise "Tcups" which dont exist...
We dont care what anyone payed for their yorkie or what size it is, we love them for what they are and we respect this breed full heartedly! big or small

SoCalyorkiLvr · 04-26-2005, 01:44 PM

I have been extremely lucky in all of the breeders I have come across because none of them would sell a tiny to anyone who was not capable of caring for it 24/7 and they all send "emergency kits" with the owners after 2 hours of instruction on how to properly care for these special babies. They give syringes, nutrical, baby food, Karo syrup with written instructions in case of a low blood sugar attack, coccidia or other problem. I have always had to fill out an extensive questionnaire and prove to the breeder that my lifestyle was condusive to the needs of the tiny yorkie. If they didn't do this, the puppies would die and they would lose money replacing expensive puppies all the time. They are also responsive by email and telephone whenever I have a question or concern.

I am not offended by the term teacup, tiny, or purse baby because the breeders I know simply use those terms as guidelines to explain the estimated size of the dog at adulthood. Most consider a teacup or tiny to be under 4 lbs at adulthood. Sure, they get more money for the smaller ones but I do not find that offensive. It's a business and it costs more to whelp and raise a tiny to 12 weeks and they are fairly rare, hence the price. While AKC doesn't recognize these size differences, that is irrelevant to me because they really only care about show dogs and I only have pets. I know the breed standard, but the littler yorkies suit my lifestyle better. I travel a lot and use my dogs as service animals so I need small dogs who travel easily.

schatzie · 04-26-2005, 01:48 PM

Your little one is precious and you've been blessed with a healthy Yorkie too.

Great info has been given above towards the tiny ones. As said, many times things said are negative as some breeders find they can advertise their tiny ones as "rare" so obtain more money.

Other's might not see the special extra care in caring for a tiny - only seeing a cute purse baby, etc. Not realizing what all is involved.

I myself will be obtaining a tiny soon, I think they are adorable. However I feel I am educated enough to give the care etc that they at times need and I too am willing to pay probably a higher price. (sometimes one must pay a higher cost for getting exactly what they want, goes for all things)

I also have Schatzie, she is my biggy Yorkie (8 pounds)

So happy to hear you love your tiny fur baby as you do, she's a blessed fur baby to be under your wing.

So I love all Yorkies, tiny or big!!!!

Sebastian's Mom · 04-26-2005, 01:54 PM

When I got Sebastian I was looking for a bigger Yorkie 5-7 lbs. but he was the only one that would sit with me after observing the litter for almost three hours. My breeder was so nice we ended up leaving her house at almost 11:30 at night! Anyways he was the runt and hasn't had any problems yet. Alot of people have said that it is better to pick the runt than to look for a breeder who breeds for tiny Yorkies. I only paid $850.00 for him and like all of you said he is priceless to us! (especially since he was my 9th wedding anniversary present from my hubby)

Chichi · 04-26-2005, 02:12 PM

Thanks for all your responses its just that I love my Violeta so much and I think she is so perfect ( she wont probably get to 4 pounds) and luckily for both of us she is in good health now.. I give her all the attention she requires, the vitamins, the honey etc, It's Just like having a human baby you just have to know when you have them the resposability that it is.... JUST LIKE THAT. And I do understand the dangers that this irresponsable breeders put on the puppies.
But with the right common sense I think that all of us that really care about the pets wont choose the wrong breeders.

Chichi · 04-26-2005, 02:41 PM

Thats exactly what the breeder of Violeta did to us.. we spend first one day for her to meet us and for us to meet the puppy, then the whole questionaire thing, then she told us to review everything and really think if we were up to the responsability of taking care of this kind of puppy and then when we went back for her approval (if we were suited for her) and after paying and all she made us buy a whole lot of things Violeta needed for her daily care plus she gave us the written instruccions and she made us go to the vet that she goes to.... All this in Paris. We live in Venezuela.

chachi · 04-26-2005, 03:11 PM

Just enjoy your little baby. I have a little one too and shes my little sunshine. The only problem I've encountered is she thinks shes much bigger than what she is. I think thats a trait of all yorkies regardless of their size.

She-ra's Mama · 04-26-2005, 03:20 PM

She-ra is 4 1/2 lbs, in between I guess, she wasn't expensive, but if you fall for a dog, you can't help it. Whether it's $100.00 or $1,000.00!!!

04-26-2005, 12:59 PM	#1
Chichi Senior Yorkie Talker Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Venezuela Posts: 87	Tiny Yorkies I'm wondering.... I've been reading lots and lots of threads and the opinions of lots of yorkie owners on tiny yorkies. Why is it that a lot of you think that Yorkies are not supposed to be so small or so expensive. When I started looking for a pet I didnt know I wanted a Yorkie, I always liked the bigger dogs in fact I used to have large dogs... It turns out that when I saw a tiny yorkie I realized I wanted one just like it and luckily I found her, and she is just the way I wanted her to be, she is not only tiny but she was very expensive but she is also the best dog I have ever had... She loves to play, she is always by my side giving me what I wanted a pet to give me, she sleeps between my husband and I, the first thing I do when I wake up is make her braekfast, I even wake up in the middle of the night to put her in her dipper, I adore her. I love her so much I dont want to be without her ever. So I feel a little weird everytime I read discomfort about an expensive and tiny pup, Please dont take it in a bad way I just want to know why, everyone here is in love with their pets so those things shouldnt matter right??? __________________ ALEXANDRA http://www.dogster.com/?142158 http://www.homepage.mac.com/alexghersy

04-26-2005, 01:05 PM	#2
nemom Donating YT 500 Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Connecticut Posts: 783	Don't feel bad, Bella was expensive too but I don't care, she is perfect for us. It sounds like yours is perfect for you so who cares how tiny she is or how much you paid!! __________________ Tammy & Bella

04-26-2005, 01:07 PM	#3
chachi I Love My Yorkies Donating Member Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Indianapolis, Indiana Posts: 37,147	I think alot of people just try to educate people on the health risks associated with tiny yorkies. Also about breeding of tinys to produce other tinys. Which can have health problems passed on to them. __________________ Chachi's & Jewels Mom Jewels http://www.dogster.com/?132431 Chachi http://www.dogster.com/?132427

04-26-2005, 01:14 PM	#4
lily's mom Lily Loves Maximus Donating Member Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Missouri Posts: 2,633	I don't think any one is anti-small. If they turn out bigger or smaller, no biggie, we love them anyway. But to go seeking a 1 or 2 pound dog, well that's another story... There are so many risks with them and people who have know idea what they are getting into desperately seek the tinies. Some breeders irresponsibly produce these little bitty things IMO just for the $$$$$$$. __________________ Lily and Dawn

04-26-2005, 01:32 PM	#8
Chelsey My2Pearls Chelsey & Chanel YT Donator Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: N Posts: 4,097	Dont feel bad and dont take it to heart when u see threads on tiny's... its never meant personally to any of the members, we are here to help each other and answer questions the best we can, but we are anti people that are trying to change this beautiful breed by "purposly breeding tiny"s" and selling them at rediculous prices and a lot of them turn out to have health issues... its cruel to the breed and thats basically all we are trying to prevent people from sponsering those kind of people that advertise "Tcups" which dont exist... We dont care what anyone payed for their yorkie or what size it is, we love them for what they are and we respect this breed full heartedly! big or small __________________ Proud member of the crazy club

04-26-2005, 01:23 PM	#6
SoCalyorkiLvr BANNED! Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 8,246	Hi ChiChi! I have yorkies under 4 lbs too and I wouldn't worry about the negativity with regard to tinies. There seems to be a misconception that people may want them for the wrong reasons ( status symbol, fashion accessory), that they are all more fragile and unhealthy than "normal" sized yorkies, or, most importantly, that breeders may be risking the lives and healths of smaller females to breed them to procuce smaller pups because the demand is there. I agree with you and would have paid twice what I paid for my babies because they are invaluable (priceless) to me. Mine were expensive as well, but I was very specific in what I wanted for specific reasons, and so I was willing to pay for it. It does cost more for a breeder to whelp a tiny because they do need extra attention, they need to be kept longer and they require 24/7 supervision in the first months of life. I am willing to compensate the right breeder for that. I hope that most breeders don't breed a female under 5 pounds and that they breed to smaller males to help ensure safe and natural deliveries. I would always recommend asking the breeder the size of the mother and hopefully even see her in person to be safe. I also recommend talking to the breeder's vet. You can find out a lot with the right questions. People do have very strong opinions in this area and you probably won't change anyone's mind, but if you are confident in the decisions and choices you made there is no need to be concerned with these complaints about "teacups, tinies, or extra small" yorkies. I have three and they are all healthy and happy do far. They have the typical health issues of ever other breed specimen and I love them all so much. I cannot imagine my life without them.

04-26-2005, 01:25 PM	#7
kp&nala Donating YT 500 Club Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Arkansas Posts: 972	these are only my opinions and i hope i don't make anyone mad.....i'm against "some" people breeding "small" females (under 3lbs) just for tiny pups b/c of the risk it imposes on the mother and/or the pups once born. i don't like "some" people that advertise puppies as rare or micro or t-cup just so they can jack the price up. i understand that in some places what might be way too expensive for me is the average there. i think the reason i think this is b/c before joining YT i had no idea there was no such thing as a t-cup yorkie and i could have easily been pulled in and paid way more than i should have, in my area yorkies are anywhere from $400-$850. also people not knowing that "really tiny" yorkies need very close supervision and care. if i would have gotten a 'really tiny" yorkie and it started to crash i would not know what was going on or that they need to eat and drink very often and be given kayro or nutrical just incase. *the reason is use some in "" is b/c i was by no means trying to implie that all breeders are wrong and not all breeders do this.

04-26-2005, 01:44 PM	#9
SoCalyorkiLvr BANNED! Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 8,246	I have been extremely lucky in all of the breeders I have come across because none of them would sell a tiny to anyone who was not capable of caring for it 24/7 and they all send "emergency kits" with the owners after 2 hours of instruction on how to properly care for these special babies. They give syringes, nutrical, baby food, Karo syrup with written instructions in case of a low blood sugar attack, coccidia or other problem. I have always had to fill out an extensive questionnaire and prove to the breeder that my lifestyle was condusive to the needs of the tiny yorkie. If they didn't do this, the puppies would die and they would lose money replacing expensive puppies all the time. They are also responsive by email and telephone whenever I have a question or concern. I am not offended by the term teacup, tiny, or purse baby because the breeders I know simply use those terms as guidelines to explain the estimated size of the dog at adulthood. Most consider a teacup or tiny to be under 4 lbs at adulthood. Sure, they get more money for the smaller ones but I do not find that offensive. It's a business and it costs more to whelp and raise a tiny to 12 weeks and they are fairly rare, hence the price. While AKC doesn't recognize these size differences, that is irrelevant to me because they really only care about show dogs and I only have pets. I know the breed standard, but the littler yorkies suit my lifestyle better. I travel a lot and use my dogs as service animals so I need small dogs who travel easily. Last edited by SoCalyorkiLvr; 04-26-2005 at 01:47 PM.

04-26-2005, 01:48 PM	#10
schatzie *Moderator Emeritus* Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Tontitown Arkansas Posts: 4,909	Your little one is precious and you've been blessed with a healthy Yorkie too. Great info has been given above towards the tiny ones. As said, many times things said are negative as some breeders find they can advertise their tiny ones as "rare" so obtain more money. Other's might not see the special extra care in caring for a tiny - only seeing a cute purse baby, etc. Not realizing what all is involved. I myself will be obtaining a tiny soon, I think they are adorable. However I feel I am educated enough to give the care etc that they at times need and I too am willing to pay probably a higher price. (sometimes one must pay a higher cost for getting exactly what they want, goes for all things) I also have Schatzie, she is my biggy Yorkie (8 pounds) So happy to hear you love your tiny fur baby as you do, she's a blessed fur baby to be under your wing. So I love all Yorkies, tiny or big!!!! __________________ ~~~~ Schatzie and Ransom ~~~~

04-26-2005, 01:54 PM	#11
Sebastian's Mom YT Addict Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Fort Walton Beach, Florida Posts: 319	When I got Sebastian I was looking for a bigger Yorkie 5-7 lbs. but he was the only one that would sit with me after observing the litter for almost three hours. My breeder was so nice we ended up leaving her house at almost 11:30 at night! Anyways he was the runt and hasn't had any problems yet. Alot of people have said that it is better to pick the runt than to look for a breeder who breeds for tiny Yorkies. I only paid $850.00 for him and like all of you said he is priceless to us! (especially since he was my 9th wedding anniversary present from my hubby)

04-26-2005, 02:12 PM	#12
Chichi Senior Yorkie Talker Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Venezuela Posts: 87	Thanks for all your responses its just that I love my Violeta so much and I think she is so perfect ( she wont probably get to 4 pounds) and luckily for both of us she is in good health now.. I give her all the attention she requires, the vitamins, the honey etc, It's Just like having a human baby you just have to know when you have them the resposability that it is.... JUST LIKE THAT. And I do understand the dangers that this irresponsable breeders put on the puppies. But with the right common sense I think that all of us that really care about the pets wont choose the wrong breeders. __________________ ALEXANDRA http://www.dogster.com/?142158 http://www.homepage.mac.com/alexghersy

04-26-2005, 02:41 PM	#13
Chichi Senior Yorkie Talker Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Venezuela Posts: 87	Thats exactly what the breeder of Violeta did to us.. we spend first one day for her to meet us and for us to meet the puppy, then the whole questionaire thing, then she told us to review everything and really think if we were up to the responsability of taking care of this kind of puppy and then when we went back for her approval (if we were suited for her) and after paying and all she made us buy a whole lot of things Violeta needed for her daily care plus she gave us the written instruccions and she made us go to the vet that she goes to.... All this in Paris. We live in Venezuela. __________________ ALEXANDRA http://www.dogster.com/?142158 http://www.homepage.mac.com/alexghersy

04-26-2005, 03:11 PM	#14
chachi I Love My Yorkies Donating Member Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Indianapolis, Indiana Posts: 37,147	Just enjoy your little baby. I have a little one too and shes my little sunshine. The only problem I've encountered is she thinks shes much bigger than what she is. I think thats a trait of all yorkies regardless of their size. __________________ Chachi's & Jewels Mom Jewels http://www.dogster.com/?132431 Chachi http://www.dogster.com/?132427

04-26-2005, 03:20 PM	#15
She-ra's Mama Got Yorkies? Donating Member Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: S.E. Mo Posts: 1,602	She-ra is 4 1/2 lbs, in between I guess, she wasn't expensive, but if you fall for a dog, you can't help it. Whether it's $100.00 or $1,000.00!!! __________________ She-Ra Marie ~ 9-22-02 to 2-22-06 Dixie Belle ~ 10-12-2006 to 12-13-2008 You girls left us way to soon. I miss you both.