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Pautau422 08-17-2006 08:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Lacy's Mom
Puppy mills sometimes use a nice, clean home because you can't visit where the puppies are really born or see what the parents really look like or you wouldn't buy them. Of course, papers aren't necessary, but puppy mills less often have AKC registrations.

My estimate on weight - at 3 pounds at 10 weeks, (and usually it's more than they tell you for some reason) is most likely going to be over the standard of 7 pounds, probably more like 8 or 9.

I, personally, see red flags, but only you know what you're looking for and the price might be in line with the quality and size. I might go and look, but I also feel that I have enough experience to judge the quality (coat, overbite, underbite, knees, testicles, nose lengths, body proportions, ears, size, etc.). If you have know idea really what to look for, you might not end up getting what you want.
I am going to try (hopefully I can get done) to send a video and pic of the puppy. What would be the red flags you see?

SJK1113 08-17-2006 08:35 PM
I agree with Lacy's Mom. The red flags I see are that there are no AKC papers and the parents are not on site, especially the mom. She says she can email pics, but unfortunately, you won't know for sure if the ones she sends you are actually the parents. If she's selling it without papers at a lower price, then I wouldn't think as much about it, but why does she say she doesn't have papers? I definitely would take him to the vet and see how that goes.

Lacy's Mom 08-17-2006 08:35 PM
Red flags:

1 - Not having at least the Mom on the premises.
2 - The puppy not being with the owner of the Mom.
3 - The puppy being over the Yorkie standard in weight.
4 - no registration papers (little flag)

3 major red flags and I haven't even heard the price or seen a picture, too many in my book. Don't get in a hurry - you will have your baby for many years, make sure you get what you want in size, quality and health.

Pautau422 08-17-2006 08:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Lacy's Mom
Red flags:

1 - Not having at least the Mom on the premises.
2 - The puppy not being with the owner of the Mom.
3 - The puppy being over the Yorkie standard in weight.
4 - no registration papers (little flag)

3 major red flags and I haven't even heard the price or seen a picture, too many in my book. Don't get in a hurry - you will have your baby for many years, make sure you get what you want in size, quality and health.
is there a way of searching to see if she has complaints against her?

meeshue 08-17-2006 08:52 PM
Check here and see if her name comes up. It is an akc suspension list. Good Luck!


http://www.barkbytes.com/suspend/suspindx.htm#a

Pautau422 08-17-2006 08:57 PM
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Originally Posted by meeshue
Check here and see if her name comes up. It is an akc suspension list. Good Luck!


http://www.barkbytes.com/suspend/suspindx.htm#a
Thank you, I will look right now.

Pautau422 08-17-2006 08:59 PM
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Originally Posted by meeshue
Check here and see if her name comes up. It is an akc suspension list. Good Luck!


http://www.barkbytes.com/suspend/suspindx.htm#a
I just looked and her name is not in it.

meeshue 08-17-2006 09:05 PM
Then that might be a good sign. Do what your heart tells you. If you feel comfortable with this woman and the pup is right for you, then go for it. I on the other hand wanted a yorkie so bad that I did not do my homework and even though I have ckc paper stating that mine is purebred. I have doubts. I am not saying that the pup isn't purbred I am just using that as a reference. I wish I found yt before I paid top dollar for my pup. If I knew what to look for I probably would not of gotten her and that would have been a big mistake, she is the best dog ever. Just go with your feelings and hope that when you take him to the vet that he is healthy. All the luck to you. Keep us posted

Pautau422 08-17-2006 09:20 PM
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Originally Posted by meeshue
Then that might be a good sign. Do what your heart tells you. If you feel comfortable with this woman and the pup is right for you, then go for it. I on the other hand wanted a yorkie so bad that I did not do my homework and even though I have ckc paper stating that mine is purebred. I have doubts. I am not saying that the pup isn't purbred I am just using that as a reference. I wish I found yt before I paid top dollar for my pup. If I knew what to look for I probably would not of gotten her and that would have been a big mistake, she is the best dog ever. Just go with your feelings and hope that when you take him to the vet that he is healthy. All the luck to you. Keep us posted
Honestly, that is what I am doing and have been doing research for about 4 months looking at breeds and seeing what will be good for us. We were just about to get a yorkie before this one and I really was not feeling it. I got all nervous and uneasy about it, that I told my husband and he was feeling the same way that we went back and asked for our money back. Thank God we were able to get it back. I am not thinking or considering breeding or having my dog for show, but I will ask her for it and I will be honest I really did not ask her for it so for all I know she probably has it.
All I can do right now is pray and hope the vet gives me thumbs up. I will keep you posted

rhatfield2172 08-18-2006 02:24 AM
If you are concerned just make sure you get a health guarantee and take him to the vet. I bought a put about a month ago took her to the vet and she had a heart murmur my vet advised me to return her so I did. Actually got another pup from the same breeder but before going to pick her up the breeder called me back asking me if I wanting the first pup I had returned because she wasn't going to try and sell her she just wanted her to have a good home so that's how I ended up with two new baby's.

blondflava 08-18-2006 03:41 AM
I agree that tere are some red flags about this breeder. And I woul definitely take the puppy to the vet. Also, is she offering a starter pack? Most good breeders do, it's usually food kit, all the necessary papers, with the bith paper as well and vaccinations record. Also, a favorite toy or a blankie, just to ease the transition to forever home. And as to the puppy being mellow, mine used to be as well. There were 2 other crazy ones, they would hardly stay on my lap. And the girl wasn't responding to me and my husband the way curious puppies do. The third boy was a little curious, and a little playful. Also, stayed on my lap a little longer. And I fell in love... Now (sigh), after not even 3 weeks, he wakes up before 7 and doesn't really stop running and getting into trouble till evening... :) . I'm having kinda hard time to get him to stay still for his daily grooming. :D Good luck and give us update!

Pautau422 08-18-2006 05:57 AM
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Originally Posted by blondflava
I agree that tere are some red flags about this breeder. And I woul definitely take the puppy to the vet. Also, is she offering a starter pack? Most good breeders do, it's usually food kit, all the necessary papers, with the bith paper as well and vaccinations record. Also, a favorite toy or a blankie, just to ease the transition to forever home. And as to the puppy being mellow, mine used to be as well. There were 2 other crazy ones, they would hardly stay on my lap. And the girl wasn't responding to me and my husband the way curious puppies do. The third boy was a little curious, and a little playful. Also, stayed on my lap a little longer. And I fell in love... Now (sigh), after not even 3 weeks, he wakes up before 7 and doesn't really stop running and getting into trouble till evening... :) . I'm having kinda hard time to get him to stay still for his daily grooming. :D Good luck and give us update!
Honestly that is my hubby's concern that fact that he is not crazy and I am totally the opposite I am Great a calm dog. Crazy hubby and Crazy dog no good for me. But I will be on the lookout and take him to the vet and see what he tells me. I have been searching her around the net too see what I found about her and so far nothing. Compared to the other places I have searched and found bad things.
I will keep you all posted.

Lacy's Mom 08-18-2006 09:40 AM
You can also check the A list and the B list of USDA breeders which simply means they breed on a large scale.

http://www.aphis.usda.gov/ac/publica...rt_holders.txt
http://www.aphis.usda.gov/ac/publica...rt_holders.txt

Pautau422 08-18-2006 01:22 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Lacy's Mom
You can also check the A list and the B list of USDA breeders which simply means they breed on a large scale.

http://www.aphis.usda.gov/ac/publica...rt_holders.txt
http://www.aphis.usda.gov/ac/publica...rt_holders.txt
Hello,
I do not know her dad's address which I could ask, but her address does not appear on the list.
Thank you for the list, I was looking for that and I could not find it. I also did a vet appointment for next week, hopefull he is good.

newmommy 08-21-2006 11:54 AM
so any news??? you still gettin the pup??


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