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DJ30 06-28-2006 07:13 PM

I feed her Nutro Max Mini Chunk. We got a big bag of kibble from the breeders so I don't have feeding directions on the bag; however, the website only has guidelines for 5-15 lb. dogs for the smallest weight range. It suggests 2/3 to 1 1/3 cups per day.

http://www.nutroproducts.com/maxdogminichunk.asp#

Lacy's Mom 06-28-2006 07:13 PM

I'm not really understanding about the rice. Do you give her 1/2 of a cup of rice and kibble combined in three meals? If she is just eating rice, I would be worried about that. I would recommend feeding her 1/2 of a cup of just kibble daily and giving the rice as a treat. If she is consuming just rice maybe it's not meeting her nutritional needs and that is why she seems hungry.

I really have no way of knowing how much dry mine consume, but they do get all they want and none of them are overweight.

DJ30 06-28-2006 07:31 PM

I gave her a tablespoon of rice with her kibble tonight as per the breeder's suggestion to help flush out her system since she has soft/watery stool (you can read my thread "Angel's Stool"), and she only ate the rice.

There's another thread I started regarding Angel's eating habits, which you can view below. FYI, I took out the deli meat because it would take forever for her to finish the roll and it would be wasted. The breeders cut some of their roll for me to take home to feed Angel. I also stopped the soft food mixed in with her kibble because I want her stool to firm up.

http://www.yorkietalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=44307

lolabella 06-29-2006 03:31 AM

Mia has been spitting up a foamy substance ever since we got her. Sometimes it happened twice a day, sometimes once, and lately its going away. The interesting thing is that we used to free feed her, and stopped recently. So I doubt it is about food intake.
I asked the vet several times and they did numerous tests since we got Mia, but they don't know what it is, or what the cause is. The breeder was having this problem (with Mia and her sister) before we got Mia, and she had told us. She asked her vet and her vet didn't know what it was either. Both vets said not to worry about it, and to wait and see how things go. If it gets worse, and she is lethargic, not eating, etc. then its something to worry about. If she is eating and playful, the vets said its fine for now and not to worry.
I hope this helps.

DJ30 06-29-2006 07:04 AM

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Originally Posted by lolabella
Mia has been spitting up a foamy substance ever since we got her. Sometimes it happened twice a day, sometimes once, and lately its going away. The interesting thing is that we used to free feed her, and stopped recently. So I doubt it is about food intake.
I asked the vet several times and they did numerous tests since we got Mia, but they don't know what it is, or what the cause is. The breeder was having this problem (with Mia and her sister) before we got Mia, and she had told us. She asked her vet and her vet didn't know what it was either. Both vets said not to worry about it, and to wait and see how things go. If it gets worse, and she is lethargic, not eating, etc. then its something to worry about. If she is eating and playful, the vets said its fine for now and not to worry.
I hope this helps.

Thanks for sharing your situation. How old is Mia, how much does she weigh and how many times a day do you feed her and how much? Sorry about all the questions. haha I left the kibble for Angel overnight, and I didn't see her eat any of it before I went to bed. When I went into her room this morning, she was already eating. I think I'm going to do this from now on.

lolabella 06-30-2006 02:58 AM

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Originally Posted by DJ30
Thanks for sharing your situation. How old is Mia, how much does she weigh and how many times a day do you feed her and how much? Sorry about all the questions. haha I left the kibble for Angel overnight, and I didn't see her eat any of it before I went to bed. When I went into her room this morning, she was already eating. I think I'm going to do this from now on.

Mia will be 12 weeks on monday, and she is 3.5 lbs. I feed her 1/2 a cup of Merrick Puppy Plate a day. She gets food 4 times during the day. She eats a little when she gets up, which is around 5 or 6. Then we feed her after we eat brunch (hubby likes to sleep in). She eats again early in the afternoon, and then she gets food after we eat our dinner. We stopped free feeding her because we try to feed her after we eat. Apparently that establishes the "pecking order" of the community according to some training-lady. Mia was starting get a bit too bossy. We are also trying to teach her to sit, stay and whatnot, so she eats a good amount of mini Zukes treats. She is our chubby li'l gal. :)

DJ30 07-01-2006 07:05 AM

When my mom woke up around 7 a.m. today, she saw Angel gagging again. I left her bowl of kibble for her overnight, so she had access to food. My mom called me to wake up, and when I went into her room, I saw her doing it. I noticed a yellow stain on her blanket this time. She cycled between stopping for a short while and then doing it again a few times. I never saw her spit up anything. She just swallowed after she finished gagging.

DJ30 07-01-2006 07:25 AM

What kind of tests did the vet do on Mia?

Lacy's Mom 07-01-2006 09:17 AM

I found this on the web and still believe it is probably stomach acid, but since you are also having troubles with stools I think I would take him into the vet and maybe he could prescribe pepcid or do further tests if he thinks it might be something else.

Q: Raz, our shih tzu, throws up in the morning unless we get food into him right after he awakens. Sometimes, he doesn’t eat early, except for the grass he eats outside, then throws up. It takes several hours for him to settle down and get hungry after vomiting. His previous owner said the vet called this problem acid reflux, and that we shouldn’t worry. What do you think?

— C. R., Delray Beach, Fla.

A: Wait until after breakfast before reading this answer. If Raz is throwing up yellow bile, he likely has a common condition called reflux gastritis. The bile builds up in the stomach, causing a mild gastritis. This is one circumstance where dogs that eat grass may do so to relieve nausea and/or stimulate regurgitation. (In other cases, dogs probably graze on grass, particularly new growth, simply because it tastes good.)

Dr. Colin Burrows, a diplomat of the American College of Veterinary Internal Medicine, specializing in gastroenterology, says feeding Raz a healthy bedtime snack and breakfast first thing in the morning should keep his tummy more filled, which would help.

If changing Raz’s feeding schedule prevents vomiting, great. If not, see your vet. Depending on the outcome of tests, the next course of action may be medication (inexpensive and available at any pharmacy). However, Burrows, a professor at the University of Florida College of Veterinary Medicine, Gainesville, is concerned that Raz needs time to settle down after vomiting.

Most typically, a dog with reflux bile simply pukes, then bounces back in no time like nothing happened.

DJ30 07-01-2006 10:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lacy's Mom
I found this on the web and still believe it is probably stomach acid, but since you are also having troubles with stools I think I would take him into the vet and maybe he could prescribe pepcid or do further tests if he thinks it might be something else.

Q: Raz, our shih tzu, throws up in the morning unless we get food into him right after he awakens. Sometimes, he doesn’t eat early, except for the grass he eats outside, then throws up. It takes several hours for him to settle down and get hungry after vomiting. His previous owner said the vet called this problem acid reflux, and that we shouldn’t worry. What do you think?

— C. R., Delray Beach, Fla.

A: Wait until after breakfast before reading this answer. If Raz is throwing up yellow bile, he likely has a common condition called reflux gastritis. The bile builds up in the stomach, causing a mild gastritis. This is one circumstance where dogs that eat grass may do so to relieve nausea and/or stimulate regurgitation. (In other cases, dogs probably graze on grass, particularly new growth, simply because it tastes good.)

Dr. Colin Burrows, a diplomat of the American College of Veterinary Internal Medicine, specializing in gastroenterology, says feeding Raz a healthy bedtime snack and breakfast first thing in the morning should keep his tummy more filled, which would help.

If changing Raz’s feeding schedule prevents vomiting, great. If not, see your vet. Depending on the outcome of tests, the next course of action may be medication (inexpensive and available at any pharmacy). However, Burrows, a professor at the University of Florida College of Veterinary Medicine, Gainesville, is concerned that Raz needs time to settle down after vomiting.

Most typically, a dog with reflux bile simply pukes, then bounces back in no time like nothing happened.

Thanks for the information and your PM. I appreciate it. She did eat this morning sometime after she stopped gagging. I don't give her rice until a few hours after her kibble so she will hopefully eat the kibble. Maybe I'll try a bedtime snack.

lolabella 07-01-2006 07:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DJ30
What kind of tests did the vet do on Mia?

She had 3 fecal exams, and blood work done. We were thinking of getting her a bile test (?) to check for liver shunt, but we are waiting on that for now. But, the bile test was because her red blood cell count came back low. I was hoping they would figure out what is up with the foamy (Mia's is always clear) vomit during one of our frequent visits to the vet, seeing that they are pretty familiar with Mia by now, but nope. Hopefully it will go away on its own.

DJ30 07-04-2006 02:32 PM

TCC and I took Angel to the vet's today to have her ears checked for ear mites or an ear infection, which you can read about here: http://www.yorkietalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=45156. We asked about her gagging, and the vet said it's nothing to worry about if she doesn't do it often. She said that she doesn't think it's acid reflux and that she could be clearing her throat of something.

momofreese 07-12-2006 10:50 AM

vomiting bile and a foamy consistency
 
Thank you so much... That was the exact thread I was looking for. I am running out to the vet now and will ask her about those posts. I am pretty sure that is what Reese has but I will let you know for sure.

I hope your baby is doing well now. Thanks again for your help.

DJ30 07-12-2006 11:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by momofreese
Thank you so much... That was the exact thread I was looking for. I am running out to the vet now and will ask her about those posts. I am pretty sure that is what Reese has but I will let you know for sure.

I hope your baby is doing well now. Thanks again for your help.

You're welcome. I know I mentioned this to you in your post, but this is for everyone else. The last time Angel vomited yellow bile was on Sun. morning. I was in the kitchen, and I heard what I thought was gagging. When I went into her room, I saw two stains of yellow bile on her blanket. One was a fairly large stain. I took her bed and blanket away, and then I saw her vomit on the tarp. As soon as that happened, I heated up some rice and put it in her kibble. She only ate the rice, so I added Nutro soft dog food (canned) to the kibble and she ate everything. I haven't seen any stains or seen her vomit since. I've been adding the soft food to her kibble for breakfast and dinner but not lunch. On Mon. she ate some of her lunch, but she didn't eat it yesterday or today. I started giving her soft food this week because I wanted to make sure she'd take her heartworm pill (Sentinel) today. Once the soft food is finished by the weekend, I'm going to try going back to feeding her rice a few hours after I leave her kibble out.

momofreese 07-12-2006 01:17 PM

vomiting bile and foamy white substances
 
Hi again:

I just got back from my vet. She thankfully said that Reeses legs and hips seemed fine. She did not feel it was necessary to xray her. Surprisingly enough she also said that her teeth were great, especially for a four year old yorkie. Reese never had her teeth cleaned and I thought she was going to be in for that too. I must admit I am lax when it comes to brushing but have now decided that she will have them brushed once or twice daily.

She had only gained a little over a pound over the past few months.. we had thought it was far more. She is now 9.7 whereas a few months ago we had gotten her down to 8.4. We will be exercising her more, or trying to and changing her food for the hundreth time.

My vet is not happy with wellness. She feels that they add too many vegetables to market the food as a highly natural product and that the dogs are not getting enough of all other things they need. I was told that is not the case, but so far in all of the years, my vet has not steered us wrong. She again wanted to put her on their RD hills I believe or another product that is the same as store bought IAMS. The nurse out front told me to put her on IAMs weight reduction and that she should lose weight from it. She said her dog loves it and lost a lot of weight. I had thought that IAMs was a horrible product but wondered what others thought about it. I am going to refer back to old posts.

As far as the vomiting my vet told me to try pepcid, just as many had said on YT. I feel that in most cases the people on this forum give better advice than most vets. I have found so many to be right on target with many diagnosis on the board. I am supposed to give her 1/2 a tablet which is 5 mg at bedtime. My vet was pretty sure that this would stop the vomiting. I sure hope so. Other than that I was pleasantly surprised to find that my bill was ONLY $130 for the visit. Reese was due for one shot and heartworm test. For my vet it was a very cheap visit.

I will keep you posted on the results from pepcid and hopefully I will also be able to report that reese is losing weight, as I should do too.

Anyone with information on IAMs weight control I would appreciate a reply back. I hope I am wrong but I seem to remember IAMs being written up for many negative things.

Thanks so much for your hope and best to your babies too.


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