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chachi 06-28-2006 03:57 AM

Oh Denise you know what is best to do for Parker and your family and I know you will do it. I am thrilled to hear he may go to another YT member that is great news. Best of luck with whatever you decide to do.

Yorkie3 06-28-2006 04:09 AM

Denise, I am sooo sorry you've had to go through this at all. It has got to be the most heartbreaking decision, but I'm happy that you've made one. :thumbup: Remember I told you I had to do the same thing at one time. :( You can now get back to your happy family and that adorable little Maddie. Hugs to you and yours.

Cheska's Bella 06-28-2006 04:51 AM

I'm sooo sorry you're going through this! Bella is the same age as Parker (a few days older) and she still has accidents and this INFURIATES the SO.

She did really, really good for awhile, I could almost say she was 100% housetrained, but then I went back to work full time, and now she's probably 70-30. She's recently taken to pooing under my bed (WTH?!?) and no matter how many times I clean, and spray (w/a good enzymatic cleaner) she still goes under there! I'm unable to block off under the bed so I don't even know what to do. It's frustrating because like I said, she was doing soooooooo well and now this... I read the suggestions, going back to square one, etc... but that's easier said then done. :(

Again... I'm sorry you're going through this.

Mitzis Mom 06-28-2006 05:13 AM

I think you made the right decision. Sometimes it just doesn't work out. Parker will be fine and so will you. :thumbup:

GeorgiesMomma 06-28-2006 05:33 AM

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Originally Posted by DENISE517
I think if some of you could have seen my carpets you would be horrified as we both were. They are only 2 months old. He just said he cant let a dog ruin our home like this... NO matter how much we love and adore him. We have a 2 yr old daughter who plays on these floor everyday and it is gross. We have cleaned and cleaned like crazy!!!!! SOMETIMES YOU HAVE TO REALIZE DOGS CAN BE BAD....ITS NOT ALWAY THE HUMAN:mad:


Never said it was you or your husband that was being bad I believe I said that I thought he was being unrealistic in his expectations. And regardless of what you post I still believe that he is being unrealistic. I talked to my fiance' about it and he agrees that Parker probably needs more time to be housetrained. We are only giving you our opinions and suggestions. Just read your last post I think it's best to rehome Parker as well.

gypsyqueen 06-28-2006 07:35 AM

Look Swettie
Dont feel guilty, what other people say dont matter you know whats best for you and your family and parker. however this happens to alot of dogs it lasts about 3 to 6 months I will take him if you'd like I have a sharpei .and a chi and a yorkie and a maltese all spayed parker would be to. good luck whatever you decide.

Drindahl 06-28-2006 07:45 AM

Diapers work good - just like a baby - the breeder I purchased my male from does that she has 5 yorkies and he is the only male... I have three yorkies with the male being one of them and I really think its just an issue (with mine) that he is marking his territory because of the females... diaper them up! But they do take along time to train - if its raining outside - you can forget about them going outside - and think about it - do any of us want to go out when its raining! When you gotta go you gotta go.

vainchick5 06-28-2006 07:53 AM

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Originally Posted by GeorgiesMomma
Never said it was you or your husband that was being bad I believe I said that I thought he was being unrealistic in his expectations. And regardless of what you post I still believe that he is being unrealistic. I talked to my fiance' about it and he agrees that Parker probably needs more time to be housetrained. We are only giving you our opinions and suggestions. Just read your last post I think it's best to rehome Parker as well.

I totally agree with you. It's ok to expect a pup to be completely housetrained within a day of being born but some people have their kids in diapers and using pacifiers at 3-4 years old still. I doubt your 2 year old was potty trained at birth, so why would you or your husband expect so much from a poor little puppy???? I think poor Parker is just exhausted from all of the expectations of him. Potty training can be frustrating but no one said it was easy, you needed patience. But if you can't give that to him maybe rehoming him to someone who will is best for him.

Drindahl 06-28-2006 08:04 AM

I have two yorkie pups that are 6 weeks old and they are using the newspaper (they are in their playpen) - I try and get them started using the paper before they leave me - however I tell everyone that gets one of my puppies that they are hard to housetrain and you have to be patient with them. I know its upsetting when they go on the carpet - I feel for her having to get rid of Parker and what she must be going through... I always tell the folks that get one of my puppies that if it does not work out I will take them back.. My husband built a room for the dogs and they cannot hurt anything... I am getting ready to furnish it with their own sofa and chairs and a tv !!!! Am I crazy?

Kizzys Mom 06-28-2006 08:05 AM

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Originally Posted by DENISE517
OK here is Parkers schedule... you will see he does not have roam of the house and is taked outside very often... I know I should not have called my hubby stupid, but at the time I was very upset... You can think I'm a terrible pet owner and maybe I am, but we and I say "we" have decided to rehome Parker. I just cant spend 24/7 with him and let my family suffer for it. Maybe he needs a home where no one works and can work with him more or better than I have. I am at my wits end. I have tried everything except the leash on the house thing and that is just not feasible for me. The stains are all urine. We tested that by putting milk and juice and pop on carpet and letting it dry and putting the black light over it. Nothing showed up. As for a trainer. We have none in our area that will come to the house. Have to go to Indy and it is way too expensive. Yes I may be a bad person, but I am keeping Maddie. This little girl has great bladder control. She too is on the same schedule as Parker and she will not pee in her crate. I do watch them outside to see if they are doing what they need to be doing before bringing them inside. Please trust that Parker is a sweetheart and I would never pass him off to another family without feeling like i've done all I can. His decision in no only my hubbys but also my own. You would not believe the day I had with him yesterday and I cant take it any longer. I truely feel like I've done all I can do.. Rather you agree or not... ok here is his schedule:

Parker gets up around 5:30 in the morning. We carry him out of his cage and to outside where he will pee and poo. He comes inside and goes back to sleep with me in my bed for 1 hr. I get up take him back outside he will just pee. I put him in the crate and feed him. After 20=30 minutes, I take him outside and he pee and poos again. Lately he has been pee and poo on the deck. I dont take him out on a leash, I just walk out with him since our yard is fenced in and we spent 2000.00 doing it for him. He comes back inside and plays in the family room with me for 20 min to 1/2 hr. Then I have to finish getting ready for work so he goes back into his crate. He will stay there till 12:00. I come home carry him outside and he will pee and poo. He does pee several times in his crate on the pee pad i spend about 20 minutes with him playing take back outside he pee and then I'm back to work. Hubby comes home takes him outside he pees and then directly back into the crate for supper. after about 20=30 min. he lets him back outside where he poo and pee and comes back in and plays. We watch him all the time and occassionally he will run into the other room and we yell and he comes directly back. *which i think he's been peeing. we talk him out every 1/2 hour after wards. around 9:00 i take his water away. usually around 10o or so I put him back into his crate and 10:30 back outside and he pee and poos in that 1/2 hr he pee in the crate. He comes back in and plays til 11L00 back outside pee and then to bed. in the mean time I think when he runs into the other room or he hind something he pee within a instant. That is what I dont understand. I really do have him on a sch. and I really do watch him, but after the black light test there were pee marks and marking stuff everywhere. He still squats. He has been fixed at 4 months. He will use the pee pads outside the cage and pee sometime within the 1/2 hr. or sometimes he will ring the bells at the back door. Lately he wants to pee on the deck. He pees in his crate, he will also pee on the pads sometimes.

Thank you for all your advice rather I liked it or not I guess I ask for it.. But this is the best thing.. Sometimes it just doesnt work out..... Parker will not be going to just any old home. I believe I've found a good one from someone here on yt. Anyone who wants to take on this responsiblity is a better person then I. I'm checking this persons ref. first. they are at home all day long and do have other yorkies. Sorry if you dont agree with this, but it is best... It wont be easy because i do love this little guy and spoil him to death!!!!

well Denise, I'm sorry this is happening, but like I said yesterday. To me its an issue between you and your husband. I for one have one of the best husbands I know of and anyone that knows us will tell you that. But he would not put up with a puppy we couldnt get to eventually train. Kizzy is almost 5 months old and she is finally getting the hang of letting us know and also holding it for me to get to the door for her most of the time. But she does still have times she just cant wait on me but pees right in front of the back door now and not all over the house. She isnt crated. she has our whole living room, dining room, kitchen, hall way and utility room to be free in. Just not our bedrooms and bathrooms. But I am a stay at home mom now and I had lots of time with her which I dont think she would be trained yet If I didnt. But I will tell you this, my husband is NOT a dog lover. He usually ends up loving them once I bring one home. Right now Kizzy goes to sleep on his stomach half the time in hubbys recliner at night before he goes to bed. But if it came right down to the wire of giving her up or tearing up our home, and we have no kids at home. I would try to find her a good home. Sometimes a person can only handle so much. And if I had a child 2 yrs old I can tell you now, hubby would NOT even have a puppy in the house peeing on things where our child has to play. He loves kids and ya know, kids come before dogs no matter what. You will still have one puppy left and your kids and you and hubby will keep having a good relationship. Hubby does not tell me what I can or can not do but we do try to respect each others feelings. If he did like dogs and wanted to keep a BIG one, say a lab or something even close to in my house I would tell him in a heartbeat, no way. I am the one responsible for my house cleaning and he is the one responsible to make sure we have nice things, so there fore, I figure I dont want him working his azz off trying to have nice things for one little dog to mess it all up. We have both worked hard over the years, especially him to have a nice place and now that we do, we try to keep it that way. So I would never bash your husband and I really dont think most people here actually meant to either. Its always easier tell others what to do than live with the decisions we have to make in our own daily lives. So just do whatever he and you decide is best to keep harmony in your home. I cant live in turmoil over one dog. I love my puppy a lot , but I love my husband lots more. We lost a daughter together and I know if we got thru that we could give up a dog. Believe me, losing a child is the worse thing anyone could ever have happen to them. So try to make a happy home for all of you as you never know what may happen tomorrow. I am not putting down dogs but there is more to life.

Tiger's Mom 06-28-2006 08:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Drindahl
I have two yorkie pups that are 6 weeks old and they are using the newspaper (they are in their playpen) - I try and get them started using the paper before they leave me - however I tell everyone that gets one of my puppies that they are hard to housetrain and you have to be patient with them. I know its upsetting when they go on the carpet - I feel for her having to get rid of Parker and what she must be going through... I always tell the folks that get one of my puppies that if it does not work out I will take them back.. My husband built a room for the dogs and they cannot hurt anything... I am getting ready to furnish it with their own sofa and chairs and a tv !!!! Am I crazy?

No, you certainly aren't crazy . . . I have a huge laundry room which is now occuppied by my 2 adorable babies . . . so they are very comfortable. My Tiger loves to sit on my leather computer chair (expensive one too at $1000 - although no more computer as it has been moved to the dungeon - that's my new term for my basement office) and the TV is constantly on all day long so they aren't bored (Nicelodian channel fo course) . . they get A/C or the heat is on during winter; it is tiled as well so I don't worry about pee missing the pad :rolleyes: We always want our babies to be comfortable 24/7 yeah :)

Yorkie3 06-28-2006 08:49 AM

Everyone........it's probably not my place, :confused: but I've chatted with Denise quite a bit the last couple of days. She wrote in an earlier post that she AND her husband have made THEIR decision. She feels so bad from all the posts that she doesn't even want to post anymore. :( Can we please give her the respect and compassion not to discuss HER situation anymore,(you've had to notice she has not responed lately) but encourage her to have the strength to move on. I feel so bad for her and what she AND her husband have come to decide. The decision was not an easy one, but what THEY feel is best for their home and family. Thanks everyone.

Rem&Silkmom 06-28-2006 09:04 AM

Don't feel bad do what is best for your family
 
I have not read all the post but I understand that sometimes a pet does not work out in a family and it is in everyone's best intrest to rehome.

I for one can understand. I decided to adopt a yorkie female from a breeder. She was 1 and half year old when i got her. I tired everything to house train her and after 9 months I gave up.

My whole world was comsumed by Silk and trying to get her to potty outside. After nine months I could not take it anymore. My hubby never made me feel bad and say I had to give her back to the breeder...it was my decision because Silk and I were so unhappy.

Please don't judge me...I think I did what was best and the breeder totally understood and replaced her with a puppy. I felt very sad and like a failure for a long time and was not sure about getting a puppy. But now I have Chance and a puppy fit much better into our household.

Also, I did want to mention on the pee pee thing. It took four months of vets telling me nothing was wrong with my dog (Remmy) when he was urinating all over the house. Finally after numerous tests ( that costs lots of money) they discovered that he had stones. However Remmy never peed on anyone but he was peeing all over the house.

myriamha 06-28-2006 09:18 AM

How old is Parker ? Eventually with good training he will learn .
Your hubby should not direct your life and tell you to give uo your puppy, if it was me I wont listen to him .:mad:

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Originally Posted by DENISE517
oH MY GOSH.... I'm so sad and crying my hubby just called me from work. I hadnt heard from him all day and usually he calls me 2 - 3 times a day. He said when he let Parker out today, He came back in and jumped on hubbys lap and peed on him.... and if you have read my previous thread about Parker you will understand how bad its been. My hubby said he didnt call me yet cause he was soooo mad and trying to calm down. He said he feels really bad and hated to tell me, but I must find Parker a new home that he has had enough. He said he know how much I love him and that this is going to be really hard. but he cant take it anymore. and it just puts him in a bad mood. Parker is such a sweety too. He love to cuddle and had a great personality... What am I going to do. He said I could wait til Lauryn My daughter gets home from Maine on the 9th before I do it, but I must do it. How am I going to live without this little guy. How will I find him a home who loves him just as much as I do and who will spoil him the way I do??? Who will give him a good home knowing he has this peeing problem so bad... I put the belly band on him last night, took him outside 2 times w/in one hour and i went with him. He did pee, and also I had to change his belly band 3 times within that hour he had peed so much. He is really not drinking alot of water to make him do this.... anyways he smelled so bad after this that hubby had to give him another bath. I just do not know how to live without him.....:confused: :confused: :confused: :confused: Why cant men be more understanding?????????????????????????????????????


Tashasmom 06-28-2006 09:24 AM

Denise,
I am so sorry. I know how much you cared for him..
I wish those on here could of practiced the same refrain as my mom does. When I am upset at Jay I say things about him to her I don't mean..she takes it for what it is..I"m just upset..she doesn't jump on the bandwagon and criticize him with me..she knows he's a good man..
My husband works so hard to pay for the things we have and it isn't fair to him that I allow any of my pets to ruin those things. I am the one that wants them not him..so I know i'm taking a chance. If he were ever serious about my animals then I know i'd have to do something that worked for us both. Which is what I feel you have done. You may not be allowed to keep parker but you do get to keep maddie..so when your feeling sad about parker being gone..just scoop up little maddie and give her lots and lots of kisses..
I don't think your a bad pet owner or a bad anything..I've seen your posts and it shows you care about your pets.
I'm here if you need me. Christy

I love Lucy 06-28-2006 09:24 AM

GOOD luck Denise..
 
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Originally Posted by Kizzys Mom
well Denise, i've come to the conclusion after reading all these post that it sounds like you've already done everything suggested or either he wont let you and you seemed to be just as disgusted to see your carpets like that as he was.
So if there is no suggestion here that you havent tried or some you wont try but, some you will BUT hubby wont let you try those, maybe the dog would be better off in a new home especially if it means putting a strain on your marriage. I honestly understand how it is when hubby just dont want to cooperate. But you did seem to ask for help and I think everyone tried but in the end its seems to be a problem only you and your husband can work out. so goodluck.

I agree.;)
Denise, after reading the posts I think you are over it. I think what is best now is to post him on YT to find him a new home. I am sure someone here will buy him. He is a beautiful dog.
SOmetimes a true animal lover must let one go of their furbaby if they know that they cannot provide them with the things that they need. ( training) This is a tough choice but you can keep in contact with the new owner (?)and may find out that he is doing great in a new home.

Kizzys Mom 06-28-2006 09:25 AM

what would everybody think if the administrator just closed this thread now? I think it would be good since she said they have their minds made up. If she wants to talk about it anymore she can start a new thread and let us know what happens to Parker.

Bailey's Peeps 06-28-2006 10:06 AM

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Originally Posted by vainchick5
I totally agree with you. It's ok to expect a pup to be completely housetrained within a day of being born but some people have their kids in diapers and using pacifiers at 3-4 years old still. I doubt your 2 year old was potty trained at birth, so why would you or your husband expect so much from a poor little puppy???? I think poor Parker is just exhausted from all of the expectations of him. Potty training can be frustrating but no one said it was easy, you needed patience. But if you can't give that to him maybe rehoming him to someone who will is best for him.

I agree - it's unrealistic to expect a puppy to be reliably housetrained so quickly. But the fact is, that is the fiance's expectation. No puppy needs to live in an environment where more is expected of him than he is able to provide, so the best thing for all concerned is to put the puppy into a home where the expectations of him ARE realistic.

DENISE517 06-28-2006 10:18 AM

ok let me first start by saying.... You guys have no idea.. I do not expect too much from expected Parker. For ANY dog to pee 4-5 times in one hour is crazy... That is not being realistic!!!!! So say whatever.. I really cant believe how mean everyone has been to me... I did really enjoy this forum but I will never return... I have met some really good friends on here and will continue to talk to them. Maybe everyone should take a look at there own lives... what works for some doesnt work for others.

Administration.... Please close this forum.. I am tired of the abuse. How dare people acting like Parker is abused and so much is expected.. He is one of the spoilest dogs I know!!!! And is loved beyond belief!!!! I'm tired of crying my eyes out over that you guys have to say... Its hard enough as it is.... I guess all in all it was my fault for turning to you for help... Sincerely, Denise

For all of you guys that have pm me personally and DOOOO understand.. I thank you from the bottom of my heart...You guys are good people and thats what make the world go round.

vainchick5 06-28-2006 10:24 AM

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Originally Posted by DENISE517
ok let me first start by saying.... You guys have no idea.. I do not expect too much from expected Parker. For ANY dog to pee 4-5 times in one hour is crazy... That is not being realistic!!!!! So say whatever.. I really cant believe how mean everyone has been to me... I did really enjoy this forum but I will never return... I have met some really good friends on here and will continue to talk to them. Maybe everyone should take a look at there own lives... what works for some doesnt work for others.

Administration.... Please close this forum.. I am tired of the abuse. How dare people acting like Parker is abused and so much is expected.. He is one of the spoilest dogs I know!!!! And is loved beyond belief!!!! I'm tired of crying my eyes out over that you guys have to say... Its hard enough as it is.... I guess all in all it was my fault for turning to you for help... Sincerely, Denise

For all of you guys that have pm me personally and DOOOO understand.. I thank you from the bottom of my heart...You guys are good people and thats what make the world go round.

I don't think anyone has been mean, but everyone is more worried about poor Parker. HE has to deal with all the changes and a new home. Yes sometiems a puppy can pee 4-5 times an hour. They have SMALL bladders. I think that you only want to hear positive things about yourself and your decision, and everyone has different opinions. If you are going to post, you have to accept negative as well as positive opinions. Some puppies are easier than others, but if everyone gave up, we'd have even more rehoming than we already do. But I can see that Parker needs more attention and patience so rehoming him is probably best.

Gingergirlsmom 06-28-2006 10:30 AM

Once again, someone came for help and support...and it didn't take long for the bashing to begin. I feel for this poor woman. She turned here for support. I know yorkietalk can be a great place for help and am always amazed and dissappointed when it turns nasty.

Denise, good luck with whatever decision you make. Your marriage and child come first, (as they should) and yet I can't comprehend how difficult it will be to give up your furbaby. Some of us will be here for you if that's what you end up having to do.

TootiesMom 06-28-2006 10:41 AM

:yeahthat: :clapsmile Yea, Ditto That!!!!!

Tiger's Mom 06-28-2006 10:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Gingergirlsmom
Once again, someone came for help and support...and it didn't take long for the bashing to begin. I feel for this poor woman. She turned here for support. I know yorkietalk can be a great place for help and am always amazed and dissappointed when it turns nasty.

Denise, good luck with whatever decision you make. Your marriage and child come first, (as they should) and yet I can't comprehend how difficult it will be to give up your furbaby. Some of us will be here for you if that's what you end up having to do.

I totally agree . . . we are losing great people because of all these hurtful comments. We do have a lot of passionate yorkie mommies here and oftentimes we forget to double check our messages when we post . . .

JiggityJig 06-28-2006 10:49 AM

I think everyone here feels passionately that when you bring an animal into your home, you are (SHOULD) be making a contract of responsibility and commitment to them.

But I think that another important point to remember is that sometimes, the animal/human match is just not a good one, for WHATEVER reasons.

It sounds to me like Denise and her family have tried and tried with Parker, and it's not our place to judge whether or not her methods of "trying" were the same as OUR methods of "trying" would have been. We don't live in her shoes, or her house, or her family, or her life. Bottom line is, she loved Parker, and she spent a lot of time and money and emotions and energy trying to help him fit into their life, and it just didn't work.

Now she's made the decision to give him a fresh chance in a new home, and I think that's her final act of love and kindness towards him as an owner. Good for her putting her marriage and her family first. And blessings on Parker and his new owner.

monkeyandpenut 06-28-2006 10:54 AM

Geez this has been a nasty Thread. But Denise, I hope you do the best thing for you and your family. I dont have kids yet...but im sure the day i do, my kids are going to come first. Im sure that everything will turn up for the best. Take care :)

Tiger's Mom 06-28-2006 10:55 AM

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Originally Posted by JiggityJig
I think everyone here feels passionately that when you bring an animal into your home, you are (SHOULD) be making a contract of responsibility and commitment to them.

But I think that another important point to remember is that sometimes, the animal/human match is just not a good one, for WHATEVER reasons.

It sounds to me like Denise and her family have tried and tried with Parker, and it's not our place to judge whether or not her methods of "trying" were the same as OUR methods of "trying" would have been. We don't live in her shoes, or her house, or her family, or her life. Bottom line is, she loved Parker, and she spent a lot of time and money and emotions and energy trying to help him fit into their life, and it just didn't work.

Now she's made the decision to give him a fresh chance in a new home, and I think that's her final act of love and kindness towards him as an owner. Good for her putting her marriage and her family first. And blessings on Parker and his new owner.

That she did and MORE . . .she found a wonderful YT member who want to take Parker . . .and she is just as doting as Denise . . . and the best part of all . . .we will continue to hear about Parker and get to see him grow. I just wish Denise will change her mind about leaving YT :(

Gingergirlsmom 06-28-2006 10:59 AM

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Originally Posted by mikey
i'm assuming that 90% of the people on this board are over the age of 16. so please people, lets be more sensitive with how we voice our opinions. yes, you do have the right to say whatever you think, but please refrain from being too critical.

none of us are in those shoes. we all come from different places and different backgrounds. so let us not be so judgemental. i'm not just talking about this one thread, but i know i've been "bashed" on here too and it's very much pointless.

it is true that not all dogs can be potty trained.

this is specially true for purebreds.

she has to consider the feelings of those who live with her. finding a yorkie a new home is NOT THE END OF THE WORLD.

please, back off and give this girl a break.

Mikey, once again you've impressed me with your maturity.

Yorkie3 06-28-2006 11:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Gingergirlsmom
Once again, someone came for help and support...and it didn't take long for the bashing to begin. I feel for this poor woman. She turned here for support. I know yorkietalk can be a great place for help and am always amazed and dissappointed when it turns nasty.

Denise, good luck with whatever decision you make. Your marriage and child come first, (as they should) and yet I can't comprehend how difficult it will be to give up your furbaby. Some of us will be here for you if that's what you end up having to do.


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If administration can delete this thread as Denise requested, GREAT, if not, please, after Denise's last post, let this be the LAST post. I never realized how cruel some are here. :thumbdown

Tashasmom 06-28-2006 11:05 AM

I hope she doesn't leave either..

vainchick5 06-28-2006 11:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Yorkie3
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If administration can delete this thread as Denise requested, GREAT, if not, please, after Denise's last post, let this be the LAST post. I never realized how cruel some are here. :thumbdown

Honestly this is ridiculous. NO ONE has been cruel to her. Everyone has stated the facts :you can't expect a 7 month old puppy to be 100% potty trained. SHEEEE came on here complaining about her husband and how we can help get her to change his mind, then that went to "WELL IT'S ACTUALLY MY CHOICE TOO" So the story has changed a couple of times. Yet I see no rude or cruelness just people laying out their opinions and the facts as they see it. No one has banished her, that is her choice. Lots of people have rehomed their dogs, she was looking for an answer to avoid rehoming and that is what people provided her with. I'm really tired of people coming on here, blaming the poor dog, then expecting sympathy from everyone. Sorry I have sympathy for the dog.


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