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kellyandjohn 06-21-2006 05:50 AM

tea cup yorkies ???
 
hello i posted on here last year looking for a tea cup yorkie. well my husband got me one and he had i t flown in. she was 6 months old and the most beautiful thing i ever saw. well she had a seizure the first night i got her and we started giving her nutrical. i never had anymore problems with her until friday. she threw up a little bit and i really didn't think much of it . i gave her a bath and afterwards she was fine. the whole day went by and she was acting like she always does. saturday morning i woke up and she was completely comatose. needless to say she passed away.

my question is does anyone on here have any small yorkies of this size? and if so are they fine, i mean are there healthy little dogs like this? my heart is so broken i cant stop thinking of her but i am so scared to try and replace her. any help with this would be greatly appreciated.

thanks kelly

Mitzis Mom 06-21-2006 05:59 AM

I'm sooooo sorry for your loss! Unfortunately I can't give you any feedback, just wanted to tell you how sorry I am.:aimeeyork

red98vett 06-21-2006 06:00 AM

OMG THAT's HEARTBREAKING TO HEAR ! I just want to say how very sorry I am - and there must have been something wrong with her for her to pass away at 6 months old - :( :( :( :(

BLESS HER HEART - how tiny was she ?

IF you ever think of another yorkie - please read about so called 'teacups' and size issues - and find a reputable breeder - this should not have happened with that baby.

KellyV 06-21-2006 06:00 AM

I'm sorry you had to go through that... Who was the breeder? Are they aware of the pup's condition? Have you asked for any money back or a replacement pup?

A lot of time people will do whatever it takes to produce these so called "teacup" dogs and quite often the health of the pup suffers for it. Some "breeders" are only out to make money and don't care who or what suffers along the way.

Not all small dogs are unhealthy though. Pixie tips the scales at about 3.5 lbs and we haven't had a single health problem yet (she'll be 1 next month). There's plenty of YT members with healthy dogs under 4 lbs. You just need to find a good, reputable breeder that strives to produce happy, healthy dogs, who will stand behind their puppies 100%. If you decide to get another pup, take a look at the quality and health of the dog first, and let size come second...

red98vett 06-21-2006 06:02 AM

VERY WELL SAID ! :thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup:

Lexi Rae 06-21-2006 06:03 AM

im so sorry for your loss..

k3teejay 06-21-2006 06:06 AM

I'm really not an expert with this breed (although I'm trying to gather as much information as I can because I LOVE yorkies), but I do know that there's no such thing as a "teacup" yorkie. Yorkies that are extremely tiny are usually runts or they were bred with extremely tiny yorkies, which IS NOT healthy. So to answer your question, smaller yorkies (IMO) do have more health issues. TeeJay is a little over 4 pounds and I'd wish he'd gain a little more weight, although he fits the weight for a standard yorkie. If any the information that I stated is incorrect, please feel free to correct me since I am still learning about this breed myself.

chattiesmom 06-21-2006 06:08 AM

Kelly, first of all, please let me offer condolences on your loss. I know it hurts. Many of us here at YT have small and very small Yorkies. Peppy is 6" tall and 7" long and weighs 3 1/4 lb. He is almost 20 months old. I do not consider him "small". He is a normal, regular, halthy, social dog. :D


Sometimes, small ones just happen -- they are perfectly normal, healthy dogs born from regular sized parents who just happen to throw small off spring.

Some wise breeders spend years and years and spend tons of money buying dogs and trying different genetic combinations until they are able to breed healthy happy small Yorkies. I would venture to say that breeders in this category get HUGE big bucks for their little darlins and rightly so, they have spent the time and effort and deserve to be financially rewarded for their efforts. This category of breeder would probably be so very picky about who gets their babies that it would be easier to adopt a human child than to get "approved" to become a Yorkie Parent.

Other times breeders use questionable breeding practices to reduce the size of the dog and in doing so are directly responsible for producing unhealthy genetically unsound dogs. This last category is the one you must look out for.

Please remember -- all yorkies are small -- any dog that meets the AKC standard of under 7 lbs. is SMALL. Please when looking for a Yorkie, don't sacrafice health for size -- put HEALTHY first on your list followed by HAPPY -- size, if on the list, comes somewhere lower on the list.

kellyandjohn 06-21-2006 06:27 AM

first i want to say thank you to all, i truly am heart broken. she was the most lovable and friendly little girl. she played her her little friend which was my cat and now my cat is very heart broken too.i had gotten her when she was 6 months but when she passed away friday she was 1 year and 3 months. she seemed very healthy other then her having the first seizure the day that i got her. i did call her the day athat i received her after the seizure and she told me that she had one when she was about 2 months old. i was upset withthe breeder for not telling me this when i purchased her but all she said was send the dog back. i din't want to send her back she was just too perfect. she only weighed 1 pound 10 ounces.that is what i mean when i say tiny yorkies. is that just too small does anyone own one of this size?

Dragonfly 06-21-2006 06:30 AM

I'm so sorry, I have a 3 lb little boy that is heahty as can be & 4 lb little boy & a little girl that's 5 lbs. I hope you can one day get you another one, there's so loving. Best wishes

red98vett 06-21-2006 06:32 AM

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Originally Posted by kellyandjohn
first i want to say thank you to all, i truly am heart broken. she was the most lovable and friendly little girl. she played her her little friend which was my cat and now my cat is very heart broken too.i had gotten her when she was 6 months but when she passed away friday she was 1 year and 3 months. she seemed very healthy other then her having the first seizure the day that i got her. i did call her the day athat i received her after the seizure and she told me that she had one when she was about 2 months old. i was upset withthe breeder for not telling me this when i purchased her but all she said was send the dog back. i din't want to send her back she was just too perfect. she only weighed 1 pound 10 ounces.that is what i mean when i say tiny yorkies. is that just too small does anyone own one of this size?

Oh sweetie - that's just so so sad for you. I know just what you mean - how can you spend time with a puppy and send her BACK ? ...that's just awful she passed.

UNFORTUNATLY - there are BAD Breeders who will breed yorkies of very tiny sizes - and many times - with Genetic Defects....the really good breeders would never do this - but it sounds like your breeder did something not 'right' and sold you a puppy that may have had problems you weren't aware of.... and that's just plain sad...for both your yorkie and you.

Some Breeders can really fool you with their Sales pitch :(

In the future ....the best way to find one is word of mouth and try to talk to others who have dealt with the particular Breeder you may become interested in. It's really hard finding a Breeder with Ethics - many people have jumped into the Breeding Ring and it's the yorkies who are suffering in the long run - and those who love them.

michiko 06-21-2006 06:34 AM

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Originally Posted by kellyandjohn
first i want to say thank you to all, i truly am heart broken. she was the most lovable and friendly little girl. she played her her little friend which was my cat and now my cat is very heart broken too.i had gotten her when she was 6 months but when she passed away friday she was 1 year and 3 months. she seemed very healthy other then her having the first seizure the day that i got her. i did call her the day athat i received her after the seizure and she told me that she had one when she was about 2 months old. i was upset withthe breeder for not telling me this when i purchased her but all she said was send the dog back. i din't want to send her back she was just too perfect. she only weighed 1 pound 10 ounces.that is what i mean when i say tiny yorkies. is that just too small does anyone own one of this size?

She was 1 lb 10 ounces at 1 yr and 3 months of age, or when you gotten her?

sshaw 06-21-2006 06:36 AM

I am so very sorry for your loss, it is so hard to loose them under any circumstances. I still grieve and it has been over a year and a half since I lost my beloved little girl. Not health issues, just a horrible, horrible, horrendous accident that will always haunt me.

I have had 3 tinies, all 2 ½ lbs. All were very healthy and never had any health issues. Perhaps I have just been very lucky, don’t know but they do take a very protective and watchful mom. I now have Dennis and he is 1 year and 2 months and is very healthy, happy, and quite the little challenge to keep safe as he insists on jumping from any height.

You can never replace them, though I am sure you did not quite mean that, you will however go on to love another. Your baby is out there, best of luck on your search for that is the hardest part. I am in the market for a little girl myself, but it is so hard to know just from a picture if it is the right one. I like to see them in person and meet the breeder.

Again, I am so sorry for your loss, I know how hear broken you must be.

ldenise 06-21-2006 06:38 AM

That is so sad to hear. I am very sorry for your loss.
I do not have a very small one like that, so i can't help you there.
What was causing the seizures?

KiKiPie 06-21-2006 06:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kellyandjohn
hello i posted on here last year looking for a tea cup yorkie. well my husband got me one and he had i t flown in. she was 6 months old and the most beautiful thing i ever saw. well she had a seizure the first night i got her and we started giving her nutrical. i never had anymore problems with her until friday. she threw up a little bit and i really didn't think much of it . i gave her a bath and afterwards she was fine. the whole day went by and she was acting like she always does. saturday morning i woke up and she was completely comatose. needless to say she passed away.

my question is does anyone on here have any small yorkies of this size? and if so are they fine, i mean are there healthy little dogs like this? my heart is so broken i cant stop thinking of her but i am so scared to try and replace her. any help with this would be greatly appreciated.

thanks kelly


I am so sorry for your loss. Tiffany will be one year old the day after tomorrow and she weighs 2 pounds 3 oz. She has never had any health problems so far. (knock on wood) I would defin. get another one. But if you decide not to I would totally understand. Good luck
:)

kellyandjohn 06-21-2006 06:41 AM

i agree with the health over size issue. thats why i wanted a puppy that was a little older rather than an 8 week old puppy. other than her first seizure she was . when i took her to my vet he agreed she was very healthy looking. he said she had hypoglycemia and it probably gave her a seizure due to the stress from having her shipped here. i never heard of anything like that but he gave my the sugar supplement and said she would be fine and she had been. until this time. how do you know that they are healthy other then what the vet says. granted i understand that i should have probably done more research on this puppy and the breeder, but when she came too my home i just couldn't give her back. i immediately bonded with her. i do feel that the breeder should have told me this before selling me this puppy but she said that the hypoglycemia is normal in these dogs. but i could have at least been prepared and made my decision based on that. well no matter what i am glad that i had her and wouldn't have changed it for anything i am just sorry shes not still here with me.
thanks kelly

chachi 06-21-2006 06:49 AM

If she weighed 1 lb 10 ounces that is too small and that is why she was so sick. I am sure there was some underlining problem and thats why she didnt gain weight. The smallest dogs in the world were yorkies that were 1 lb and they didnt live long either.

kellyandjohn 06-21-2006 06:49 AM

when she passed she was just shy of 2 pounds. i will have too post a picture of later if i can figure it out. but she looked perfect. by all means she din't look skeinny or unhealthy she was completely gorgeous. and very very active and she ran the house. no i would never be able to replace her just may be fill the whole in my heart. but she was just too special. she could give me high five but she wouldn't do it for my husband or kids. just little things like that make it hurt.

thank you all once again

red98vett 06-21-2006 06:51 AM

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Originally Posted by kellyandjohn
when she passed she was just shy of 2 pounds. i will have too post a picture of later if i can figure it out. but she looked perfect. by all means she din't look skeinny or unhealthy she was completely gorgeous. and very very active and she ran the house. no i would never be able to replace her just may be fill the whole in my heart. but she was just too special. she could give me high five but she wouldn't do it for my husband or kids. just little things like that make it hurt.

thank you all once again

I'll help you post a picture - I'm pming you my email address -

and you can do a thread about her in the RIP section - many of us will post a tribute for your lost baby and sometimes it really helps with grief.....

kellyandjohn 06-21-2006 06:52 AM

i understand but how do you know if they are unhealthy. wouldn't my vet have known. i have seen people with these little dogs and there not sick. even sallie wasn't sick, never even acted sick. that's why first question was if anyone has one that small, i'm just trying to find out if they had any problems.

kellyandjohn 06-21-2006 06:55 AM

thanks red98vett.

chachi 06-21-2006 07:09 AM

The vet sometimes doesnt know there is a problem untill you bring it to there attention. My vet would not give them an okay for a clean bill of health untill they were at least 2 lbs. Alot of people on here have small ones but they are 3 or 4 lbs. I think there was something wrong with your dog to be so extremely small.

michiko 06-21-2006 07:11 AM

I don't know how you found the breeder. And I am not so expert.. but I would think that the key point is to find a good good breeder. I have gotten a small yorkie about 10 days ago from a reputable breeder. I started wanting a yorkine last August and it took me long time to get ready.

There are things that I tried to pay attention in terms of looking for a pup:

1. I wouldn't want a breeder that would ship the pup. (If the pup is really small or runt, and if the breeder is not worrying about shipping.. red flag for me)

2. The breeder is always available for any questions without getting annoying. And I like honest breeder... who can answer any questions or listen to any concerns.

3. I would definitely visit the breeder. I wouldn't buy a pup unless I have visited the breeder to get to know her/him. (I visited mine twice before getting a pup)

4. The breeder had never had such a small pup. So she took her to vet for all the tests and check-up. She also shared the all the medical records with me. (This was very important for me.)

5. The breeder has to be definitely honest. She/he should be able to tell you one or two things that you should be careful about. There is no dog that you don't have to be careful at all. Something to watch out. Advice on feeding.. what kinds of food... all the information about vaccination..

6. Available any time.. and not telling you something after long time.. A breeder who tells you everything up front.

At Last... I would avoid small pups!! I got one because I really liked the litter not because of her size, and I am confident to take care of the pup and have a good relationship with the breeder to ask for help.

One last thing!!! I recommend Sylvan Yorkies in PA! :D :D :D

And.. oh one more thing.. I should have said in the beginning.. I am really sorry about your loss :( it must be heart breaking.

kellyandjohn 06-21-2006 07:25 AM

thanks. i should really have done research. actually i went on puppyfind.com and there are so many on there some even smaller. i really thought that it was normal for dogs to be of this size when there parent are also small. but i did choose her because of her size. selfish on my part but again i didn't know anything about that being a bad thing. she looked healthy. if you go on that website you will see many little dogs of that size.

chachi 06-21-2006 07:27 AM

Be careful of Puppyfind there are also alot of scammers on there. Thats why you are probably seeing alot of ads for smaller yorkies

kellyandjohn 06-21-2006 07:29 AM

kikipie- sorry i really don't know how to reply to your post i hope i'm doing this right, but anyway is there really much of a difference in ounces i mean your little baby really couldn't have been much bigger then mine right? so there are some that aren't sick and are that small.
thanks you guys are all very helpful

diva pup 06-21-2006 07:36 AM

First let me say that I am so sorry for your loss. It is I can imagine the most horrible thing for a loving pet owner to go thru particularly when you do not know why.
Tinies do happen and often with reputable breeders, but I would NEVER recommend buying from ANYONE who breeds for tinies on purpose. Please realize that this type of person is NOT reputable or wise, not in any sense of the word. And that the only thing these "tiny" breeders have researched is how to get the most money for their puppies.
It will save you much heartache in the future and I think you have suffered enough of that with your previous experience.
You have all my sympathy on the loss of your baby. Dawn

red98vett 06-21-2006 07:43 AM

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Originally Posted by diva pup
First let me say that I am so sorry for your loss. It is I can imagine the most horrible thing for a loving pet owner to go thru particularly when you do not know why.
Tinies do happen and often with reputable breeders, but I would NEVER recommend buying from ANYONE who breeds for tinies on purpose. Please realize that this type of person is NOT reputable or wise, not in any sense of the word. And that the only thing these "tiny" breeders have researched is how to get the most money for their puppies.
It will save you much heartache in the future and I think you have suffered enough of that with your previous experience.
You have all my sympathy on the loss of your baby. Dawn

:thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup: VERY Well said

JCarlson2004 06-21-2006 08:06 AM

I'm so sorry for your tragic loss
 
This is just devestating. I am so sorry for your loss. :( :( :( I lost my little girl Katie about 8 months ago and I still grieve for her every day -- so I understand your pain. May your little darling rest in peace.

My Katie (who sadly passed away) was 2.6 lbs full grown. She was not intentionally bred to be tiny. Her parents were both standard sized Yorkies. So I guess you could say she was the runt of the litter. My new Yorkie princess, Tia Rose, is also a tiny little girl. She's under 3 lbs too.

Here's my opinion on tiny dogs:

Breeding tinies to make more tinies is totally wrong and unethical. However, if standard size parents produce a tiny, then that is acceptable but I would (if I were the breeder) have the tiny spayed BEFORE sending her to her new home to guarantee that she would never be FORCED to breed.

I bought my little Tia -- who was bred from 2 STANDARD size parents -- and she has no health issues (so far and THANK GOD). Now people who intentionally breed TINIES for the popular demand to make more tinies -- well, that's a whole different story. That is seriously wrong and disgusting. I call those so-called "breeders" BUTCHERS. They only breed GREED.

OWNING a tiny isn't wrong -- every dog deserves a loving home.

BREEDING a tiny to create more tinies is wrong. Most of the time, these unethical breeders breed the smallest little female possible (exposing her to great health risks, c-sections and even possibly death) just to produce tiny pups. Because of this, those pups produced could have very major health issues as they grow up.

If you're emotionally ready for another Yorkie baby (they really can help you heal) and you want another tiny, I would check out different breeders and see if they have any standard size parents that do occassionally produce tinies. If they do, I would ask to be put on a waiting list for a tiny. You may have a long wait ahead of you but if you truly want a tiny Yorkie and are fully educated about all the health risks, then it will be worth the wait.

I wish you all the best. May your little angel rest in peace. :(

vainchick5 06-21-2006 08:08 AM

I\'m so sorry for your loss. It\'s a shame that some breeders don\'t care. My little girl is a tiny and she was only 1 lbs when I got her at 3 months old. I never had any health problems with her, and no hypoglycemia issues either. I think part of it is because she wasn\'t bred to be a tiny, she came from standard size parents, she was just small. But I love her breeder because she was so kind and so personable. She answered all of my questions with no problems or annoyance. We have a lot of reputable breeders on this board who can provide you with so much information and a healthy pup. Are you going to be getting any money back from her?


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