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JRosal 06-01-2006 11:08 AM
Cruel to use this anti-bark collar?
 
http://www.petco.com/Shop/Product.as...12332&#details

Does anyone know if this will hurt a 3 month old yorkie? We're so fed up with her constant barking in the middle of the night. We've tried sleeping near her (not on the same bed), placing our shirt in her sleep area, radio, ignoring her (which only seems to stop the barking/crying if she goes on for at least 1.5 hours), covering her ex pen with a blanket as our puppy trainer suggested) and treating her when she stops barking for the quick second she quiets down like our trainer recommended, shaking the can with pennies at her which lasts all but a few seconds, telling her no/uh oh, 'shhh', be quiet, everything else everyone here suggested that posted about last week, taking a fly swatter and showing it to her and saying 'uh uh', squirting water at her, etc etc.

Please don't misunderstand that I am being mean to our baby girl but she is driving us nuts and we're losing sleep...this is only a last resort

It occurs in the middle of the night, 5am, when we come home from work, and when we do not give her enough attention and it goes on for hours, the girl can bark up a storm. Otherwise, she is a sweet puppy

Lacy's Mom 06-01-2006 11:15 AM
I think she is too young for something like that. It sounds like you've tried everything. The only thing I can think of that you didn't mention is earplugs for you! I let all of mine sleep with me. I guess this is a personal decision, but I am sure that would probably work.

jager 06-01-2006 11:19 AM
I agree 3 months is way too young for something like that. I would think something that it would be dangerous for any small dog. I was always under the impression that those collars were made for the big dogs. Shes still a baby, hopefully she'll grow out of it.

shecass 06-01-2006 11:19 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by JRosal
http://www.petco.com/Shop/Product.as...12332&#details

Does anyone know if this will hurt a 3 month old yorkie? We're so fed up with her constant barking in the middle of the night. We've tried sleeping near her (not on the same bed), placing our shirt in her sleep area, radio, ignoring her (which only seems to stop the barking/crying if she goes on for at least 1.5 hours), covering her ex pen with a blanket as our puppy trainer suggested) and treating her when she stops barking for the quick second she quiets down like our trainer recommended, shaking the can with pennies at her which lasts all but a few seconds, telling her no/uh oh, 'shhh', be quiet, everything else everyone here suggested that posted about last week, taking a fly swatter and showing it to her and saying 'uh uh', squirting water at her, etc etc.

Please don't misunderstand that I am being mean to our baby girl but she is driving us nuts and we're losing sleep...this is only a last resort

It occurs in the middle of the night, 5am, when we come home from work, and when we do not give her enough attention and it goes on for hours, the girl can bark up a storm. Otherwise, she is a sweet puppy

I personally would try the squirt gun. I've used it on our friends Min Pin when we have her. She is probably 7 or 8 years old and she just likes to bark constantly while she is outside at people or other animals that she has seen before. It doesn't hurt them it just makes them realize that the behavior is unacceptable. I don't do it all the time just if she keeps it up for longer than 15 minutes.

Good Luck and keep us posted.

Lexi Rae 06-01-2006 11:20 AM
i wouldnt do it..NEVER , NEVER , NEVER. she wants to be loved thats all.

Shanatink 06-01-2006 11:21 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by JRosal
http://www.petco.com/Shop/Product.as...12332&#details

Does anyone know if this will hurt a 3 month old yorkie? We're so fed up with her constant barking in the middle of the night. We've tried sleeping near her (not on the same bed), placing our shirt in her sleep area, radio, ignoring her (which only seems to stop the barking/crying if she goes on for at least 1.5 hours), covering her ex pen with a blanket as our puppy trainer suggested) and treating her when she stops barking for the quick second she quiets down like our trainer recommended, shaking the can with pennies at her which lasts all but a few seconds, telling her no/uh oh, 'shhh', be quiet, everything else everyone here suggested that posted about last week, taking a fly swatter and showing it to her and saying 'uh uh', squirting water at her, etc etc.

Please don't misunderstand that I am being mean to our baby girl but she is driving us nuts and we're losing sleep...this is only a last resort

It occurs in the middle of the night, 5am, when we come home from work, and when we do not give her enough attention and it goes on for hours, the girl can bark up a storm. Otherwise, she is a sweet puppy
I personally think those are cruel on any size dog. Yorkie's bark alot- thats a characteristic of the breed. Sometimes Chloe really goes at it with the barking especially if Penny has somethign she wants. I just try to seperate her from Penny until she calms down or I try to give her somethign to chew on, or I have them play outside until she tires out. You just have to sort of figure out what works. If your dog is 3 months they are still a puppy and it will take a little while to figure something out. I dont think shock collars or anything remotely like that is a very good tool to use. I think we have no way of knowing how the dog really feels when they are wearig them like wether they are hurting them or not so thats why I dont like them.

I hope you find somethign that works :)

chachi 06-01-2006 11:21 AM
Dr Fosters and Smth has those collars and it says for dogs 8lbs or more

sashajade 06-01-2006 11:23 AM
it dont say what it does? id say one that just sprays the little one with water would be best.

sashajade 06-01-2006 11:27 AM
most yorkies are yappy and some dont grow out of it, brandi barked a lot and it took a couple of months to train her to stop when told to, you dont say how long you have had the pup for.

shecass 06-01-2006 11:30 AM
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Originally Posted by shecass
I personally would try the squirt gun. I've used it on our friends Min Pin when we have her. She is probably 7 or 8 years old and she just likes to bark constantly while she is outside at people or other animals that she has seen before. It doesn't hurt them it just makes them realize that the behavior is unacceptable. I don't do it all the time just if she keeps it up for longer than 15 minutes.

Good Luck and keep us posted.

I don't squirt her in the face the only part that ever gets wet is her back, and she doesn't get very wet at all. I most definitely wouldn't not approve of squirting her in the face. Have you tried putting her somewhere other than your bedroom to see if that helps. Or you may want to just break down and put her in the bed with you.

Neither of my yorkies bark a whole lot so I guess we are very lucky.

It's really just preference.

JRosal 06-01-2006 11:39 AM
We've had Zoe for probably 3 weeks now. She's been like this since we took her home and it's been non-stop.

I like the ear plug idea but I still feel as if I'm neglecting her if we ignore her cries.

I'm afraid putting her on our bed will spoil her and she will expect it forever. She actually sleeps in an ex pen downstairs near her brother Chester whom we're seperating when unsupervised due to potty training (Chester is potty trained, Zoe is in the works) We've been sleeping in our sofa sleeper since we've gotten her which is about 5 steps away from her ex pen.

Ok, I will pass on the collar and think of something else less cruel...you've all convinced me! I hope she'll grow out of it. Maybe I'll try the Citronella spray, any opinions on that?

Lacy's Mom 06-01-2006 11:47 AM
Oh yes, if you let her sleep with you she will expect it forever, but I don't see any harm. You say she is separated from the other one. Why not put them in together. You have to remember that dogs do have natural instincts. In the wild if they were separated from the pack they would be in danger. So she would whine or bark and a member of the pack would come quickly to get her to keep her safe.

Lacy's Mom 06-01-2006 11:54 AM
About the citronella collars. They actually have better results in field trials than the shocking collars. The only complaint is that they can stain furniture and the microphone has to be set very carefully or it will pick up a bark from another dog and go off. No one seems to mind the smell.

shecass 06-01-2006 11:55 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by JRosal
http://www.petco.com/Shop/Product.as...12332&#details

Does anyone know if this will hurt a 3 month old yorkie? We're so fed up with her constant barking in the middle of the night. We've tried sleeping near her (not on the same bed), placing our shirt in her sleep area, radio, ignoring her (which only seems to stop the barking/crying if she goes on for at least 1.5 hours), covering her ex pen with a blanket as our puppy trainer suggested) and treating her when she stops barking for the quick second she quiets down like our trainer recommended, shaking the can with pennies at her which lasts all but a few seconds, telling her no/uh oh, 'shhh', be quiet, everything else everyone here suggested that posted about last week, taking a fly swatter and showing it to her and saying 'uh uh', squirting water at her, etc etc.

Please don't misunderstand that I am being mean to our baby girl but she is driving us nuts and we're losing sleep...this is only a last resort

It occurs in the middle of the night, 5am, when we come home from work, and when we do not give her enough attention and it goes on for hours, the girl can bark up a storm. Otherwise, she is a sweet puppy

I have used this collar before years ago on a great dane but, I didn't use it very long, I just couldn't so I took it back. I'm not sure how well it works but, I just don't think I would use one, after I thought about it I just didn't like the thoughts of using one. Just my preference.

JRosal 06-01-2006 11:55 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Lacy's Mom
Oh yes, if you let her sleep with you she will expect it forever, but I don't see any harm. You say she is separated from the other one. Why not put them in together. You have to remember that dogs do have natural instincts. In the wild if they were separated from the pack they would be in danger. So she would whine or bark and a member of the pack would come quickly to get her to keep her safe.
We're not keeping them together right now for two reasons, she tinkles and poops in the middle of the night in her pads and we don't want to encourage Chester to do the same and thus regress. Secondly, they are still fighting like cats and dogs so all play is supervised. We've had Chester longer and he's very territorial about his space and toys while Zoe plays rough (bites on his tail, legs, face hair, ears and does other things that really annoys him so he'll lunge at her but that's a seperate problem all on it's own :eek: AND they're both alpha's trying to fight over who will be the top dog at the moment (zoe is winning so far even though she is 3lbs and he is 8lbs lol!)


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