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Olivier 05-18-2006 07:35 AM

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Originally Posted by cindy0721
I agree... people should not be worried about the weight... I wonder If there is a way to permantly post the weight chart so if anyone EVER needs to get a estimated adult weight they can look this up.....http://yorkiepassion.com/growthchart.htm... why doesn't anyone use the handy tools admin posted for us(i.e search button?)??????

Even with posting the weight chart permanently , there will be peoples who will ask about the estimate adult weight of their pups .

GeorgiesMomma 05-18-2006 07:39 AM

I agree with Babyfidgette totally. When I first came on here I never posted anything about what would George weigh or how I wanted him to stay small (not that this isn't a public forum and people don't have the right to do that). I too am a first time Yorkie owner but I have always wanted George to be healthy that's my only concern. What bothers me is when people give you the parents weight and then say we want him/her to be under 4lbs. I don't think people realize how careful you have to be with such a small dog. I am always making sure he is okay, making sure he has ate his food (hand feeding him to make sure of it). I don't understand people that want a smaller Yorkie just to have other people gawk over them.

Kizzys Mom 05-18-2006 07:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Yorkie Owned
I think a lot of new members are first time yorkie owners and don't realize that the difference between a 5lb dog and a 7lb dog is really not that noticeably. Especially under a lot of hair! :p I have seen 9lbers that to me looked like maybe they were no more than 6lbs- I have seen 6lbers that I would have swore weighted 9!
Plus, when they went to pick out their "new baby" maybe the breeder put so much emphasis on size (this one won't get any bigger than 3lbs, this other one will be LARGER at around 4.5lbs... whatever!) New owners just don't know what to expect. Many breeders I think put this thought into their heads- I think a lot of times it's the breeder who places so much bearing on the puppies estimated adult weight. Then new owners come here looking for confirmation to what the breeder may have told them.
When I got my first yorkie I didn't know this forum existed. As a result, I didn't even realize how tini-tiny my girl was or all the risks she was at due to her size. I do know that I was always a nervous wreck where she was concerned for fear of stepping on her or kicking her across the floor or worse!
My breeder never described her as "teacup", she simply told me that the puppies out of this litter had been smaller in size than previous litters. She showed me the mom and dad, told me their weights so that I could get an understanding of what size she would probably end up being.
I think when newbies come on here asking questions about estimated weight, they just don't know that it really isn't a big deal to anyone who's not a breeder.

I agree with you. Some breeders make such a fuss about telling you, well, I wouldnt sell her to a few people who wanted her for breeding as she will be too small to breed and so on and so on and you dont know one thing about puppies hardly especially yorkies. and you lay our 300 extra dollars for her thinking she will be smaller than the one for 300 less. with some breeders its all about money and they show you the mom and dad and make you believe it is their parents and then the puppy ends up bigger than her parents and plenty big enough to breed it makes you wonder. Then you start researching and finding out things and then you find out your breeder has a kennel somewhere you couldnt see with all kind of dogs and you realize they can show you any dogs as the puppies parents if they look like a yorkie and only have a few cages in their house with like 5 puppies and say they arent into raising them yet but they are trying to get started. well to be honest, it makes me mad and now I'll never probably trust another breeder unless I'm referred by to them by a friend that I know wouldnt steer me the wrong way. Thats what happened to me but yet I really dont know if those were the parents or not. If I had known puppies dont always stay with in a close range of their parents and some come small and end up big I would of never bought Kizzy, I would have took my chances with the other one and kept my 300 dollars. So some breeders are just out for the money and will tell an unknowing person anything .

Olivier 05-18-2006 08:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Kizzys Mom
I agree with you. Some breeders make such a fuss about telling you, well, I wouldnt sell her to a few people who wanted her for breeding as she will be too small to breed and so on and so on and you dont know one thing about puppies hardly especially yorkies. and you lay our 300 extra dollars for her thinking she will be smaller than the one for 300 less. with some breeders its all about money and they show you the mom and dad and make you believe it is their parents and then the puppy ends up bigger than her parents and plenty big enough to breed it makes you wonder. Then you start researching and finding out things and then you find out your breeder has a kennel somewhere you couldnt see with all kind of dogs and you realize they can show you any dogs as the puppies parents if they look like a yorkie and only have a few cages in their house with like 5 puppies and say they arent into raising them yet but they are trying to get started. well to be honest, it makes me mad and now I'll never probably trust another breeder unless I'm referred by to them by a friend that I know wouldnt steer me the wrong way. Thats what happened to me but yet I really dont know if those were the parents or not. If I had known puppies dont always stay with in a close range of their parents and some come small and end up big I would of never bought Kizzy, I would have took my chances with the other one and kept my 300 dollars. So some breeders are just out for the money and will tell an unknowing person anything .

It goes both ways too . Some new owners are so annoying always asking for the smaller or as I often heard ... as small as possible .

Hickey007 05-18-2006 08:42 AM

I was partially obsessed with weight when I got Reagan however it was the other way around. I didn't want a tiny because I was so scared that she wouldn't be healthy. When I get another, not anytime soon thanks to my hubby, I will again be partially obsessed with weight. I want another around the same size as Reagan, not tiny, not large. I would just feel better if they were around the same size. Reagan by the way weighs between 6.5-7 lbs.

Now I completely don't agree with risking the dog's health to keep it small. I don't agree with keeping a dog small period, I don't think you could do that without risking its health. However if there are two yorkies one tiny one larger and both are just as healthy as the other I wouldn't really care which one someone picked or what their reasons are either. I actually choose yorkies, as many others probably did also, based strictly on their looks. I loved how they looked and wanted a small dog so this is the breed I choose. While I think they are more of an elegant breed than cutesy some people would call them cutesy. I personally would want my yorkie to stay as close to the standard as possible, I really wouldn't want a 13 lbs yorkie. Why well I can't really tell you, I don't breed nor show so it shouldn't matter but it does, that's just what I want. I will say when you asked why someone would want a smaller one I did immediately think of traveling. While some people would be fine taking a 7-10 lbs yorkie along on a plane ride, I really wouldn't. I'm going to Iowa soon and have thought about taking Reagan but really don't want to. I can't imagine her having much room under those seats (although I really can't imagine a 2 lbs yorkie having much room under those seats, you can barely fit anything under there). Like I said trying to get your dog to stay at a weight that's never going to happen is crazy, unhealthy and unethical. But wanting a smaller yorkie as long as it is healthy I don't really see the problem in that.

I think the biggest issue is research. No matter what size you want you really do need to do a little work ahead of time. That way in the end you won't be disappointed that your pup grew an exta 5 lbs or that you paid 15,000 for a dog that is of the same quality if not less than the dog down the street for 1,000. I know I did some reasearch but not nearly enough when I got Reagan. Next time though, since I'm prob a little more picky I'll definately do more.

browniesmom622 05-18-2006 08:44 AM

when i got brownie i wanted a 5-7 pound dog hes 18 pounds what am i gonna do starve him ? get rid of him ? NEver !! i cant carry him places but he does have legs for a reason TO walk and he loves it
my chi got to 10 pounds ( i knew he was gonna) people tell me are you upset he got so huge no hes a still very small
and who cares he has a awesome personality hes VERY smart that all i care about i think people are so crazed about size that they end up with a unhealthy nasty snappy little dog cause they dont pay attention to anything else beside weight its terrible

Latuya 05-18-2006 08:49 AM

It doesn't bother me one bit. People are here to learn. And we get the same question all the time from new people. It does get upsetting when they are stressing about weight. Like when they act like they will love the poor thing less just because it gets bigger then they thought or wanted. But some do pay extra for a "teacup" or a tiny and I do see the reason why they would be upset. That's where we come in. This site was to help educate and share all we can about the breed. Guessing weight is just that,,, a guess. And we have to be more understanding with the question. Just like the word "Teacup" I hate when others get all bent out of shape about it. There are far more things to get upset about then the word teacup!

What bothers me more is how some people think that the tiny ones are not as healthy as bigger ones. I have a tiny yorkie and it's true I would love him no matter what is size was. But he is as healthy as can be. You do have to be a little more careful then you would with a slightly bigger one. But 3,5,7 and even 10 lbs,,, that still is very small and yes you have to be a bit more careful with any very small breed. But to say they are unhealthy is just totally wrong!

Kizzys Mom 05-18-2006 08:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Olivier
It goes both ways too . Some new owners are so annoying always asking for the smaller or as I often heard ... as small as possible .

sorry, I didnt ask her which one would be the smallest. she just started telling me. there was very little difference in them that I could tell at the time and she said the one i wanted was 300 more after I told her I liked it. I thought they were the same price , then she said well the small one is the one I wont sell if you plan to breed her, then I told her I didnt plan to breed anything and she sees I liked that one and she said well she will cost more because she is smaller. I ask how much and she told me. So I paid it and i got her. It is the breeders place to tell the truth to the buyer.

army82ndssgwife 05-18-2006 08:53 AM

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Originally Posted by rrosenberry
Heres a story...
Neighbor has a 3.5 pound male, tiny.. so we're outside stranger walks by eww and ahhing about the little one not paying attention to Bailey..:( Then she says.. " that's the kind of Yorkie I want." I wanted to say,, "Yeah, and the $125.00 a month she pays for medication for him too?"
But I didn't...


I think this was a little out of line, because I have a female yorkie that is grown at 3.2 lbs and has never been to the vet for a single thing other than shots! Never had any problems at all! I don't think you should catogorize the "little" ones as the ones with all the problems. I'll be the first to tell you that when I started looking for a yorkie, I wanted a small one, teddy bear face, and CH bloodlines! People all have their things they are looking for! I realize that if my KaraBella got 10 lbs I would love her the same but this is not what I was looking for!
I just don't think everyone should look at it as the "small" ones have all the problems, this is not true!:animal-pa

Shadow 05-18-2006 09:08 AM

When I got Rocco in March he was almost 2 and weighed 4 pounds. to me he was underweight ,felt very boney. He now weighs about 5 1/2.Feels so much better to cuddle with. I get people say to me he is big for a yorkie isn't he...ummm NO!!!! I want to tell them people off!!!!

BlueMoonYorkie 05-18-2006 09:14 AM

Great post! My biggest pet peeve is those who continuously preach against breeding small yorkies (and I agree that you shouldn't) but then they turn around and have the smallest yorkes possible. In my opinion, when people flaunt and advertise their small babies they create a desire for other people to want them which creates a market which in turn encourages bad breeders to keep going for the smallest. I have heard every excuse in the book as to why they have small yorkies except the truth: they just want a small yorkie. It's a gigantic case of "do what I say and not what I do".

mikey 05-18-2006 09:14 AM

i think many people who get yorkies just want them to be their tiny cute paris hilton pup that fits in their purse.

that's why so many yorkies- or any other toy breed- end up in rescues or humane societies or continually passed from home to home.

i dont think there is anything wrong with tiny yorkies. but i do have a problem with people who only want them because they are cute.

SnowWa 05-18-2006 11:10 AM

Baby Fidgette - I agree with you 100%.

Of course, if people want to breed or show, they will want their Yorkies to be between 5 and 7 pounds (or 4 to 7 pounds - whichever the standard is).

Some people want very small Yorkies - But, unfortunately, there are many more health problems with these little dogs. Yes - some are healthy - but it is a fact that the tiny ones have more health problems than the standard-sized or larger ones.

A lot of people (like me) got a little Yorkie who has become 8 pounds and sometimes larger. These are still wonderful -small - little loveable pets.

I believe after reading thousands of posts that it is often (not always) the people with the very small Yorkies - or the ones who want very small Yorkies who are most concerned about weight. I was hoping my Yorkie would be a couple pounds less (5 to 7 pounds) -- but what the heck! He grew past that and what a wonderful (still small) little pet he has become. I am thrilled with his size now.

I agree -- too much emphasis is placed on this little breed's weight. And - it does get tiring reading about weight weight weight!!!!!


Carol Jean

shelbysmom 05-18-2006 06:23 PM

I believe that the people that are most troubled by people wanting tiny Yorkies are those that are a little disappointed that their own dogs ended up larger than they wanted.

If you are happy with your own dog why care? Some people just want tiny dogs. One of the reasons people want Yorkies is because they are one of the smallest breeds.

Guilty.

I searched for the breeds that were the smallest, then chose the personality etc. that would fit my lifestyle. When the info I read said under 7lbs. I (like most people that researched this breed) thought that would be great. When I read they averaged 4-7 lbs. I hoped for the lower number.

I do agree that healthy dogs should be the first priority. Larger dogs that come from poor breeders, pet shops and puppy mills are not necessarily healthy. And tiny dogs that come from good reputable breeders ( which does happen) are not necessarily unhealthy.

lilygurl 05-18-2006 06:51 PM

I don't think you can really change people, how they think or what they want. Big or small, it doesn't matter, people look for what they want and what will make them happy because who doesn't want to be happy? Thats what everyone looks for in life - happiness. For me, as long as the puppy owner is happy and the puppy is well taken care of, then it's all good :)


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