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sashajade · 04-27-2006, 11:33 AM

after reading some of the posts on here i just looked at a site called ARTICLE ALLEY which says tha first yorkies were in the 1850s and were shown between 5 and 18 pounds then in 1886 the english kennel club recognized them. the first yorkie welped in the usa was in 1872 and the akc divided the yorkie in to 2 groups under 5 and over 5 pounds but there wasnt many entrys for the over 5 pounds so they now have one group 3 to 7 pounds and the breed standard is 7 pound for the akc and the english kc.

sashajade · 04-27-2006, 11:51 AM

also another post talks about why yorkies are all so different well i guess its just like when a person has a baby with red hair and no one in the family has it but if they look way back in to there family they find a great great great grandfather had red hair so thats where it came from. so its the same with yorkies they started off big then breeders bred 2 runts together and the yorkie got smaller and smaller but every now and again a larger pup will pop up. the same with the colour of the yorkie even if you breed two with black hair you might get one pup with silver hair. people are talking about how to keep the breed standard but the only way that can be done is to only breed one size yorkie one colour yorkie from now on and any yorkies not fitting the breed standard are fixed so after years and years of doing this you end up with only the breed standard,which wont be done. imo the breed standard is not in keeping with the true original yorkie anyway as they were a lot larger. some breeders only cared about making money and found a smaller yorkie made more money so they bred the runts together (with health problems) just to make more money with no thought to what heath problems would follow.maybe the breed standard should change back to 2 weights one for small one for large so theres no more of this your yorkies not a good yorkie as its over 7 pounds.all weights should be allowed to be showed imo

sashajade · 04-27-2006, 11:56 AM

whats your opinion? do you agree with the breed standard? do you think it should change to fit all weights? what do you think the breed standard should be?

txshopper73 · 04-27-2006, 11:58 AM

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Originally Posted by sashajade

after reading some of the posts on here i just looked at a site called ARTICLE ALLEY which says tha first yorkies were in the 1850s and were shown between 5 and 18 pounds then in 1886 the english kennel club recognized them. the first yorkie welped in the usa was in 1872 and the akc divided the yorkie in to 2 groups under 5 and over 5 pounds but there wasnt many entrys for the over 5 pounds so they now have one group 3 to 7 pounds and the breed standard is 7 pound for the akc and the english kc.

Could you please post the link. Sounds like they have lots of interesting info and I would also like to read up on everything.

Thanks!

sashajade · 04-27-2006, 12:00 PM

sorry hun i dont know how to do them just put article alley in google

sunset yorkies · 04-27-2006, 12:01 PM

Sounds interesting ,yes please post the link.

Faith

Baron · 04-27-2006, 12:11 PM

This is the standard as it is today. The AKC can not change it, only the YTCA can do that.

General Appearance
That of a long-haired toy terrier whose blue and tan coat is parted on the face and from the base of the skull to the end of the tail and hangs evenly and quite straight down each side of body. The body is neat, compact and well-proportioned. the dog's high head carriage and confident manner should give the appearance of vigor and self-importance.

Head
Small and rather flat on top, the skull not too prominent or round, the muzzle not too long, with the bite neither undershot nor overshot and teeth sound. Either scissors bite or level bite is acceptable. The nose is black. Eyes are medium in size and not too prominent; dark in color and sparking with a sharp intelligent expression. Eye rims are dark. Ears are small, V-shaped carried erect and set not too far apart.

Body
Well proportioned and very compact. The back is rather short, the back line level, with height at the shoulder the same as at the rump.

Legs and Feet
Forelegs should be straight, elbows neither in nor out. Hind legs straight when viewed from behind, but stifles are moderately bent when viewed from the sides. Feet are round with black toenails. Dewclaws, if any, are generally removed from the hind legs. Dewclaws on the forelegs may be removed.

Tail
Docked to a medium length and carried slightly higher than the level of the back.

Coat
Quality, texture and quantity of the coat are of prime importance. Hair is glossy, fine and silky in texture. Coat on the body moderately long and perfectly straight (not wavy). It may be trimmed to floor length to give ease of movement and a neater appearance, if desired. The fall on the head is long, tied with one bow in center of head or parted in the middle and tied with two bows. Hair on muzzle is very long. Hair should be trimmed short on tips of ears and may be trimmed on feet to give them a neat appearance.

Colors
Puppies are born black and tan and are normally darker in body color, showing an intermingling of black hair in the tan until they are matured. Color of hair on body and richness of tan on head and legs are of prime importance in adult dogs, to which the following color requirements apply:

Blue: Is a dark steel-blue, not a silver-blue and not mingled with fawn, bronzy or black hairs.

Tan: All tan hair is darker at the roots than in the middle, shading to still lighter tan at the tips. There should be no sooty or black hair intermingled with any of the tan.

Color on Body
The blue extends over the body from back of neck to root of tail. Hair on tail is a darker blue, especially at end of tail.

Headfall
A rich golden tan, deeper in color at sides of head, at ear roots and on the muzzle, with ears a deep rich tan. Tan color should not extend down on back of neck.

Chest and Legs
A bright, rich tan, not extending above the elbow on the forelegs nor above the stifle on the hind legs.

Weight
Must not exceed seven pounds.

Approved April 12, 1966

Baron · 04-27-2006, 12:12 PM

Here is a pgae that you can read about the history of the yorkie and the different dogs that were used in creating our yorkies of today.

http://www.yorkieviews.com/yorkiehistory.htm

yorkiemom1970 · 04-27-2006, 12:14 PM

Great post Baron! I think the breed standard should be a sticky on yt. I have tons of copies of it, but I'm sure there are some who don't and would find it useful. Thanks!

sashajade · 04-27-2006, 12:18 PM

thanks

i have just found some more good sites, put YORKSHIRE TERRIER BREED STANDARD KENNEL CLUB in to google and a site from the bbc will come up and it tells you a lot more about the yorkie like what it was first called.

kaymo · 04-27-2006, 08:05 PM

I have several books on yorkies and their breed history. In one of them (I'm going to post the book's title and author as soon as I'm done here!) the author states that contrary to popular opinion (and several websites) the original yorkshire terriers that were larger than today's standard weighed about 10 to 12 lbs maximum. It goes on to state the physiological reason why they weren't or couldn't be close to 20 lbs as many believe. Since they were bred as ratters they had to be small enough to get down in the rat holes. The book also says there were many weighing under 5 lbs, hence the reason why show groups were divided into 2 groups for yorkies over 5 lbs and under 5 lbs.

sashajade · 04-28-2006, 04:04 AM

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Originally Posted by kaymo

I have several books on yorkies and their breed history. In one of them (I'm going to post the book's title and author as soon as I'm done here!) the author states that contrary to popular opinion (and several websites) the original yorkshire terriers that were larger than today's standard weighed about 10 to 12 lbs maximum. It goes on to state the physiological reason why they weren't or couldn't be close to 20 lbs as many believe. Since they were bred as ratters they had to be small enough to get down in the rat holes. The book also says there were many weighing under 5 lbs, hence the reason why show groups were divided into 2 groups for yorkies over 5 lbs and under 5 lbs.

im talking about when they were first bred,as at first they were not called yorkshire terriers and that was before the kennel club called them yorkshire terriers. yes they were bred down in size to fit down rat holes but at first they were used to kill the rats running around in the mines in yorkshire they first came from scotland with the men who got jobs in yorkshire down the mines.

ive seen pictures of the first kind of yorkies and they are very large.

Carinhosamulher · 04-28-2006, 04:22 AM

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Originally Posted by sashajade

sorry hun i dont know how to do them just put article alley in google

To post a link is very easy - you simply copy the URL of the site you went to. Highlight it, right click on the highlighted part then go to your post and right click again and paste. If right clicking doesn't work for paste, make sure the curser is in the box you plan on writing your post in, go to the top of the page, click on EDIT go down to Paste and there ya go!!

sashajade · 04-28-2006, 04:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Carinhosamulher

To post a link is very easy - you simply copy the URL of the site you went to. Highlight it, right click on the highlighted part then go to your post and right click again and paste. If right clicking doesn't work for paste, make sure the curser is in the box you plan on writing your post in, go to the top of the page, click on EDIT go down to Paste and there ya go!!

er er you lost me at the url lol but thankyou anyway

dont think im allowed to do them anyway as im a free member.

Carinhosamulher · 04-28-2006, 04:40 AM

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Originally Posted by sashajade

er er you lost me at the url lol but thankyou anyway

dont think im allowed to do them anyway as im a free member.

URL is the webaddress - it starts with http://__________ Start you highlighting at the 'h' and drag to the end.

04-27-2006, 11:33 AM	#1
sashajade YT 1000 Club Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: kent england Posts: 1,646	standard yorkie after reading some of the posts on here i just looked at a site called ARTICLE ALLEY which says tha first yorkies were in the 1850s and were shown between 5 and 18 pounds then in 1886 the english kennel club recognized them. the first yorkie welped in the usa was in 1872 and the akc divided the yorkie in to 2 groups under 5 and over 5 pounds but there wasnt many entrys for the over 5 pounds so they now have one group 3 to 7 pounds and the breed standard is 7 pound for the akc and the english kc. __________________ Facebook group yorkies & small terriers worlwide needing fur-ever homes & deathrow Zac Brandi Suki

04-27-2006, 11:51 AM	#2
sashajade YT 1000 Club Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: kent england Posts: 1,646	also another post talks about why yorkies are all so different well i guess its just like when a person has a baby with red hair and no one in the family has it but if they look way back in to there family they find a great great great grandfather had red hair so thats where it came from. so its the same with yorkies they started off big then breeders bred 2 runts together and the yorkie got smaller and smaller but every now and again a larger pup will pop up. the same with the colour of the yorkie even if you breed two with black hair you might get one pup with silver hair. people are talking about how to keep the breed standard but the only way that can be done is to only breed one size yorkie one colour yorkie from now on and any yorkies not fitting the breed standard are fixed so after years and years of doing this you end up with only the breed standard,which wont be done. imo the breed standard is not in keeping with the true original yorkie anyway as they were a lot larger. some breeders only cared about making money and found a smaller yorkie made more money so they bred the runts together (with health problems) just to make more money with no thought to what heath problems would follow.maybe the breed standard should change back to 2 weights one for small one for large so theres no more of this your yorkies not a good yorkie as its over 7 pounds.all weights should be allowed to be showed imo __________________ Facebook group yorkies & small terriers worlwide needing fur-ever homes & deathrow Zac Brandi Suki

04-27-2006, 11:56 AM	#3
sashajade YT 1000 Club Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: kent england Posts: 1,646	whats your opinion? do you agree with the breed standard? do you think it should change to fit all weights? what do you think the breed standard should be? __________________ Facebook group yorkies & small terriers worlwide needing fur-ever homes & deathrow Zac Brandi Suki

04-27-2006, 12:00 PM	#5
sashajade YT 1000 Club Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: kent england Posts: 1,646	sorry hun i dont know how to do them just put article alley in google __________________ Facebook group yorkies & small terriers worlwide needing fur-ever homes & deathrow Zac Brandi Suki

04-27-2006, 12:18 PM	#10
sashajade YT 1000 Club Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: kent england Posts: 1,646	thanks i have just found some more good sites, put YORKSHIRE TERRIER BREED STANDARD KENNEL CLUB in to google and a site from the bbc will come up and it tells you a lot more about the yorkie like what it was first called. __________________ Facebook group yorkies & small terriers worlwide needing fur-ever homes & deathrow Zac Brandi Suki

04-27-2006, 12:01 PM	#6
sunset yorkies YT Addict Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Ohio Posts: 413	Sounds interesting ,yes please post the link. Faith

04-27-2006, 12:11 PM	#7
Baron Senior Yorkie Talker Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 216	This is the standard as it is today. The AKC can not change it, only the YTCA can do that. General Appearance That of a long-haired toy terrier whose blue and tan coat is parted on the face and from the base of the skull to the end of the tail and hangs evenly and quite straight down each side of body. The body is neat, compact and well-proportioned. the dog's high head carriage and confident manner should give the appearance of vigor and self-importance. Head Small and rather flat on top, the skull not too prominent or round, the muzzle not too long, with the bite neither undershot nor overshot and teeth sound. Either scissors bite or level bite is acceptable. The nose is black. Eyes are medium in size and not too prominent; dark in color and sparking with a sharp intelligent expression. Eye rims are dark. Ears are small, V-shaped carried erect and set not too far apart. Body Well proportioned and very compact. The back is rather short, the back line level, with height at the shoulder the same as at the rump. Legs and Feet Forelegs should be straight, elbows neither in nor out. Hind legs straight when viewed from behind, but stifles are moderately bent when viewed from the sides. Feet are round with black toenails. Dewclaws, if any, are generally removed from the hind legs. Dewclaws on the forelegs may be removed. Tail Docked to a medium length and carried slightly higher than the level of the back. Coat Quality, texture and quantity of the coat are of prime importance. Hair is glossy, fine and silky in texture. Coat on the body moderately long and perfectly straight (not wavy). It may be trimmed to floor length to give ease of movement and a neater appearance, if desired. The fall on the head is long, tied with one bow in center of head or parted in the middle and tied with two bows. Hair on muzzle is very long. Hair should be trimmed short on tips of ears and may be trimmed on feet to give them a neat appearance. Colors Puppies are born black and tan and are normally darker in body color, showing an intermingling of black hair in the tan until they are matured. Color of hair on body and richness of tan on head and legs are of prime importance in adult dogs, to which the following color requirements apply: Blue: Is a dark steel-blue, not a silver-blue and not mingled with fawn, bronzy or black hairs. Tan: All tan hair is darker at the roots than in the middle, shading to still lighter tan at the tips. There should be no sooty or black hair intermingled with any of the tan. Color on Body The blue extends over the body from back of neck to root of tail. Hair on tail is a darker blue, especially at end of tail. Headfall A rich golden tan, deeper in color at sides of head, at ear roots and on the muzzle, with ears a deep rich tan. Tan color should not extend down on back of neck. Chest and Legs A bright, rich tan, not extending above the elbow on the forelegs nor above the stifle on the hind legs. Weight Must not exceed seven pounds. Approved April 12, 1966

04-27-2006, 12:12 PM	#8
Baron Senior Yorkie Talker Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 216	Here is a pgae that you can read about the history of the yorkie and the different dogs that were used in creating our yorkies of today. http://www.yorkieviews.com/yorkiehistory.htm

04-27-2006, 12:14 PM	#9
yorkiemom1970 No Longer a Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: North Carolina Posts: 1,947	Great post Baron! I think the breed standard should be a sticky on yt. I have tons of copies of it, but I'm sure there are some who don't and would find it useful. Thanks!

04-27-2006, 08:05 PM	#11
kaymo Donating Yorkie Yakker Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: NJ Posts: 346	I have several books on yorkies and their breed history. In one of them (I'm going to post the book's title and author as soon as I'm done here!) the author states that contrary to popular opinion (and several websites) the original yorkshire terriers that were larger than today's standard weighed about 10 to 12 lbs maximum. It goes on to state the physiological reason why they weren't or couldn't be close to 20 lbs as many believe. Since they were bred as ratters they had to be small enough to get down in the rat holes. The book also says there were many weighing under 5 lbs, hence the reason why show groups were divided into 2 groups for yorkies over 5 lbs and under 5 lbs.