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Storm · 03-15-2006, 07:50 AM

Welcome! I'm pretty new here too.

From what I can tell, this guy is an absolute snake. Take the advice given above from all the experienced Yorkie moms. Also, trust your instincts. It's obvious that you are feeling uncomfortable about the whole thing.

Laura · 03-15-2006, 08:03 AM

I am just dumb-founded by all this. I have been with this forum for almost a year. I have mostly kept my opinion to myself as I try not to be confrontational. I just do not see where all the animosity comes from. Is it jealousy? Or the fact that he refuses to conform? A lot of us live near there, he is border of Texas/Oklahoma. I have never seen even one person (besides myself) go to see his place. I am sure he would welcome you. I actually chose three puppies I wanted to see from his website, called ahead and drove up to see them. I did not put up a non-refundable deposit, we visited for a couple of hours, played with the puppies, talked to his children, were inside his house, saw another couple who had purchased a dog 8 months prior and came to pick up a sister for him (new pup). I found nothing shady about him at all, and I consider myself to be both a people person as well as a great judge of character. He is an open-honest person. I have no association with him other than this one-time visit and purchase; yet those of you with less knowledge slam him like a step-child. I just do not understand.

livingdustmops · 03-15-2006, 08:08 AM

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Originally Posted by dskeeter1983

well I dont know what you are talking about a frind of mine gat dogd from him and they are a lot more buetiful and wel mannerd then your dogs I bet.
Just leave the man alone or are you just jelouse that she got her dogs from him and they are healthier then yours
so why dont you all leave him a lone.

Tia, you certainly have a chip on your shoulders. For the record probably everyone has better mannered more beautiful Yorkies than I do because mine are all throw away dogs. I am involved with rescue and all of mine were rescued Yorkies and I really don't care if someone has prettier Yorkies than I do. I only care that I saved some of the dogs from being put down for being biters. I only care about the sadness some of my dogs went through. I only care about Tahit's leg as he was kicked so hard it was kicked out of the socket. I have spent more $$$ on these throw away dogs to make them well then if I had bought some of the high price pups he is selling

If you took the time to read all the threads about Jeff Dane you would see that many people have had problems with this breeder and if you went to his website you will see he is selling one for $10,000...don't you think that is a little greedy.

I am glad your friends dog is beautiful and well mannered and I am especially glad if it didn't come to her sick or have genetic health issues. Not everyone has been so lucky. IMHO there are much better breeders out there and for less $$$ than this guy is charging. I am allowed to post my opinion on YT and what you are not allowed to do is attack someone for their opinion.

JeanieK · 03-15-2006, 08:19 AM

When you buy from a breeder/broker that has that many dogs, how do you even know you are getting the same dog that you saw on the website. If he has that many dogs, he cannot possibly know anything about the individual pups. And he does not stand behind them if they develop health problems. There are certain to be people who have ended uip with nice healthy dogs. Odds are there are more good ones then bad ones. But it's a gamble, and I wouldn't buy from anyone who did not personally know the puppy and it's parents.

He can tell you anything he wants about the dog, but I assure you he can't possibly know anything about it.

There are a lot of yorkies out there. There are people on this forum that have puppies.

Laura · 03-15-2006, 08:30 AM

I am sorry, but I totally disagree. Not only do I know the dogs I saw when I got to Jeff's were the ones on the website; I have those baby pictures printed and in frames in my dog's room. Yorkies have many different looks; I can still identify pups that favor mine. I have six dogs and know each one's personality. Some breeders on here track all their babies and know their names. I am telling you, Jeff has a true love for these dogs, and you would see that if you visited his home. Everyone gets so hung up on the price of this one supposedly $10,000 or $25,000 dog - does he produce and sell these regularly? I don't really think so. I will have to revisit the site to see if it is really there, and how long he has had it. I purchased my two for a VERY reasonable $750/ea. I find his prices similar to less than most. I am afraid that jealousy is the key here. I wish I could afford to spend $10,000 per year just to GIVE yorkies away (at below cost to me) as some of you seem to do.

onelovelylynn · 03-15-2006, 08:31 AM

I cant understand why anyone would attack another just for airing there opinion.. We are all yorkie lovers here, or else why would we be here.. Everyone has an opinion.!!! And just because someone else does not like that opinion does not mean that they should attack the other.

We can all give our advise and our opinion, but noone has to take that advise or opinion. This is a yorkie talk forum, NOT a Im better than you forum.

Lets all just chill out, take a deep breath and think about what we are saying before we type. PLEASE !!!!

and thanks for letting me air my opinion....

Laura · 03-15-2006, 08:44 AM

These are Zowie & Bronx from the website (over 2 years ago), of course, I still think they are adorable.

I could see their little faces in the babies when they were little as well. To some, each yorkie has a face of their own. They do not 'all look alike.'

Tashasmom · 03-15-2006, 08:31 PM

livingdustmops..I'm soo sorry your baby went through what he did. I think it is wonderful what you are doing. I too have done alot of rescue..it's rewarding and heartbreaking. Unless people experience it first hand they have no idea the pain and heartbreak you see by looking into an abused animals eyes. It's something you never get over and never get used to. Beautiful you betcha nothing is more appealing than seeing a pet show it's first sparkle in a set of eyes that have known pain for so long. I had to fight to keep from crying when I read your post cause i like you know what its like to have a rescue pet. It's an emotinal roller coaster..some good some very upsetting. I can't tell you enough what a wonderful person I think you are for doing what you do. I'm not sure if you get told this enough..but thank you.

livingdustmops · 03-16-2006, 07:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Tashasmom

livingdustmops..I'm soo sorry your baby went through what he did. I think it is wonderful what you are doing. I too have done alot of rescue..it's rewarding and heartbreaking. Unless people experience it first hand they have no idea the pain and heartbreak you see by looking into an abused animals eyes. It's something you never get over and never get used to. Beautiful you betcha nothing is more appealing than seeing a pet show it's first sparkle in a set of eyes that have known pain for so long. I had to fight to keep from crying when I read your post cause i like you know what its like to have a rescue pet. It's an emotinal roller coaster..some good some very upsetting. I can't tell you enough what a wonderful person I think you are for doing what you do. I'm not sure if you get told this enough..but thank you.

Thank you for your kind words and it is very much appreciated and back at you because you have done rescue also. I truly believe beauty is in the soul of a person or an animal and not their outward appearance. I certainly can appreciate a beautiful animal but I love to look into the eyes of a happy dog as it bring incredible joy to me. From a dog cowering in a corner to one that runs and jumps into your arms is what is beautiful to me. Yes you are right, they bring a lot of extra baggage with them but again the high I get from working through these things is what I love. I really do enjoy people that are passionate about what they love to do if it brings joy to the animal. It tells me they have studied and learned as much as they can. What they do might not be my cup of tea as I am sure what I do is not theirs but I have learned to respect other people who study, train and learn as much as they can. We all learn from each other.

Tashasmom · 03-16-2006, 09:08 PM

It's hard..I think sometimes we all lose sight of whats really important. It's easy to do in this day and age. It takes all of us to help everyone and everything. Some help people some help animals and some help themselves lol..but I guess it takes us all to make this world go round.

megan_kat22 · 03-16-2006, 09:23 PM

livingdustmops and tashasmom, i just want to tell you great job for being involved with rescues. when i have the chance, i want to help as many as i can. we've already rescued one and i love him to death. without rescue organizations my baby wouldn't be here.

i do not know about this breeder, but before you buy, just do all your research and go with your instincts. if you have bad feelings about your conversations with him there are many other breeders out there, and from what i have heard, he has plenty of business anyway.

Tashasmom · 03-16-2006, 09:27 PM

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Originally Posted by megan_kat22

livingdustmops and tashasmom, i just want to tell you great job for being involved with rescues. when i have the chance, i want to help as many as i can. we've already rescued one and i love him to death. without rescue organizations my baby wouldn't be here.

i do not know about this breeder, but before you buy, just do all your research and go with your instincts. if you have bad feelings about your conversations with him there are many other breeders out there, and from what i have heard, he has plenty of business anyway.

Thank you. And same to you as well..
I got so wrapped up in livingdustmops post I forgot what started this thread lol..so when I read your post i was confused..I had to go back to the beginning to read the initial post..lol
I agree with doing your research and it's your pet so whichever breeder u decide to go with you are the one getting the puppy and none or many problems with it. Good luck..

piscesbaby · 03-16-2006, 09:55 PM

Well, yorkie lovers..thank you all for you comments again. I can say now that I have decided on what to do. I was looking through the message boards here and fell in love with the cutest little angel. I'm sure some of you have seen her in the for sale forum. Well, her family in New York have proven to be great people. My husband has been talking to them and everything has been extremely pleasant. I can honestly say that as far as Jeff Dane goes. I'm pretty sure that as Laura said...those that are happy generally never say anything. I just thought about it a lot and said that if I'm going to pay that much money, my experience better be good from beginning to end. I just feel like money talks with him and I really don't like to do business with that kind of person. I'm not saying he's a bad person, I just rather deal with a nicer person.

megan_kat22 · 03-16-2006, 09:58 PM

I'm glad you have found your baby! And I'm glad you went with your instincts so that this experience is as great as possible for you!

Baby Blessing · 03-16-2006, 10:14 PM

[QUOTE=piscesbaby] I was looking through the message boards here and fell in love with the cutest little angel.
Hi, Ahhhhhhhhh sounds like you have found your little yorkie, I wish you the best. What are you going to name it, are you getting female or male. This is such a great site and know you will find it so helpful. Look forward to seeing picture of your little one. We had a very pleasant communication with the breeder that we got Baby Blessing from and it just made the transaction much better which is as it should be. Getting a yorkie is a forever friend to the family and it should be sheer joy all the way around. Have fun with your new baby.
Patti, Jack and ~~Baby Blessing~~

03-15-2006, 08:03 AM	#17
Laura Donating YT 1000 Club Member Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Wylie TX Posts: 1,577	I am just dumb-founded by all this. I have been with this forum for almost a year. I have mostly kept my opinion to myself as I try not to be confrontational. I just do not see where all the animosity comes from. Is it jealousy? Or the fact that he refuses to conform? A lot of us live near there, he is border of Texas/Oklahoma. I have never seen even one person (besides myself) go to see his place. I am sure he would welcome you. I actually chose three puppies I wanted to see from his website, called ahead and drove up to see them. I did not put up a non-refundable deposit, we visited for a couple of hours, played with the puppies, talked to his children, were inside his house, saw another couple who had purchased a dog 8 months prior and came to pick up a sister for him (new pup). I found nothing shady about him at all, and I consider myself to be both a people person as well as a great judge of character. He is an open-honest person. I have no association with him other than this one-time visit and purchase; yet those of you with less knowledge slam him like a step-child. I just do not understand. __________________ Laura--loving mom of Robyn, Dexter, Sandy, Mattie, Sammy, Jake & Mollie http://www.yorkietalk.com/gallery/sh...00&ppuser=1851

03-15-2006, 08:30 AM	#20
Laura Donating YT 1000 Club Member Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Wylie TX Posts: 1,577	I am sorry, but I totally disagree. Not only do I know the dogs I saw when I got to Jeff's were the ones on the website; I have those baby pictures printed and in frames in my dog's room. Yorkies have many different looks; I can still identify pups that favor mine. I have six dogs and know each one's personality. Some breeders on here track all their babies and know their names. I am telling you, Jeff has a true love for these dogs, and you would see that if you visited his home. Everyone gets so hung up on the price of this one supposedly $10,000 or $25,000 dog - does he produce and sell these regularly? I don't really think so. I will have to revisit the site to see if it is really there, and how long he has had it. I purchased my two for a VERY reasonable $750/ea. I find his prices similar to less than most. I am afraid that jealousy is the key here. I wish I could afford to spend $10,000 per year just to GIVE yorkies away (at below cost to me) as some of you seem to do. __________________ Laura--loving mom of Robyn, Dexter, Sandy, Mattie, Sammy, Jake & Mollie http://www.yorkietalk.com/gallery/sh...00&ppuser=1851

03-15-2006, 08:31 AM	#21
onelovelylynn My Darling Divas Donating Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: magnolia, Texas Posts: 1,220	livingdustmops...You hit the nail on the head..... I cant understand why anyone would attack another just for airing there opinion.. We are all yorkie lovers here, or else why would we be here.. Everyone has an opinion.!!! And just because someone else does not like that opinion does not mean that they should attack the other. We can all give our advise and our opinion, but noone has to take that advise or opinion. This is a yorkie talk forum, NOT a Im better than you forum. Lets all just chill out, take a deep breath and think about what we are saying before we type. PLEASE !!!! and thanks for letting me air my opinion....

03-15-2006, 08:44 AM	#22
Laura Donating YT 1000 Club Member Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Wylie TX Posts: 1,577	These are Zowie & Bronx from the website (over 2 years ago), of course, I still think they are adorable. I could see their little faces in the babies when they were little as well. To some, each yorkie has a face of their own. They do not 'all look alike.' Attached Thumbnails __________________ Laura--loving mom of Robyn, Dexter, Sandy, Mattie, Sammy, Jake & Mollie http://www.yorkietalk.com/gallery/sh...00&ppuser=1851

03-15-2006, 08:31 PM	#23
Tashasmom YT 500 Club Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Indiana Posts: 950	livingdustmops..I'm soo sorry your baby went through what he did. I think it is wonderful what you are doing. I too have done alot of rescue..it's rewarding and heartbreaking. Unless people experience it first hand they have no idea the pain and heartbreak you see by looking into an abused animals eyes. It's something you never get over and never get used to. Beautiful you betcha nothing is more appealing than seeing a pet show it's first sparkle in a set of eyes that have known pain for so long. I had to fight to keep from crying when I read your post cause i like you know what its like to have a rescue pet. It's an emotinal roller coaster..some good some very upsetting. I can't tell you enough what a wonderful person I think you are for doing what you do. I'm not sure if you get told this enough..but thank you. __________________ LOVE MEANS MORE THAN JUST HUGS & KISSES!!

03-15-2006, 07:50 AM	#16
Storm Senior Yorkie Talker Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Jacksonville, Florida Posts: 137	Welcome! I'm pretty new here too. From what I can tell, this guy is an absolute snake. Take the advice given above from all the experienced Yorkie moms. Also, trust your instincts. It's obvious that you are feeling uncomfortable about the whole thing.

03-15-2006, 08:19 AM	#19
JeanieK Donating YT 12K Club Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Council Bluffs Iowa Posts: 12,552	When you buy from a breeder/broker that has that many dogs, how do you even know you are getting the same dog that you saw on the website. If he has that many dogs, he cannot possibly know anything about the individual pups. And he does not stand behind them if they develop health problems. There are certain to be people who have ended uip with nice healthy dogs. Odds are there are more good ones then bad ones. But it's a gamble, and I wouldn't buy from anyone who did not personally know the puppy and it's parents. He can tell you anything he wants about the dog, but I assure you he can't possibly know anything about it. There are a lot of yorkies out there. There are people on this forum that have puppies.

03-16-2006, 09:08 PM	#25
Tashasmom YT 500 Club Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Indiana Posts: 950	It's hard..I think sometimes we all lose sight of whats really important. It's easy to do in this day and age. It takes all of us to help everyone and everything. Some help people some help animals and some help themselves lol..but I guess it takes us all to make this world go round. __________________ LOVE MEANS MORE THAN JUST HUGS & KISSES!!

03-16-2006, 09:23 PM	#26
megan_kat22 I love my boys! Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Houston Posts: 1,913	livingdustmops and tashasmom, i just want to tell you great job for being involved with rescues. when i have the chance, i want to help as many as i can. we've already rescued one and i love him to death. without rescue organizations my baby wouldn't be here. i do not know about this breeder, but before you buy, just do all your research and go with your instincts. if you have bad feelings about your conversations with him there are many other breeders out there, and from what i have heard, he has plenty of business anyway. __________________ -Megan, Tucker & Tripp "My little dogs- heartbeats at my feet" www.dropshots.com/megan_kat22

03-16-2006, 09:55 PM	#28
piscesbaby YorkieTalk Newbie! Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: maryland Posts: 4	News!!! Well, yorkie lovers..thank you all for you comments again. I can say now that I have decided on what to do. I was looking through the message boards here and fell in love with the cutest little angel. I'm sure some of you have seen her in the for sale forum. Well, her family in New York have proven to be great people. My husband has been talking to them and everything has been extremely pleasant. I can honestly say that as far as Jeff Dane goes. I'm pretty sure that as Laura said...those that are happy generally never say anything. I just thought about it a lot and said that if I'm going to pay that much money, my experience better be good from beginning to end. I just feel like money talks with him and I really don't like to do business with that kind of person. I'm not saying he's a bad person, I just rather deal with a nicer person.

03-16-2006, 09:58 PM	#29
megan_kat22 I love my boys! Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Houston Posts: 1,913	I'm glad you have found your baby! And I'm glad you went with your instincts so that this experience is as great as possible for you! __________________ -Megan, Tucker & Tripp "My little dogs- heartbeats at my feet" www.dropshots.com/megan_kat22

03-16-2006, 10:14 PM	#30
Baby Blessing Our Blessings R Many Donating Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: In the shelter of God's Loving Care. Posts: 3,095 Blog Entries: 1	[QUOTE=piscesbaby] I was looking through the message boards here and fell in love with the cutest little angel. Hi, Ahhhhhhhhh sounds like you have found your little yorkie, I wish you the best. What are you going to name it, are you getting female or male. This is such a great site and know you will find it so helpful. Look forward to seeing picture of your little one. We had a very pleasant communication with the breeder that we got Baby Blessing from and it just made the transaction much better which is as it should be. Getting a yorkie is a forever friend to the family and it should be sheer joy all the way around. Have fun with your new baby. Patti, Jack and ~~Baby Blessing~~