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Am I wrong for being piss!? :mad: My puppy is now 7 months and His, excuse me, balls dropped right except only one did and i thought maybe he was stressed and he retained one back but its been a while and theres only one. I went to the vet and the Dr. told me that she couldn't find the other one. I'm so mad i bought him with open registration and everything. WAs my breeder a bad breeder? I called her and told her about my Kiroshi. She said i was the first person to ever call her about something like that and that as far as she knows no other dogs in kiroshi's blood line had the either. She suggested that i have the dr. find the other one and stretch out the cord. She said she's had it done before. I was appalled at hearing this, i called and asked the Dr. and she said that it's never been done to dogs only children. I bought kiroshi for $1200 . She had the nerve to say "didn't i sell him to you as a pet anyways?" My gosh this woman! I was just so angry? He wasn't sold as just a pet and he should've been. I love my little one though don't get me wrong. I'm just piss that i paid more for him than i should've. :mad: |
I'm confused to why you're pissed. A non-descending testicle happens sometimes. If your dogs vet was unable to find it with an exam, couldn't an x-ray been taken. I do understand that you are upset, but being pissed isn't going to solve anything, and only make matters worth. Also, if he was sold to you as just a pet, when they neuter him it should take care of thing's. I hope this help's, please calm down. |
I understand your frustration but $1200 is not a lot for a yorkie. I think the average is $1500. Did you express to the breeder that you were planning on showing him? Are you breeding him or were you planning to get him neutered? I would be concerned as well, but I don't think the breeder can foresee something like this. I'm sorry you have to deal with this, but if he's just a family pet, does it really matter if he has both testicles? |
That's the thing, I didn't buy him as a pet and breeding him is a risk and not something i can do anymore. the dr. said that it can be hereditary, so breeding him now is not an option. when i talk to the breeder she didn't even want to reply to my questions about the sire's dad and brother's, she kept going off the topic about her busy days with the dogs and wrk. i was trying to ask her more about the other dogs and she kept wanting to tell me bout her days wrking in another state. I made it very clear to her that i was looking to breed him and the reason she gave him to me for $1200 is because supposedly he was to be bigger than the others. |
Ok, here's the thing...I read this thread outloud to my husband just because. His first comment / question striked interest in me. Can a male sire a female with only one testicle?? (Not sure if I am using the proper wording as I am NOT a breeder) You said you purchased this male as pet quality. Was it in agreement w/ you and the breeder that you were NOT going to use him as a stud or is this what your intentions were? Or...Are you upset wondering if this is a health issue? Or...did you purchase him w/ an open registration maybe not wanting to use him as a stud NOW but maybe in the future?? If you only want him as a pet and having only one testicle does NOT cause any health issues and most likely you were going to neuter anyway what is the concern? I am not trying to make this sound rude, please don't take it this way. I find your thread interesting and am just trying to figure it all out. Thanks. |
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We posted at the same time so some of my questions were answered. Thank you. ;) |
I don't think your breeder could have known ahead of time that only one of his testicles would drop. |
IMO 7 months is still young.....I would give him until at least a year before even being concerned about this. That second testicle could very well appear and the breeder has no way of knowing about this or preventing it so you really cannot rightfully be angry wiht her imo. Shyyorkies, a breeder member here just had a male that she was thinking of selling but his tesiticle finally descened and she is keeping him as a stud now. I would PM her for an exampke and advice. Good luck with your precious boy. |
I am sorry but give it some time...the other may still drop...I have heard of it taking months...but again if he is a pet it really is not a problem and your price was not extremem by any means- hope you are feeling better about this- |
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Stuff like this happens occassionally. There is no way to know for sure if it's gonna happen or not. Personally, I think you are over reacting. If that's the only health issue with your dog, be grateful and enjoy him. |
Exuse me..but if she has NEVER had a male with undesending testicles in her blood line,why has she had the cord streching done before? Obviously because the male needed it right? She contradicted her self:rolleyes: |
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I would give it a little longer also. However, your vet is saying he can't even "find" the other testicle? Give it another couple of months. If it doesn't drop, yes, it is a health issue from what I understand and surgery is needed (not positive, but pretty sure). Was he sold to you with the intention of you never breeding him or was that just left as an open decision for you to make in the future? Because if you were not to breed him, this really shouldn't be an issue and would/should require neutering. If you aren't going to breed him, it is better for him and you if he gets neutered. I know Yorkies can go for more than you paid or less than you paid, but no matter what, it is still a lot of money. You have not been ripped off unless you were intending to breed and the breeder knew of it and there was some agreement (or a non-breeding agreement was omitted). |
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I am not an expert but I do know that it is hereditary(sp) and if you plan to breed he could father babies but his offspring could be affected. The longer the testicle is in the abdomen the more likely it is to be sterile even if it drops. That tissue is very sensitive to heat and inside the body is much warmer than it would be in it's proper place. Besides these issues there is a higher risk of testicular cancer when this happens and unfortunately it is usually better to neuter in these cases. Testicles usually drop by eight weeks and it can take a little longer in the toy breeds but seven months is a long time. Sorry you are in this situation and sorry the news isn't a little more positive. You can also do a search for undescended testicles and get more information. Good luck! :D |
You need to check your contract and see if hereditary defects are covered. this is passed down and may skip many generations. I also know of someone that has this in her lines but if you ask her, it's the first time she's heard of it. $1200 is a lot for a male in my part of the country and the least she could do is to refund you the part for the neuter. You MUST have it done now since the undescended testicle will become cancerous. She had the stretching done before...that means that she knows it's in her lines and that male should not have been bred again. Best of luck. |
Here is my 2 cents!! I bought Petey for breeding. When I brought him to the vet (the very next day) my vet said his testicles were not dropped.. I called the breeder and told her that the health Certificate said they were dropped. She said that I should give it a few more months and if they didn't drop I could exchange him.. Well they did drop about 2-3 weeks later, But let me say this Petey is very small and even now I sometimes I don't find them on the first Feel (LOL, :D I don't go around feeling them, but make sure I know where they are when I trim his hair) Both my boys that I sold had theirs dropped by 8 weeks! I think if you were planning on breeding him, the vet should have been looking a long time ago, not at 7 months. Sorry, and $1200 is a lot for a male here too!! |
I took my new 8-week old pup to the vet for a well-puppy check up, and she said she was happy to see that both of his testicles were descended. So - I assumed that more often than not - they are down at a young age. If this is true - isn't this something you could check before you purchase a male puppy....assuming that your puppy is 8 to 10 weeks old before you get it??? Carol Jean |
I totally undestand were you are coming from. I made my mistake and purchased my girl from a broker and I myself had problems and when i confronted her she only gave rediculous responses to my questions and worries. :thumbdown |
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Thank you. I will give him till the age of a year and if it doesn't drop than i'll have to neuter him. |
Did you intended to breed him ? |
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When you first got this Yorkie wwhat kind of guarentee did he come with in the contact? Was he ever check by your vet before he was 7 mos old? |
did you buy the dog just to breed it? on e of my dogs ears doesnt stand up and i paid good money but i dont care i love her |
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I've contacted the breeder and she refuses to admit that her dogs have a genetic defect. she kept saying that she's had four generations of dogs and none of them has ever had this problem, but she also mentions the puppy that she had the cords stretched out because of this problem. she kept saying that the contract only covers problems that are a health risk. This does cause a health risk, and i told her that if she were really a responsible breeder she would accept that her dogs carry a defect in thier genes and pay me the difference. OH gosh! she made me so mad! I bought him w/open registration and made it very clear that He was for breeding, she kept trying to get off the phone. what should i do because it looks like she isn't going to do anything bout it. I found the wrong breeder, she's just like a puppy mill, all she cares bout is money, and i regret doing business with her. I love my kiroshi and i'm glad i have him, but this breeder isn't responsible and she told me that she has about 4-5 litters a year, i think thats is over doing her pets. |
If you are looking to breed your Yorkie, him having only one testes isn't going to stop him from breeding. Both of my babies father only have one testes and my male has both of his. Although yes, it can be genetic, there is no reason why you still wouldn't be able to breed him. Please don't be so upset. Having one testes is not a health concern as it happens to adults, children and pets all the time. |
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