Yay! I found me!
 

Figured out my account!

We brought Little Lord Nelson home today courtesy Wendy White of WENWYTES yorkies.

Teddy, who is 9 years old, is terrified of this 12 week old puppy and I am really hoping things get better with time.

It's distressing to see my best boy upset and scared.

I can't seem to upload any pics 😕

Did you try resizing the pictures. They have to be really small to upload.

Yayyy on finding yourself. Pictures have to be 200KB or under to post on YT.



Teddy will come around, he's terrorized because puppies don't smell like a dog. They are bouncing balls with sharp teeth to Teddy. It could take up to 2 months before Teddy will play with the baby. Make sure Teddy has a safe place where puppy can't get him. My now passed girls would stay on high grounds (the sofa) when I would bring home a new baby. They will become BFF.



Make sure Teddy is the first for every thing, the first to be greeted when you come home, the first to get a treat, the first to get his food bowl, etc.


Never leave the two together unsupervised.



Teddy will be just fine, he will come around in his own time.

Thank you! I will try to get some pics added soon :)

Thank you. Teddy has seperation anxiety and a fear/avoidant personality.

I'm trying to do very gentle exposure therapy with him. I did not, for one minute, think there would be an issue because he is the most friendly, confident dog when we're out meeting/greeting other dogs. But, with this puppy, he won't give it eye contact, won't engage and barks with whale eye at the side of his head from a distance.

It's not even been 24 hours and I know it's a process.....

Teddy has been the only furbutt in his domain, now there's this furry bouncing ball of hair in his domain. As I have said, puppies do not smell like a dog, so Teddy doesn't know what it is. His actions / behavior is normal when you bring home a new baby. Teddy being friendly outdoors with other dogs is different from having some strange thing living in his house. He needs time to adjust to the new kid, it is not going to happen over night. He will interact with the puppy in his time, which could take up to two months. Don't force the puppy on Teddy, don't force a friendship. All you describe in Teddys behavior is normal when a new baby enters an only furbutts life / home. You will see, they will be BFF. I forgot to ask in my first reply, is Teddy neutered.

Thank you so much! No, Teddy isn't neutered.

Here he is! Little Lord Nelson!
 

Hope this works!

Pictures are perfect. Little Lord Nelson is just beautiful.

Male dogs should be neutered for the reasons listed below unless you intend to use your dog for mating. It is not wise to have two intact males due to aggression towards each other, there could be many fights over who will be the dominant one. I have read as an intact male gets older they lose some of that aggression. To say Teddy at 9 years old will not be aggressive, I cannot vouch for that. I suggest neutering Nelson when he's 6 months old, but check with your vet for the proper age. Nelson being intact WILL BE the aggressor.



Benefits of dog neutering

Eliminating the risk of testicular cancer
Reducing, aggression, marking and humping
Calmer behavior due to decreased testosterone levels

When To Have Your Dog Neutered
dogs can be neutered at any time after 8 weeks of age, veterinarians recommend waiting until at least 6 months old.

No one loves the idea of having their fur baby undergo surgery, but as dog parents we have to do what’s best for our pets.


Since Teddy has anxiety issues, as Nelson gets older and is still intact, he will sense this and "could" instigate fights.

Thanks! I'm not going to neuter them, unless absolutely necessary as per breeder advice, but I appreciate the advice! It is under consideration!

From internet: Yes, 2 intact male dogs can live together when they have a responsible owner. However, depending on each of their personalities, they may or may not live in harmony together.02 Experts recommend adopting a dog of the opposite sex, but it is up to the owner to really get to know their dogs and be ready to recognize any signs of tension between them.2 Neutered dogs are less confident and more anxious than intact dogs.

This last part would be a worry for either one of them! I already have this issue with Teddy and don't want this for 2 of them.

I just wanted you to be aware.
At Teddys age I wouldn't neuter him unless it was a medical necessity. Self education on dogs in general is always best.

Thanks. I listen to all advice because I have never had 2 dogs before so never had 2 males before so I really do appreciate the advice. I was told in very stern terms to not neuter them unless necessary.

However, I will keep my EYES and MIND open in the event things evolve towards a way which means this needs reconsidered!

Thanks, again xxxxxxxxxxxxx

Neutered dogs are absolutely not more anxious and less confident that is a complete myth. Where did you hear that from? One of the biggest reasons to neuter other then just its healthier and they live longer is because it is almost cruel to have in intact male that can smell a female in heat and not be able to mate. They can smell far farther than we can and they not only are more likely to run away because of it they are also more likely to do stupid things trying to get away and get hurt. I am not really sure why your breeder would tell you absolutely not to. There was even a more recent study released from the UK again confirming neutered males live longer than intact males.

Thanks - we'll see how it goes!

I have had only female dogs, I had a pack of 3, all 3 years apart, that was was best time of my life. I never watched TV, my dogs were more entertaining than anything on the TV.

Teddys reaction to new puppy is the same reaction each of my girls had when I bought home a new puppy. They stayed away from her, every time one would get off the sofa wild child puppy would be hanging off the older ones tail or the hair on its hind legs.
The 3rd puppy I bought home now I had two 3 and 6 years old staying away from bouncy ball of hair. It took 2 months before either of the older ones would stay on the floor with her. In the end, the older ones were the momma, they spoiled the puppy rotten, if they were playing with a toy and the baby wanted it, they let her have it.
All 3 were BFF. The baby, they made a Diva outta her.
I now have an adopted boy now, a gift to me from my vet. He was a surrender due to financial reasons, not an abused dog, and he came to me very spoiled.

I have all his medical papers from prev. owner. He was nurtured at 6 mos old. He squats when he makes a pee-pee, he has never marked in the house and I have him almost 10 years. I had to re-educate myself now on male dogs. YT was a great help with this.
Having 2 dogs takes time to get use to, but you will get into the swing of things in a short time, having a yorkie is like potato chips, ya can't have just one ;)
Yes, listen to advise and suggestions, but all decisions will be solely yours. We put it out there for not only you, but for others that will that post.

Thanks. It helps to know what others have experienced and also helps to think there is a light at the end of the tunnel!

Two months sounds like a long time but it seems that patience has been a reward with your dogs and I will definitely think about this when I become disheartened. I am very protective of Teddy but I made this commitment so I need to be ready for some upheaval, new experiences (good and bad) and lead my dogs.

Teddy has made some improvement today. He went through the kitchen, where we're keeping the puppy, to come see if I had anything from dinner to offer him..lol

He had a not so great interaction with puppy today so I'm surprised he was able to overcome this enough for a treat.

He likes to watch from a distance today, instead of avoid eye contact altogether, but at night he seems to want to be on his own and away from the puppy even if it's just eyesight.

It's only been 48 hours so I know we have more time we have to let pass.

If you think it will help, I'll update to help others, if possible. As you say, it's not just about my particular situation. Maybe this post will help others?

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I just wanted to clarify some of the info especially for other readers. Some of the most confident dogs I have worked with have been neutered and they were from my training place and have been in movies, commercials and so on and Joey is extremely confident as well and he was neutered at 6 months. Ollie has issues but it is from his breeder not because he was neutered.

I don't know who gave you those "stern terms"; but, I would ask that person if they plan to pay your vet bills if/when you have a dog fight and/or if/when one or both of them suffer from cancer, peri anal hernias or other health issues due to not being neutered.

I simply can't understand why anyone would believe ONE person's "stern terms" when there is clear scientifically proven risks to leaving dogs intact. How about asking that person for scientific proof of such advice and then compare THAT to scientific proof of the ill effects.

Thanks, I hear what is being said and appreciate there are some strong views and thoughts which are based on various experiences etc.

As for me, I'm not going to cite research or explain my view etc as I am not interested in validation of opinions/facts or a debate regarding neuter pros/cons.

Any suggestions beyond neutering my 12 week old puppy would be great, thanks. If not, fair enough!

Evey thing is in baby steps when bringing home a new puppy. Today was a break through, baby steps. As each day goes by Teddy sees "this thing is here to stay", Teddy determines when he's ready to interact. Two months for my girls was a long time, but this new puppy was a WILD CHILD zooming faster than a speeding bullet, and always playfully nippy them when they got off the sofa. When I had one she was 3 years old and bought the 2nd one home, it took the 3 yo a month to interact with the new kid, but that one was not as wild as the 3rd baby lol.
If you have time to update yours and Teddys acceptance with Little Lord Nelson would be terrific, everyone benefits from posts like yours, especially ppl thinking about getting a 2nd dog.

Very conflicting posts. So NOW you have made yourself clear (I guess) in this last post. You obviously don't want to neuter your dogs. Has nothing to do with anything but what you have decided.

As for your comment about my various experiences. I have NOT had lengthy experiences with intact dogs. The ones who came to me intact were neutered as per the results of scientific studies that you are clearly not interested in. That's fine. Your dogs, your choice.

I am not/nor was I, debating you. I merely responded to your post. I won't be commenting further and would not have just now if you had not completely changed your thoughts about being "open" to suggestions.

Good luck with your new adorable puppy. I can't give you any advice about intact male dogs and behaviors, etc. because I feel very strongly that you are treading in dangerous territory in the future. Let me close by saying that "as things evolve" might be a disaster and too late to fix/avoid. OK...I am done!

As I said, I appreciate there are strong views but they are not a priority for me at this stage.

If we could focus on the issue to hand, that would be great.

Happy to discuss pros/cons of neutering on another thread.

The issue at hand is BEHAVIOR and you asked for opinions. You asked about your dogs getting along and what to do. People gave you advice but you don't want that unless it is advice that you approve of?????? If you want to filter responses, perhaps you should say in your original post....don't advise this, or don't advise that.................. :rolleyes:

Looks like you asked for advice here and now you don't want it? Perhaps you might just ask for this thread to be closed and then you can start a new one with wording saying what you think is fair game for us to suggest? People here are generally well meaning when they give advice.

I asked advice about how to integrate a puppy and an adult dog.

THANKS once again!

How are the boys doing? I hope they are buddies now!

Oh my ... I have fostered and worked with rescues for decades ... introducing a male puppy to an un altered boy ... is dangerous - it should be ok until the little one gets the first hormones- starting at 16 weeks to 8 months- then ... there is a potential to real injury and fights, marking and unwanted behavior ... un-altered males that live together in relative peace must have different personality with one being very submissive and one being the leader - and you will have to be willing to support those roles ( feeding one first ... always giving the dominant animal more/first dibs on cuddles ... ). I have taken in many, many boys from multi dog households that were not altered in time and surrendered due to vicious fights and lasting aggression - not usually in the puppy stage but when they are about the one year mark ...the problem is that many of these unwanted behaviors - especially the marking doesn't go away one it appears and is allowed to continue for months .. re-homing a male that marks is difficult ...and un -altered yorkies will end up in puppy mills if they ever escape or they get attacked by larger dogs ... two intact males rarely work out - your breeder has very odd advice for you and I would suggest to consult some vets, animal trainers for more info ...the reason we are voicing strong opinions here is because we are concerned ... I have rehabbed a baby one that was mauled by his "brother" - lost an eye , was traumatized for life .. owner claimed the they got along so well for months that they had just left them for a few minutes to go to the store- there had been mild growling before but no fights ... both small breed unaltered males ... please be careful ...

On behalf of the OP, she is looking for suggestions, advise on introducing her older yorkie who has been the only dog to the new puppy, also this is the first time she has ever had 2 dogs, she is also looking for some positive input on owning 2 yorkies.



Yes, we are passionate about unaltered males (and unspayed females) advise on that is helpful but, no one has offered ideas, suggestions, advise on her original thread.


Can we do that please, can we help her with her older baby accepting the new kid.



Give YOUR experience and how you handled introducing a new baby with your older one.



There are multi members with multi yorkies on this board, lets pitch in and offer some suggestions to a new mom that is now owner of 2 yorkies.