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10-14-2019, 08:33 AM | #1 |
Yorkie Yakker Join Date: Jan 2017 Location: Portland,Oregon.USA
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| No wag I bought a "parti-Yorkie" Boy he sure looks different from my other one. The thing I am upset about is, this well thought of breeder cut my poor dogs tail so short we can't even tell if he is happy. No wags. I'd love to punch her in the face actually. Anyways, he arrived dead asleep ( we couldn't wake him up but he was breathing so we just figured he was tired from the 10 hour car trip) We got him home what a poor little puppy, no one could get near him, his ears were so big that the moleskin she shoved in was hanging down. I swear when I got Max (the other yorkie) he was a little shy in the beginning, but this poor guy was truly terrified of us. Max let us wash him touch his feet, pet and pick him up. But not our new one. I'm kind of embarrassed to say this but I read that gal I bought him from the riot act. She wouldn"t help me and take him back, but after a week of trying to get her to do something my husband asked me that even though he is emotionally damaged, its not his fault and we decided to try to make a difference in his life and perk him up a bit. I never, ever met a sad dog before I met Mickey. He didn't have even a little sparkle, his eyes were just dead and he didn't even have a normal 10 week old puppy interest in anyone or We read everything that we could get our hands on, this is how I found this site. Mickey came to us at 10 weeks, he is now almost a year. We love him in spite of and for himself. Do you think that there could ever be a time that we can pick him up and have him like it? When Jeff picks him up he doesn't struggle to get away but turns his head as far as it can go the other way and won't respond until we put him down. He needs to have his teeth cleaned and be neutered. Will he hate me forever? Do you think I have a ethical responsibility to let others know about Mickey'a first mom? Thanks Last edited by lynnez; 10-14-2019 at 08:35 AM. |
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10-14-2019, 09:41 AM | #2 |
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| Poor poor puppy. The deed is done, you have the dog but I need to say this. It is advised that a puppy stays with the mom and litter mates until they are 13 weeks old. In this time the mom teaches her puppies many things and the puppies play a big role in teaching each other bite inhibition. Staying with mom and litter mates builds their confidence. Your Mickey was taken away from the mom to soon. In my opinion you did the right thing in keeping him and loving him for who he is. When you got him home did you take him to the vet and tell the vet how he was acting, if you did, what did your vet say. I ask this because you say he was emotionally damaged. By a year old if he still does not like to be picked up he is not going to change. Have you thought about seeing a dog behaviorist, they may have a method to change this lil guy. He needs to be neutered and have his teeth cleaned I would not worry about Mickey hating you, these are medical and health issues that have to be dealt with. With my 5 yorkies 4 that are now passed, they hated the vet not me lol. Does Mickey and Max get along well with each other, does Mickey play with Max. I would definitely tell others of my experience with this breeder, a kinda buyer beware.
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10-14-2019, 10:30 AM | #3 |
Yorkie Yakker Join Date: Jan 2017 Location: Portland,Oregon.USA
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| It seemed like he had little or no people in his life, Almost like she locked his mom and all the puppies in a room and closed the door. And I absolutely did take him to the vet 2 days later. He got his chip and a bunch of shots and then a while later he had to have some more. The vet and staff felt very bad and didn't really have very many suggestions. I have another Yorkie who just turned 3 AND a really old pug that has the patience of job. How do I find a dog behaviorist? |
10-14-2019, 11:03 AM | #4 |
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| I read your past thread where your vet tells you Our vet said that under socialized is a understatement. He was either abused or totally ignored at the critical time he was with the breeder. Googledog behaviorist and type in your zip code, you should be able to find one near you, you can also call your vet and ask them if they can recommend one. Now you do not want obedience training you want a dog behaviorist there is a big difference between the two. At a year old there is still a chance of turning this dog around with proper and diligent training.
__________________ Joan, mom to Cody RIP Matese Schnae Kajon Kia forever in my A House Is Not A Home Without A Dog |
10-14-2019, 12:28 PM | #5 |
Yorkie mom of 4 Donating YT Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: LaPlata, Md
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| Sadly a bad breeder makes a huge difference. My Ollie who is my youngest came from a not so great breeder and he was very very timid and shy. He really is not fond of leaving the house and out going like my others. I have put him in soooo many classes trying to get him exposure but it only helps a little. Right now at a bit over a year and a half I am trying to build his confidence by teaching him tricks and I have found he is really good at agility so we are doing that and after a class he walks around with his head held high acting like he is big stuff. Honestly training will help even just sit, stay and so on. Look for something he likes doing and go with it. It could take awhile but it really might help. It took a while for Ollie and he is still making strides everyday. Just never give up.
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10-14-2019, 05:31 PM | #6 |
Yorkie Yakker Join Date: Jan 2017 Location: Portland,Oregon.USA
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| Thank-you very much. Could you tell me the difference in a trainer and a behaviorist? |
10-14-2019, 05:33 PM | #7 |
Yorkie Yakker Join Date: Jan 2017 Location: Portland,Oregon.USA
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| P.S. Your Rip picture is lovely of your dog. I'm very sorry for your loss. |
10-14-2019, 10:25 PM | #8 |
Yorkie Talker Join Date: Jun 2015 Location: New Zealand
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| We got a little Silky from a back yard breeder, after a three hour trip down to see her we were offered a 6 week old puppy. We thought she was a registered breeder, I asked if I could leave her with you for another month and the answer was "someone else will take her if you don't take her now. She was kept in a barn and was most likely not socialised. She growled and tried to bite when being handled. It took a lot of patience and quiet handling and the help of my other one year old Silkie to bring her around, she turned into the most delightful loveable dog we have ever had. My heart broke when we lost her at 13. Keep persevering and hopefully you will get there in the end. |
10-15-2019, 03:19 AM | #9 | |
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Dog Trainer: When you're thinking about a “dog trainer,” think of a teacher or coach. A dog trainer will help teach your dog new skills, such as sit, stay, come, or how to walk on a leash without dragging you down the street. Dog Behaviorist: When you think about a “dog behaviorist,” think about a therapist. The behaviorist will help you solve behavioral issues like fear, aggression, out-of-control barking, destructive chewing, biting, and separation anxiety. The behaviorist will help you modify or totally change behaviors. After conducting a thorough interview and analyzing your dog, the behaviorist will design a plan based on that analysis. When searching for a dog behaviorist you may want to look for someone who is certified. Certification shows you that your professional has educational training, experience in the field, and has passed a comprehensive competency exam. Looking for a behaviorist is like trying to find a good tutor for your human kids. If you find a behaviorist who came highly recommended and isn’t certified, that shouldn’t stop you from trying him/her. There are no legal regulations for behaviorists, so in your search, you are very likely to meet many self-taught candidates. It’s not uncommon to have behaviorist who is self-taught. Other Tips: Ask for referrals from your veterinarian, groomer, local pet store, family, or friends OR go through a Certifying Agency. An agency will often have a directory of professionals you can search through Ask your potential behaviorist for references. Ask your potential behaviorist how long they’ve been training dogs and if they have any formal education/certifications. See if they are a member of any professional trainer or behaviorist associations. Find out what type of services the person offers. Ask what type of equipment they use during training. Make sure they use positive and humane methods that you are comfortable with. Make sure you can be present during training sessions. Do they offer any guarantees? The answer to this one will probably be no. After all, you are your fur baby’s caretaker and will be the one who must practice any methods that you’ve been taught. Your professional is limited to the time he/she spends with you and your dog. So, in the end, it will be your follow-through for success. You must be consistent and diligent with using the tools the behaviorist taught you. Before You Start with a Behaviorist It’s always a good idea to get your dog checked out by your vet to make sure there are no underlying medical issues sparking the behavioral problem!
__________________ Joan, mom to Cody RIP Matese Schnae Kajon Kia forever in my A House Is Not A Home Without A Dog | |
10-15-2019, 03:20 AM | #10 |
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| Thank you
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10-15-2019, 05:25 AM | #11 |
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| so sorry you and Mickey are having such a hard time. Hopefully, you can get some help for him and he can start enjoying life. |
10-15-2019, 09:26 AM | #12 | |
Yorkie mom of 4 Donating YT Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: LaPlata, Md
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__________________ Taylor My babies Joey, Penny ,Ollie & Dixie Callie Mae, you will forever be in my heart! | |
10-15-2019, 09:41 AM | #13 |
Donating YT 3000 Club Member Join Date: Feb 2014 Location: E.Stroudsburg, Pa.
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| I personally would not waste my time and money on a trainer that trains basically for common commands, this OP's dog needs professional help. IMPO a behaviorist, a one on one is best suited for this poor pups issues.
__________________ Joan, mom to Cody RIP Matese Schnae Kajon Kia forever in my A House Is Not A Home Without A Dog |
10-15-2019, 09:55 AM | #14 |
YT Addict Join Date: Feb 2017 Location: Concord
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| On the tail: we keep Fabian in a puppy cut, but kept his tail hair long as a nod to his show dog parents and brother. (All with other human parents.) Like your dog, Fabian's tail was docked before we found about about him. The long hair on his tail swishes like crazy when he's happy. |
10-15-2019, 10:14 AM | #15 |
Yorkie mom of 4 Donating YT Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: LaPlata, Md
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| That’s not the only thing trainers train for at least not real non pet store trainers. The local owned training place I go to does regular obedience, tricks, agility, dog aggression as well as many other things. They really break it down and work with what your dog needs. Like I have said Ollie is very very timid and they work very hard to work with his issues and work the classes he takes around him. Building confidence in a timid dog is extremely helpful and important and you do that by training. Trainers are professionals too.
__________________ Taylor My babies Joey, Penny ,Ollie & Dixie Callie Mae, you will forever be in my heart! |
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