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coco2013 06-22-2017 10:00 AM
Shampoo for allergies???
 
I could use a little help. Coco is on apoquel due to grass allergies. She has really dry skin. For the past 4 months we have noticed that she really stinks just a few days after bathing. I have used Neem shampoo in the past and it was working great, but not any more. She still itches and she stinks just a few days after bathing. Even after coming home from the groomer. Well, after much frustration, I took her to the vet about the continual itching and he recommended Sebazole. We did that for a while for the itching but the stink is still going on. I read an article about a shampoo called Moosh. Does any one have thouhts/experience about this shampoo??? Also, what about the Yirkie Splash and Shine???? Keep in mind her allergies.

We are both crazy for help!!!
Than you so much

pstinard 06-22-2017 10:19 AM
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Originally Posted by coco2013 (Post 4732042)
I could use a little help. Coco is on apoquel due to grass allergies. She has really dry skin. For the past 4 months we have noticed that she really stinks just a few days after bathing. I have used Neem shampoo in the past and it was working great, but not any more. She still itches and she stinks just a few days after bathing. Even after coming home from the groomer. Well, after much frustration, I took her to the vet about the continual itching and he recommended Sebazole. We did that for a while for the itching but the stink is still going on. I read an article about a shampoo called Moosh. Does any one have thouhts/experience about this shampoo??? Also, what about the Yirkie Splash and Shine???? Keep in mind her allergies.

We are both crazy for help!!!
Than you so much
Sebazole is a medicated shampoo for the treatment of skin infections due to bacteria, yeast, or fungi. See: https://www.virbac.com.au/home/dog-c...e-shampoo.html

I fear that the stink on your dog's skin won't go away until the underlying condition is treated. If you are going to stop the Sebazole, you should let your veterinarian know what is going on, since that might be part of your dog's medical treatment.

Lovetodream88 06-22-2017 01:14 PM
You need to find out what is causing the stink and treat that not just cover it up. I use hylyt shampoo and conditioner on my girl with allergies.

coco2013 06-22-2017 01:25 PM
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Originally Posted by pstinard (Post 4732044)
Sebazole is a medicated shampoo for the treatment of skin infections due to bacteria, yeast, or fungi. See: https://www.virbac.com.au/home/dog-c...e-shampoo.html

I fear that the stink on your dog's skin won't go away until the underlying condition is treated. If you are going to stop the Sebazole, you should let your veterinarian know what is going on, since that might be part of your dog's medical treatment.
Thank you for your thoughts. The Sebazole was actually just his recommendation. He said that in his opinion it was one of the best medicated shampoos for dogs with itchy/dry skin. I originally bought Natures Specialties Neem shampoo for her about 4 years ago that was suggested by my groomer. This was after we had allergy testing done by the vet. Coco was adopted by us when she was three years old and immediately we discovered she had some itching problems which we quickly took her to the vet to get to the bottom of it. The vet put her on Apoquel. She has been on this for 4 years now but the stinky body has just developed within the last several months. She is normally given a bath every 7-10 days and groomed every 5 weeks because we keep her short.

This is something I read:
Skin conditions such as dry, irritated skin (sometimes due to allergies) can trigger the body to produce more oil than normal, and therefore without a few extra baths with a quality product that is both moisturizing and protecting, an odor can begin to build up.

Hopefully, we can get it figured out.

coco2013 06-22-2017 01:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Lovetodream88 (Post 4732056)
You need to find out what is causing the stink and treat that not just cover it up. I use hylyt shampoo and conditioner on my girl with allergies.
Absolutely agree with you. I wondered if maybe due to using the medicated shampoo so much that maybe I need a good moisturizing conditioner or maybe some type of spritz for the in between bath times. Maybe this is a medical condition that has just popped up on us.

Thank you

matese 06-22-2017 01:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Lovetodream88 (Post 4732056)
You need to find out what is causing the stink and treat that not just cover it up. I use hylyt shampoo and conditioner on my girl with allergies.
I also use HyLyt shampoo and conditioner, recommended by my vet, it's for allergies.

matese 06-22-2017 01:30 PM
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Originally Posted by matese (Post 4732060)
I also use HyLyt shampoo and conditioner, recommended by my vet, it's for allergies.
HyLyt also has a "bath spray" for in between baths.

coco2013 06-22-2017 01:47 PM
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Originally Posted by matese (Post 4732061)
HyLyt also has a "bath spray" for in between baths.
Thank you. I will look into this.

coco2013 06-22-2017 01:54 PM
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Originally Posted by matese (Post 4732061)
HyLyt also has a "bath spray" for in between baths.
where do you buy the bath spray from?

BayleighL 06-22-2017 06:43 PM
Shampoo
 
We use Earth Bath non-scented hypoallergenic shampoo and conditioner. She tolerates it very well, it doesn't overstrip so that the body wants to over produce oil, and her bath lasts about a week. By 10 days she feels icky! A lot of sources say to only bath every three weeks, but if we do that she's itchy and irritable.


The key we found was in the rinsing and water temperature. Measure water temperature on the inside of your wrist and it should not feel warm. It's cooler than people like, but it's good for dry, itchy skin on yorkies. And rinse way more than you think is needed. Don't blow dry as that is very drying to the skin.


Also, if you need a finishing spray, spritz it onto your hands and gently apply to the hair, not the skin.


We had a mini-dachshund that would smell bad if her anal glands were plugged. Her ears could also smell bad if we didn't stay on it. We've been lucky not to have a dog with bad breath - yet. lol


Hope you solve the problem!

Lovetodream88 06-22-2017 07:18 PM
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Originally Posted by matese (Post 4732060)
I also use HyLyt shampoo and conditioner, recommended by my vet, it's for allergies.
I used to use it for Callie a long time ago but my vet stopped carrying so I kinda let it go until you brought it up in another thread a while ago then I ordered some from amazon :D

Lovetodream88 06-22-2017 07:21 PM
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Originally Posted by BayleighL (Post 4732072)
We use Earth Bath non-scented hypoallergenic shampoo and conditioner. She tolerates it very well, it doesn't overstrip so that the body wants to over produce oil, and her bath lasts about a week. By 10 days she feels icky! A lot of sources say to only bath every three weeks, but if we do that she's itchy and irritable.


The key we found was in the rinsing and water temperature. Measure water temperature on the inside of your wrist and it should not feel warm. It's cooler than people like, but it's good for dry, itchy skin on yorkies. And rinse way more than you think is needed. Don't blow dry as that is very drying to the skin.


Also, if you need a finishing spray, spritz it onto your hands and gently apply to the hair, not the skin.


We had a mini-dachshund that would smell bad if her anal glands were plugged. Her ears could also smell bad if we didn't stay on it. We've been lucky not to have a dog with bad breath - yet. lol


Hope you solve the problem!
It's fine to bathe them weekly as long as your using a good shampoo. My vet actually wants me to bathe Callie weekly. When we had beagles growing up they got a bath only twice a year lol.

Wylie's Mom 06-23-2017 01:23 AM
Have you fully inspected her skin, everywhere...? Anything unusual?

I guess if it truly smells this bad, I'd ask to do a skin scraping and then grow it out in culture for 14 days to look for fungus/yeast.

Has seborrhea been ruled out?

Are there any signs of hypothyroidism? Anytime there are unresolved skin/hair issues -- you MUST look deeper, bc these are just symptoms of something else.

And most importantly...is she not getting enough relief from the Atopica? If not, the dose can be increased and given 2x a day, rather than just once a day. You should also talk to your vet about the new shot for allergies, Cytopoint.

coco2013 06-23-2017 09:02 AM
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Originally Posted by Wylie's Mom (Post 4732082)
Have you fully inspected her skin, everywhere...? Anything unusual?

I guess if it truly smells this bad, I'd ask to do a skin scraping and then grow it out in culture for 14 days to look for fungus/yeast.

Has seborrhea been ruled out?

Are there any signs of hypothyroidism? Anytime there are unresolved skin/hair issues -- you MUST look deeper, bc these are just symptoms of something else.

And most importantly...is she not getting enough relief from the Atopica? If not, the dose can be increased and given 2x a day, rather than just once a day. You should also talk to your vet about the new shot for allergies, Cytopoint.
No mention ever of seborrhea. Only allergies to all grasses where we live. No allergies to foods. Her prescription is 5.4mg of apoquel. Half a tablet every 24 hrs. The vet did tell me at one time that when her scratching was in overdrive that I could give her a full tablet. She also has a dandruff due to the dry skin. Yesterday, I mad her an appointment with the vet so we can hopefully get this resolved. I will ask about the shot.

THank you so much for the extra info.

matese 06-23-2017 10:34 AM
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Originally Posted by coco2013 (Post 4732064)
where do you buy the bath spray from?
HyLyt also has a "bath spray" for in between baths.
I get the bath spray from my vet, I see Lovetodream88 gets hers from amazon.

mimimomo 06-25-2017 08:37 AM
Was a skin scraping done? It's a simple procedure & the vet looks under a microscope of the sample to determine if it's bacterial, fungal or yeast.

Usually, stinky dogs are yeasty dogs (& there's usu an underlying problem)...what kind of food are you feeding?
Yeast feeds off & thrive on high starchy/ carb foods diet. Must eliminate all grains, sweet/ potatoes, carrots, also treats containing the above & molasses, etc.

They also have special RX shampoos. Malaseb is great, you can get it from your vet or here: https://www.chewy.com/malaseb-medica...B&gclsrc=aw.ds

I have one very yeasty dog, it's triggered by her seasonal allergies & Malaseb worked great on her. I switched to raw food years ago & she has improved greatly...doesn't need allergy meds & no more itchy stinky yeast problems.

I haven't tried this but Amazon also sells special medicated shampoo (avoid shampoos w/ oatmeal):
https://www.amazon.com/SynergyLabs-V...QSQAMP8ZD8X27Q


Chronically Itchy or Smelly Dog? It Could Be Yeast Infections

Lacy's Mom 06-25-2017 08:33 PM
Dry skin causes oil production to increase causing a smell. Look into the product line vetericyn for skin problems. It could also be ear problems, dental problems, anal gland problems or diet. Yoy can try mixing one part vinegar to two parts water and mist coat but stay away from eyes. Also spray bedding. The vinegar smell will dissipate as it dries.


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