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08-08-2010, 05:44 PM | #1 |
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| At what age can males breed? Hi all. I have a male who is 6 and a half months old. He has been humping everything and was wondering at what age can they actually breed? I know that for females you should wait till they are at least in their second heat - but are there any limitations on males? |
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08-09-2010, 02:23 AM | #2 |
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| I'm not a breeder and can't advise on age, but in seeing your prior posts, is the boy you are inquiring about the same one you said came to you ill from a puppy mill? I would hope not if you are looking to breed him. There is a lot of good information in the breeding section, there is a lot of education and work that goes into breeding. Having the best representation of the breed and breeding to improve is essential!
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08-09-2010, 02:58 AM | #3 |
Poppy's Mamma ♥ Donating Member | I too think you should post this in the breeding section as you will get more answers. But if Reese1 is right in thinking your pup came from a puppy mill then you really shouldnt be breeding him. Good luck
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08-09-2010, 05:34 AM | #4 |
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| My Bailey is almost 14 months and humps his little fox.. :-/ he does it for maybe a minute, stops, and goes to sleep. Maybe our pups get overly excited? He's too young to breed though... And breeding a puppy mill pup (or any pup) is too dangerous. |
08-09-2010, 06:15 AM | #5 | |
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The rule of thumb for girls is 2nd Heat or 18 months of age. But, that is a guideline. Not only should all her health tests are performed, but her mental maturity should be taken into consideration. Of course both should be good representations of the breed.
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08-09-2010, 08:30 AM | #6 |
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| Thank you everyone for your input - I truly appreciate it. But just to get the record straight because out of anger and frustration - I wrote something I should not have. The male yorkie that I got was from Natalie's Wee Little Yorkies - not a puppy mill - a legitimate AKC registered breeder. However, I was angered with her because the puppy she sent me was neglected because it was unsocialized, malnourished, came with kennel cough and giardia. All these things have sinced been attended to and he has now gained weight and cleared of the kennel cough and giardia. This puppy is beautiful and a great example of the yorkie breed and I would like to breed him. I think that any healthy yorkie can get kennel cough and giardia if not properly looked after - these things are not hereditary by any means and I really see no reason why I should not breed him?!?!? |
08-09-2010, 08:53 AM | #7 |
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| Arent Natalies pups super tiny? Just because they are AKC doesnt mean they are a good representative of the breed
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08-09-2010, 09:00 AM | #8 |
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| Males make darling, wonderful pets, if they're neutered. And please know that just because a breeder registers dogs with AKC the puppies are not guaranteed to be of quality. The absolute worst dogs in the world can be AKC registered. I'd assess the breeder and from what you've said the person isn't very good. Actually the breeder sounds like one of the bad ones. Did this person help pay for the vet bills for your pup? And keep in mind that the reputable breeders sell on spay/neuter contracts. Why not neuter your pup to help insure he'll be a good pet? |
08-09-2010, 09:21 AM | #9 |
I ♥ Joey & Ralphie! Donating Member | When you bought your dog, were you planning on breeding him? Frankly, I don't understand why people think they should breed a dog just because he's registered. Being a registered purebred means nothing, especially since people are breeding anything to make money. It's not enough that he looks like a yorkie and he's cute, we already have too many pets available, he should be a nearly perfect specimen of the breed if you are going to breed him, not only on conformation, but health and personality. If breeding is in you blood, please go about it the right way, and find a mentor, someone who will teach you about yorkies and why it important to only breed the best of the best, and what health tests should be done prior to breeding. Remember, once you bred your dog, his personality will change from a pet to a working dog. I'm so disappointed that featured Yorkietalk breeders are not selling dogs on limited registration, as Raymond's Mom points out, " keep in mind that the reputable breeders sell on spay/neuter contracts."
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08-09-2010, 09:46 AM | #10 |
Mardelin Yorkshire Terriers Donating Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: California
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| Yes, she breeds for tiny and sells for astronomical prices. Will sell to anyone on open registration, if they pay her asking price. She's obtained her lines via the back door.
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08-09-2010, 11:57 AM | #11 | |
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I don't see why you now feel you shouldn't have posted that?? You just posted that two weeks ago! If I bought a puppy that was a "great example of the breed" and especially if he was bought with the intention of breeding and he had all the health issues when I got him, I would be mad as a hornet and I wouldn't feel bad about exposing it later! Kennel cough, giardia, emaciated, not socialized!
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08-09-2010, 12:03 PM | #12 |
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| It's so sad that breeders like the one that bred this little guy can't be shut down. They're not only ripping off so many unsuspecting people but think of the suffering they're causing their poor dogs. Heartbreaking. |
08-09-2010, 12:14 PM | #13 |
Donating YT 4000 Club Member | Have you shown him and had experienced breeders agree that he is an excellent example of the breed? Or is it based on your opinion because he's cute? Not being a wise-apple here, but it's an honest question. He can't truly be identified as being "sire worthy" at his young age- he needs to fully mature before that can be judged. Do you have a mentor? Do you know the health history of his entire line? How are his hips and knees? If someone sent me a malnourished, unsocialized dog with Girarrdia and kennel cough, the LAST thing I would want to do is breed him. If she's so lax on those things, who knows what other corners were cut in the breeding of his dam and sire. Are you willing to be responsible for the health of the pups he throws? There's more to being a stud owner than sitting back and collecting your "fee". Are you willing to have a dog who marks? One who's personality is changed because he wants to go after every female in heat? Did you know that just because he is tiny doesn't mean he will throw tiny pups? Are you eager to add to the over population of pets in the U.S.?
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08-09-2010, 01:27 PM | #14 | |
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08-10-2010, 05:05 PM | #15 |
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| They should be at least 25 lbs and no younger than 12 years old to breed.....
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