Neighbor problem with dog
 

It's very obvious that Chewie can't take stress very well. As a matter of fact, although I'm 85% sure the drooling and trembling episode was a sting or a bite ('specially since she's allergic to a few bugs) I'm not convinced it wasn't made worse because of that #$#$#$ neighbor with his #E$#$# dog. (sorry, I'm pretty angry after months of this!!)

He teases her. The second he sees my daughter (no filter) myself or my husband he takes off from being within friggin' two feet. To top it off this jerk does this MANY times a day. on Friday, around 20-30 minutes before this episode, he was there, and she wasn't like usual, either. She was trembling from head to foot! She usually gets upset, and i'm not saying that was the first time- just not usually such a violent reaction. I've SAID to leave our window, and my daughter will actually call him names. Yes, it's uncalled for, but he's not stopping. Chewie is getting upset, and now will freak out about any one passing, even well away from us. I just need some constructive ideas on what the heck to do, as this is our first home. I don't want more neighbor issues. I can't get him for trespassing. It's a town home. He's outside our yard lot.

Her Trainer assures me that her being so in-tune with me and so highly sensitive is a good service dog trait, it just makes me upset and more than a little angry FOR her. She doesn't deserve that, and this guy is a real piece of work.

Meh, I can be rather immature and I wouldn't be tolerant of that... but due to possible legal issues... I'd choose your moves a bit careful around him. I am not saying that you're at fault or anything- because clearly you're not. But it's obvious that he's doing it to instigate and I fail to believe a grown man would be that.... immature, moronic and just stoop to the level of a 6 year old.

I'd love to see him getting hit with a taste of his own medicine(but instead of taunting his dog, maybe taunting him some otherway?) but that's probably not a good idea.

So instead of being the full on aggressive. Maybe install some cameras around the perimeter that leave no blind spot so that should he harass your dog again, whatever he does will be caught on film. If you do go this route. Should do what we're going to do. Buy cameras that are "incognito" ... i.e. cameras that blend in, small ones with a wide field of view, the cameras should have sound as well (if possible) and if it could be a color camera even better. The more clearer the images the better evidence...

I am sure that violates some form of law.. a form of harassment. At the same time, get your child to not insult him(at least when the cameras are up) so that he can't go back to it should you chose to file a complaint.

Not sure how town houses work, but is it possible to raise the fence to the point he'd have to get up on them to see and bother the dog? That might be more effective. But then again you dont have to be seen to be bothering a dog.


If anything, you could confront him out in the streets, record the conversation (visually and vocally), keeping it as civil as possible and ask him to cease and desist.. Making sure the recording captures his face and yours, and everything is heard clearly.. so again there isn't any kind of "he said, she said" kind of argument(which become null/void).

It might not do much, buttttt! your cameras may of course catch him doing some illegal activities or something else... So if you can't tag him for one thing; you could at least tag him for another and get him to understand you are not messing around and aren't one to be messing with.

Of course, make sure if you do go with the camera route, do try to do it when he isn't there to see you install it. So that he's not "the wiser" about it and just finds some other method to bug you. This is to catch him in the act(he'll continue to do it until he gets in trouble for it).


If in case you dont want to install actual cameras, for whatever reasons.

There are companies that make fake security systems and I am sure they also make fake cameras so if he does see it in plain sight-- it may also just deter him.


Honestly, there should be something that he's doing wrong (legal-wise)...


About him bothering the window, I am not sure if you're allowed to but you could always plant a prickly bush or even stinging nettle(with gloves of course). I saw a post like this long time ago but it gives insight on plants


The 30 plants that can help protect your home against burglary - Telegraph


They should do the job. Some of these plants are really thorny and abrasive.

Depending on your location, if it's a dry warm area(that doesn't snow) maybe try keeping a cactus patch? Could try the big tall ones, and could also add the smaller ones that have those little spines that are a pain to get rid of. (I used to keep the little cactus with little spines and not even tape would get rid of them).

Of course, whatever you choose keep your friends and family warned on them and your dogs away from it.



IF you don't have the ground to plant but still have the space, maybe keep them in big pots with plenty of room for their roots. Install a camera facing near that area so should he attempt to move the pot just to bother the dog you could call the cops and claim he was trying to break in or something...


I mean I doubt it, and I said that I doubt a grown man would be that.. childish.. but then again I used to work in different areas where I got to see the worst in people and really shouldn't be surprised to learn of that.


The plants combined with the cameras is a passive-aggressive way to handling such a problem. Gives you more leverage depending on how you use it or chose to interpret it.

But, better look up local laws before you attempt anything to be honest.

I mean in Texas from what someone told me, if you own a property and someone is trespassing you can fire "warning shots" or something; while over here such a thing would get you in jail as fast as drunk driving, or a person selling dope. (obviously the gun idea is a bad idea- just an example of different laws, do note as I learned this the hard way when fishing, there are even more "local" local laws-- i.e. town specific laws and ordinances)


I really hope he leaves you and your family alone. Chewie looks like such a sweet dog, I don't know why anyone would want to bother him.... :(


P.s. could always plant around the window called "Jack-in-the-pulpit" they look like cabbage(sort of) and they stay sort of small, but if you bother the plant, the plant releases a foul stench and if you handle the plant without gloves that stench stays on you for days(I know this because I used to go exploring in the woods, rivers, creeks around here and found out the hard way when I took a part of one to show a biology teacher of mine when I was in HS).

The plant doesn't smell bad if it's unbothered(usually).. and the smell is like that of a skunk.

Are you saying he is trespassing on your property with his dog in order to harass you, your daughter and your dog?

That's the problem. If he was trespassing, I'd call the cops in a heartbeat. We have a little yard on our town home- our little porch and storage area. The rest are common areas, even though I don't understand HOW right under our window is common, it clearly is. I read the HOA list thoroughly. No, what this jerk does is stand about 2 feet away from our window and screw with her. He especially loves that she growls and freaks out about his huge boxer- although that's the biggest boxer i've ever seen. It's probably a mix. If I didn't know any better, I'd think he's trained it to pee under our window on PURPOSE. However, I doubt he did, it just likes to. I'm not as angry with the dog- it doesn't know any better.

To Flying nimbus- Yeah, you'd think he wouldn't. You'd also think that a grown man would have a job. he does this SEVERAL times a day. He's always walking his dang dog, and the dang thing poops these tar black stools and he just leaves them there. I haven't ever seen any one act like this before, and I'm getting riled up just thinking about it. I'm definitely not in the habit of lying about things; I'm pretty honest to a fault. I also waited months to say anything. Husband even thought we might have been "wrong" but then saw it with his own eyes. He'll yell get away, too, but like I said, he doesn't care one whit. we do have a camera-just bought one. We thought it would be best to get one just in case we are gone for any length of time. I'll set it up, though because I should have thought about that from the get- go. He won't go around when she's not gone, as this seems to be his only amusement. I agree with you, she loves animals and people, and it makes me simultaneously enraged and heartbroken for her, because I don't see her wanting to see "friends" (especially men that look like this guy) as much. She's not mean; she's just not ooooh!! FRIEND!

What about turning sprinklers on?

I mean, it's a yorkie, and a dog at that. lol Dogs in general are very bark-ey when they see people walking by and stuff. Especially small dogs.


The whole thing about him leaving dog poop without picking it up, where I live it's illegal to do that. You can get fined for the first few offenses, and I forget what the penalty is for repeat offenders.

Leave cameras that are connected to a computer or something to record it, so that should the camera "fall accidentally" even if the tape was removed or the camera broke, you'd still be able to see the last thing the camera saw.

I say this because a friend of mine who has to keep cameras on her house, one time(long long time ago) someone decided to throw something at the camera and remove the little tape in it.

She however, lives in a somewhat dicey neighborhood. What they were actually after was her dog because she left it in her fenced in/secured yard and she was in the house, ran outside and yelled at them. Next time she got it recorded, called the cops and filed charges against them.

She had this rare breed at the time, a charles king cavallier or whatever...

Now the cameras are connected to record onto a cd indoors. I forgot how she did it... She's sort of a techie.

But there are ways to get around it, if the dog likes to pee under your window I'd wash the area heavily, bleach it if possible to get rid of the "scent" and now add another scent or a "Dog" deterrent of some sort.

Always wondered if dog whistles even work, but maybe if you got your dog far away from you and caught his dog peeing under your window you could blow the whistle really hard each time he does it...? I know it sounds bad but it's a way to deter. There's also these sound devices that you plug into a wall and they make a high pitch sound only animals can hear. I wonder if you had that outside, if it would bother your dog inside?


Mmm, maybe as a one time thing if you feel in a really foul mood... could slather poison ivy over the wall where he's touching so if it gets on him it's a bit of payback-- but this is probably a really bad idea since you don't know how allergic he is to the stuff. But a nice thought.

The main thing I can say is just keep cameras around and since you can't mess with him directly for messing with your dog-- maybe you can catch him in the act of doing some crimes? Including him leaving his dogs' feces on the ground.

Tbh, this is why I don't want to live in so close of a proximity of a stranger.... I always wanted to live in an apartment because they're compact and convenient but at the same time you don't get to pick your neighbors like my other friend who has to hear her neighbors fights(Even when I come around during the day time I hear it).


Honestly I just think there is something wrong with him psychologically if he's going at it that much-- all day long...

Even if it's a townhouse the back and the front is your property and he is still trespassing. I live in a detached house and have a neighbor that has tampered with my standby generator the night of the blizzard hit us, took off a panel thinking if there was a power outage I would be with out power, well that didn't work, my generator still works but, I am finding it hard to replace that panel that protects the generator motor. In the Dec, he disconnected my electric start snow blower thinking the battery would be dead the next day as they were calling for 8 inches of snow, however I went to start the blower night before to make sure it was working,when it didn't start the first thing I checked was to make sure it was plug in, it wasn't.

I just had the police come this Sunday to file a harassment charge against him . Since I did not actually see him no charges could be made. I told the officer I was getting surveillance cameras. The officer told me that was a wise thing to do, if I can catch him on my property he would be arrested for trespassing. The officer also spoke to this jerk and told him if he is caught trespassing he would be arrested. If I were you I would call the police for the harassment, the officer will talk to him, your jerk will know you are serious and perhaps this will stop him.

I am now researching surveillance cameras.

Lowes carries dummy cameras, they look like a camera, but are non working ones, the salesmen at lowes said to mount it in plain view with a hidden working camera just in case the jerk tries sabotage the dummy camera, he would be caught on film.

Since you have actually seen this guy harassing your dog and daughter that alone is proof.

Do you have a poop pick up law? if his dog is pooping on your property and you have witnessed this and jerk is not picking up, you can report him for that.

I would call the police on the harassment, coming close to your window. Even if the officer just talks to the jerk at least the jerk knows there is action that can be taken and you are starting the ball rolling.

Wow didn't know people would do that... Did you piss him off or something? or is it some punk butt kid?

The idea about the fake cameras is a good one, calling a police officer is also a good one because it gives the officer notice of the incident which they will write down notes for.


Better idea is rather than just playing the he said, she said game.

I'd wait to have everything recorded. The more stuff she can get him for; the less leniency and the heftier the fines and whatever other punishment he gets. He might even also be forced to do in some community service like cleaning up garbage around town.

If she goes for the bogey cameras, she should get several, and the real cameras should probably be smaller so that they're not as easy to spot.

She should probably wait till she gets things on film mainly because when a cop shows up and she lacks physical incriminating evidence the guy could just say otherwise-- which may just make things take longer.

Maybe even show him having his dog defecate on her side of the property and leaving it there....


Because while it is a town house, it still is sort of her property. Same with apartments. I.e. if I go into someone else' apartment uninvited it would still be trespassing.

If she could also manage to meet her outside of his side of the property and have a conversation with him, have her ask him to stop harassing the dogs, to stop having his dog defecate on their side of the property and leaving it there, to stop trespassing and harassing them and have all of this recorded (video recording with sound) then there's the evidence of you asking him to stop.

Cause he could always feign ignorance. Of course this is only if it's legally allowed where she lives.

Where I live, you can legally record(visually and vocally) someone in public property or outdoors or even indoors-- if and only if one of the party being recorded is aware of it and agrees to it. It depends where though.

Still dont get why people would be such idiots and do this...

You can get him for harassment actually. A warning from your neighborhood police officer and the HOA should at least give him a wake up call. It'll piss him off but if he doesn't want further trouble he'll stop.

Matese and Rachael- Yes, sigh, a call to the HOA is in order. Darnit!!!! I did report him- didn't know him- anonymously for that issue when we first moved in; didn't do much good for too long. The poop, I mean. I was told that I wasn't the only person, so the idiot isn't doing it because of that, or it would have happened within a few weeks.

E popped the blinds up this morning. He stumbled. I laughed, and might have called him something that Rhymes with Rooshrag. Chews knows when he's there now even if the blinds aren't up. This whole thing is ridiculous, and it makes me angrier knowing my innocent dog is his entertainment. I need to call and also make a report before this becomes worse.

Matese, oh, Lord. THAT is awful. I can't even imagine having to go through that! What a piece of poop! I mean, that is nasty on a whole other level.

Taylor- you'd really think that our front was our entire yard, but seriously- not where he's going. It's considered the "side" and complex property, even though it's our front. So, he couldn't do this at our bedroom, as it 's over the porch. however, underneath our picture window in the living room isn't ours. there is a bush on the side of it, and I can't even remove it, without being fined.

This definitely sounds like harassment; but it also sounds like he's not "fully there" so I would probably be extra cautious. I would contact the police to at least make a report and I would email the HOA manager to have them send a letter to the owner. At the very least I'd want to start a paper trail so a restraining order could be requested if he doesn't stop. How scary for you guys and your poor baby!!!

Even if the property is not yours, he is harassing you, I would definitely call the police and report the harassing and get the insistent # from the officer when he comes, he will speak to this man.

In my situation the creep nx door neighbor in 2010 actually got into my house several times, he stole nothing, I reported the break ins but at that time I didn't know who it was. I was asked if I checked my medicine cabinet because thieves steal pain meds, well I don't have pain killers so nothing was taken. I secured all my back windows so they cannot be opened from the outside, so he started prying the dead bolt lock at my back door, so I had another deadbolt installed, now I have two deadbolts. He continued working on the locks, so I had steal plates installed over the locks and that took care of him prying.

One of my neighbors told me he thinks he knows who is targeting my house, and tells me the nx door neighbor. I was FRIENDS with these ppl, not that they ever came into my house, but friends that talked to each other, our dogs would play in my yard together. They also knew what time I left for work and what time I got home. The husband use to go out of his way to be extra friendly with my dog which I found very odd.

2013 I have a tooth ache, dentist gives me antibi. and Tylenol COD 3 (pain killer) The month is May I have the two meds sitting by my kitchen sink, kitchen window is over the sink and window is open.I am 100 feet away from my front door weeding my flower bed at the end of the driveway. The neighbor is mowing his lawn. They have a paved patio on the side of their house, to get to their yard you have to cross over the patio, he always shuts off the lawn mower to cross the paved area, this day he did not, mower was running all the time. 15 minutes later my tooth starts to throb, I go in my house to take the pain killer, the vile is EMPTY. He had popped the screen, emptied the pills into his pocket and left the empty vile. Well I didn't actually see him so I can't accuse him, I didn't call the police because all they would do is tell him not to trespass, he would be laughing knowing he got away with it so I let it alone and got indoor surveillance cameras that I could monitor on my cell phone. He never came to my back door or my back rooms so I never caught him on film. But I knew a door would one day open and I would have the opportunity to have a face off with him.

2013 Fall, he is blowing leaves between our houses, as usual I have just blew ALLLL the leaves from the side on my house and my yard, all HIS leaves are blowing against my house and coming into my yard, the door opened and I jumped in with both feet, told him off about the leaves and went into....and keep the %$#% away from my house because the next time you come near it you will find something you will not be happy about. (meaning the camera will film him). He says he doesn't know what I'm talking about, I never told him I knew he stole my pain meds. I wanted to catch him on tape, but he has never tried to break in again.

Now he is doing petty BS things, I don't see him but I KNOW it's him. I have no enemies only him. I don't call the police for the petty stuff, but when he sabotaged my generator the night of the blizzard that was the straw that broke this camels back. I discovered the missing generator panel the first week in April when all the snow and ice had melted. I have been trying to get it replaced. It's been a few weeks and I know the creep neighbor thinks I don't suspect him. When I had the police come this past Sunday the officer went over and spoke to him. So now he knows I know it was him. Nothing I can do unless I either see him or capture him on tape. Filming him trespassing is 100% sure thing and he would be arrested, the officer told me this, seeing him would be a she said he said.

So the quest for surveillance camera has began. It will be several years before he tries anything again, just like no problems from 2013 until 2017, but I will always have outdoor cameras and I will catch him one day.

Wow sounds like a pain in the tuckus to deal with... Seeing as he's kind of being a weenie maybe put a security cameras hidden outside, with realistic looking (but fake) ones in plain view so that way he might think there's only one of them or two and if he ever tried anything, he'd go away from the field of vision (or what he'd think is the field of vision) and actually show up in your actual cameras anyways.


We're putting cameras in the new house in light of last years incident, and I mean no ones done anything over there... but you cant never be too careful... and then if something does happen it's not a game of he said/she said-- it's legitimate hard core evidence.

You should also try installing a home security system that notifies the authorities so if you're not home it's still in sight.

I feel as if you can get a better sense of ease and relief if you could install various cameras that not only get recorded, but also feed onto your smart phone.. Which I believe should be possible with a little searching and tinkering. Then you can see what happens even if you're away and all the evidence would be there.

It's really upsetting to know that you can move into a neighborhood that looks nice, beautiful and peaceful on the outside-- no bad reviews or anything and then somewhile later it turns out there's a crazy person for a neighbor.... like our POS neighbors... but then again you can get really good neighbors like the ones on the other side.


It still bugs me, because I didn't realize this sooner... but I used to have a box turtle(captive bred three toed box turtle) in an enclosure in my backyard. The enclosure was really big, it had a lock in it and it had a "ceiling" that was made of stainless steel wires/bars to keep animals(and people) out of it... A few months later after I brought in my juvenile box turtle... it had "somehow" magically disappeared.

There was no way it could dig out because yes it had dirt in it, and yes turtles and tortoises like a lot of animals can dig.


But it had something to prevent escape through digging. The thing went down a few feet to allow it to dig if it wanted to-- but at the base of it there was a few layers of stainless steel chicken wires and none of those were missing or out of place.

So no predatory animal could go inside the cage because of the wires and bar gated ceiling, and it was locked... but somehow someone must have picked the lock because the lock was found unlocked but still in place and yeah.. it's not the first case of animal theft in the neighborhood...

It's why I don't let our dog run outside without one of us being there and why we remind each other to do the same.


It bugs me because she was doing really well and ugh... I always wonder where she ended up in and I miss her.. and we can't just have anything nice. (or couldn't).


Now I refuse to try, and even with all of the security we're going to add to the new house I wouldn't let anything out of our sight. Watched like a hawk.

But then again I shouldn't be too surprised, a few years(before sasha so more like 6-7) before that while still in this house our BBQ grill was stolen right after we got it... now after that we have to always bring it in and it's a pain to carry...


At the time we weren't paying much and weren't home often enough during the day.

You still have a right to your personal privacy, not to be frequently harassed and your dog terrorized by anyone no matter where you live. I'd call my HOA and police and ask about how to obtain my personal rights from harassment and what steps need to be taken to stop this wingnut's continual worrying behavior. I know you don't want to cause neighborhood problems but you need to reign this guy in B4 it possibly escalates to something worse as he enjoys watching his power over you grow.

Get evidence on video of his frequent, objectionable actions with and without his dog as well as your dog shaking and reacting in fear, the more episodes on video, the better. Be sure the date and time show on screen in each video you take.

One thing that usually dissuades most dogs from charging or even wanting to approach you is to carry a big, auto-opening, black, unopened umbrella at your side and whenever a dog begins approaching you and your dog, just hit the 'open' button. The bigger the umbrella, the better. A black or dark one usually works better as the dog can see it well in contrast to your background. It's quite intimidating to most dogs.

The unexpected, sudden, mysterious unfolding of that big, black umbrella usually sends even the most aggressive or rambunctious dog the other way. There is something about your outline abruptly enlarging in the dog's eyes as the big black thing magically blooms open before you that takes the attitude right out of them.

The umbrella thing should work on a lot of animals... it's the same thing those umbrella lizards do. Probably wont work on larger animals than that but yeah.

WHOA. I mean- what?! Husband thinks our neighbor is (and no disrespect to any one, I always am careful to do a disclaimer with this term) a stoner with nothing better to do, as he's always wandering. He MIGHT not be playing with a full deck- but I don't think that's it. When he's not wandering, he's going to the parties on Saturday nights at what I call the "bros" house. nice College boys directly across from us. They are super sweet boys, so I don't get upset about the Saturdays. It's always winding down by midnight.

Now that I've sufficiently woken up, I can say, even though I'm in SHOCK about what is happening with your neighbor, that husband has researched security cameras for years. It initially was for our vehicle that was parked on the side people from the city's convention center walked by. I can ask him, if you want. I know the one we bought is just for our peace of mind when we go out of town, but I know he has a particular one in mind. He's a tech and he lives, breathes, and eats tech. His whole thing was one that could be hidden.

I'm glad this guy isn't violent. Until now, the worst neighbor I've ever heard of can't even touch this guy. What a true piece of filth. I have nothing else to say but to sympathize. I'm also sorry you have to always be on constant guard.

I spoke to my husband about putting a call into HOA and he's actually wanting to do something you're trying to do. Catch it on camera so we won't sound like we just want to complain. I have a note to call into the city police to see what my options are. I think husband will be talking to him sometime soon, too. He's agreed that it's just gone on long enough.

THAT is a fantastic idea! I haven't been walking her on our complex property, not with that dog roaming about. We take her to the park. I just didn't want her to be trembling and have a miserable time.

It's worked on several small, medium and large dogs over the years with me, all except two small neighbor dogs that excitedly tried to get around it to Tibbe on a rainy day. I'd already had it open over our heads when the little dogs rushed off their porch, across the street and tried to get to Tibbe. I quickly put it down in front of us and it held them off but they didn't get to see it unfurl in a starling whoosh and were little-dog thrilled to see another dog out walking and stayed in place until their owner got there. But it kept them from getting to Tibbe as I just lowered its edge to the sidewalk level and rolled it in whatever direction they tried.

I began using an auto-open umbrella during walks after a large, aggressive Dalmatian rushed from nowhere and grabbed my Yorkie, Jilly, up in its jaws. And it stalked us all the way down the block afterward as we headed home to the car and emergency vet, even though I repeatedly threatened it with a raised walking stick I'd taken with me for the first time that day and had used it to beat the dog off her to allow us to get away from it.

After that vicious attack, I realized I needed something to intimidate approaching dogs and my trusty auto-open umbrella has done the trick. Walking sticks are just that - thin sticks and not really too worrying to dogs unless they are close enough for you to threaten to hit them with it. Even then, a dog who has never been hit usually won't react to just a raised stick unless your very aggressive body attitude and eye stare can serve to warn him off. But a big, mysteriously enlarging umbrella a dog can't see through and assumes is a huge, solid object usually intimidates dogs that have an interest in approaching you.

Of course it can't prevent the highly dominant, aggressive dog interested only in attacking or the sudden, unseen dog coming from out of the bushes or from behind but those you can see coming are usually suddenly unsure about the rapidly whooshing open umbrella before you. And they can usually shield the dog from actually getting to whomever is behind them while you yell for help or get to safety during an actual attack attempt. Over time, dogs quickly learn you will always have it and whoosh it open if they approach you and oncoming dogs just tend to give you a wide berth or go the other way.

To be honest this might be an alternative on that dog we're afraid of. I don't think the dog is to blame but his owner probably trained the dog to be vicious (a guard dog), because the dog used to be allowed to roam in the backyard(theirs) without any actual supervision over the dog.

The dog would be out during the day(sometimes even if it rains) and would bark all the time over anything...


According to my mom, the dog came up to her and was friendly one moment and then in an instant snapped. I wonder if it was the first time that's happened. (That he got into our yard).

When we called the cops (the cop did a half-butt attempt) the guy(or woman) claimed to not own any dog-- yet the dogs been seen in his/her yard almost daily at the time, and now we still see it there.

Of course we managed to record it this time.

But I wonder if the umbrella trick would work on him/her. I used to feel bad for pitbulls(as they're all not bad) but at the same time I just don't think we should continue to breed something that has the potential to be used as a "tool" for guarding, or better explained as a tool for attacking....

I don't particularly have anything against the owners(who own such breeds) but if the dog who was trained to be a guard dog managed to escape it could wreak havoc and cause major damage...

I don't think we should put them down either; I just think we should reduce them and make a law or something that would be aimed specifically at breeds that have the tendency to be used for that to be more highly monitored and regulated.. kind of like how they do with guns over here.

Over here if you own a gun the cops would probably know(maybe this is an error but it seems like there is a higher chance for them to know).


I think they should be made to keep record of who sold what to who and there should be special license just to buy a dog like that with someone coming to check the dog/home 2x a year(unannounced) to make sure no foul play is taking course.

I say this because while yes not everyone who owns a dog like that is a bad person or wants them for dubious reasons; it only takes one person to screw it up(accidentally or otherwise) for a potentially dangerous situation to occur.


As a child, a similar thing occurred. I lived at the time in a not so well off neighborhood and there were people who had these dogs lose in their front yards(fenced) or they were tied to a stake on the ground which had they gotten loose -- I or some other kid(at the time I was really small) could have gotten seriously hurt.

They're not generally bad dogs, just there are people out there who own them and use them for really bad reasons... some even purposely breed them.

But I am not 100% sure an umbrella would do much. I kind of wonder.

are these rental townhomes or do you each own your place. how old is the man and what type of dog and how much does it weigh. sorry for my questions but i don't think you said that on this thread

Dog handlers all know of the old auto-open brolly's success when needed and it's often recommended for unwanted dog approach on walks. Though it's never failed me on pitbulls, Shepherds and all other dogs that I might not want to approach my dog for almost 20 years, I wouldn't recommend it for you, as you doubt its effectiveness. For any tool, be it a clipboard, briefcase, raincoat, bear spray, cane or umbrella to work to help fend off any dog's unwanted attentions or aggression, the user must be fully committed to and have good faith in any tool's ability to work for them and feel in control with it. An aggressive dog would sense your uncertainty in a second.

https://www.google.com/search?q=pitb...-open+umbrella

Mmmm... I mean with a person I'd respond aggression(to the point I feel actually threatened for my health) with defensive aggression.... and I am glad to say nothing has ever gotten to that point as I have a habit of general avoidance of certain situations. With things like these it feels a bit more unpredictable. I mean if it got really bad I could defend myself with the umbrella but then again I also don't want to hurt anyone(animal or human) even if it's in self-defense.

I generally do not like or condone violence; but if I was in a situation I had an umbrella I'd use it in the same manner that was explained. Just kind of questioning it's efficiency with persistent animals. I kind of think it might work the way a vacuum cleaner works on dogs.

Our dog used to be scared of the vacuum cleaner and would try to chase it or bark constantly at it. On one side it's a tad funny because it's the same as being afraid of a mop- but on the other side I get it because they don't know what it is, what it does.

They just hear the loud noise and see the movement and get scared. Our dog is oblivious to it now though. I don't know how it happened but she just doesn't care about it anymore.

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To further clarify, I mean I only find it a tad funny because to us it's something harmless, insignificant like a fly or something. But then I know it's bad so I got mixed feelings because I know it causes stress so in the end it also makes me sad.

Just cannot fathom anyone not trying to defend a crying, defenseless animal or themselves during a violent attack, especially when the victim could easily die if one doesn't fight back. Why should the malicious attacker live and not my dog or me? So I fought. Seeing my tiny 3 lb. Yorkie being suddenly and ferociously attacked by a 65 lb. dog 8 so many times her size, I fought to defend and then tried to kill during the sustained, vicious attack. I'm a doglover and worked my whole life to find, save, love, treat, heal, nurture, rehab and help troubled dogs but I fought to kill that dog until it let go of Jilly.

I don't doubt for a second that I saved little Jilly's life thanks to my tool and determination and after her surgery and rehab, I began to look for a deterrent so we could walk with a sense of security, which a whooshing-open umbrella has been for me and others who've confidently tried it. Approaching dogs fixating on Jilly during our subsequent walks quickly lost interest when the big umbrella opened suddenly before us!

Nothing is 100% when a vicious dog is bent on attack but a whooshing-open umbrella as a deterrent for OP's scary neighbor's rambunctious, unruly dog and other readers' unwanted dog approaches might generally help them avoid bad situations, as it has me when I've needed it.

I mean if it comes down to that point then I would probably have to as well... but not without either punching, slapping or finding some way to screw the person over who decided to train a dog to be like that and let them run lose.

I have a very young niece, and I can just imagine what would happen if a dog got into our yard if she happened to be playing in it. Like had my niece been in the yard instead of the dog... I can see how it would all end, and I frankly would not sit idly by and let some POS get away with something like that.

There are innocent people in this neighborhood, children even who probably have no clue about this person or their dog. I know there's something wrong with them because my friends' brother went to check out their meter (Idk he works for the electric company- he mentioned he had to check this little meter that's on the front of the house) and the guy/woman just called the cops on him several times. Even after he's been there enough times to be recognized, and he's always wearing uniform while doing it. Not sure if he has a special car as well. But he also said his coworkers went to drop in mail once and the guy and the lady freaked out.

When the cops came they claimed they got some PTSD. None of them have been in the military, and while there are other things that could happen-- still we pretty much all doubt it as he mentioned other stuff as well. But regardless of what he /she have it gives no excuse to take a dog leave it out all day long in the cold, in the rain, if its too hot, etc. Just because you want protection.

Like we live in the suburbs, this neighborhood has no crime other than the kids who stole my box turtle and were stealing animals back then... I know a lot of the neighbors throughout the whole neighborhood and nothing ever happens here.... The worse that happens were those kids(well now tech. they're adults), and a few people who called for an EMT(apparently heart attacks and other kinds of things).

There's a lot of kids here though, some are old enough to be unattended but not old enough to fight off a dog that size.

I am saddened to hear(well know) that you and your Jilly went through all of this though.

I am sure we can find things that scare the average dog that would help as a deterrent...

Would be nice if they made stun guns that worked on medium to big dogs. That don't hurt the dog but would allow you to get away quickly.

Still mace is the only thing I can think of but being me I fear of accidentally spraying myself in panic. So now I am blind and an easy target.

LMBOoooooo!

Omg, that was the *best* answer ever, and it just went unnoticed!

Taylor, that was just awesome.

Turning on the sprinklers is just an outstanding idea. Make sure you have a proper spray sprinkler (not drip) and aim it correctly, then BAM. Love it.

I think that would be a great idea for the occasional enthusiastic jokester but worry it might set off this study in maniacal gotcha. Since this nutjob has come into her home and stolen DRUGS, among his other scary behavior, I wonder if he'd stop at monkey-wrenching her sprinkler system in the night in retaliation for something that he could perceive as attempts to humiliate him in public. Simply opening an umbrella as a dog approaches has never ticked off anyone.

Glad some one saw it lol :D

How did I miss it? I saw- Oh I saw her FIRST answer. I'm implementing this idea asap, lol. I CAN put a plant in that area- there are a list of approved things, so it'll be perfect. This made my day, hehe. It's not my fault he might happen to walk by when I turn it on. I might not see him. :D

Did I miss it or have you taken your documentation of your neighbor's harassment to your HOA for mediation, a sit-down between you two and their third party mediator, with your videos and complaints fully voiced?

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We have generally had good luck with neighbors, but I noted your comment on the person possible being a stoner. We did have a neighbor about 30 years ago who had been home on disability and was on pain medications. After he was better, he still didn't want to go back to work as he was close to retirement. The problem was, in order to justify continued disability leave payments he had to still require medical care. He still filled the prescriptions and TOOK the pills. He had a real change in personality and became a real problem. He didn't have enough to do and his wife wanted him out of the house, so the neighbors became his target. With drug influence it's pretty tricky. We moved and one time when we went back to visit we found out his wife left him and he came out as we were visiting in our old neighborhood and apologized to my husband for his behavior.


We also had a neighbor whose job was to clean up their horse-size dog poop. He'd fling it over the fence into the back of our property. We filled a bucket a couple of times and returned it to his yard. But the solution was a letter explaining this was not acceptable. I was positive his wife did not know his technique and we could almost hear the conversation when she found out. We had a chuckle imagining the conversation and the poop stopped flying over the fence.


Poop was easier to deal with than drug induced behavior/personality changes. I would avoid any retaliation type behaviors because if and when you will likely seek assistance, you need to be above reproach. I would seek assistance from the HOA first and talk to a community officer at the Police Dept for advice and see what they can offer. If his dog is aggressive, you might also get some relief from your local animal control service.