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So very sad - and terrifying! I always felt my babies were safe in my arms, but I now am going to start carrying pepper spray on walks. :( https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zcRu_7LF7BA |
I honestly had to stop watching when the wife started speaking about the injuries. I understand people say pits can be very loving, I am sure it is true. Still, locally and nationwide, I see stories every week on pits killing or severely injuring dogs. |
Piper was grabbed out of my arms by neighbor's Akita--truly terrifying and truly miraculous that I somehow grabbed her back, unscathed. It happened in less than a second, I swear--quicker than a flash. Anymore, when anywhere near a big dog, I pick her up and turn the other direction. Piper is fine, but now very, very wary of all large canines--and rightly so! I hope that loving gentleman can heal with a new little love someday...By the way, members here have posted that wasp spray is a more effective deterrent to attacks than pepper spray, etc. |
Absolutely terrifying, I know ppl with Pit Bulls,I have been smothered in wet sloppy kisses from them, I LOVE pit Bulls. One must be very careful when they buy a Pit, know where the parents have come from, and TRAIN, SOCIALIZE their pits as puppies around ALL dogs and ppl. Many ppl get this breed because they want a bully dog. I am always sickened when I read something like this. This attack could have been avoided if the owners had trained their dogs properly. Now a family has been destroyed and their beloved baby died a horrible painful death, just tragic for the owners of that wee little baby. |
We have developed a bully society and I don't mean pitbull. I mean a violent, angry, "gotta get them before they get me" society. I read a report yesterday about an 80 yr old man in Jacksonville who was literally torn apart by four nasty dogs that had previously been investigated. Their owner said the 80 yr old was harassing the dogs. :( |
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Unfortunately pit bulls suffer from many incorrect breedings. You have the dog fighting contingent, your drug folks, your folks that want an aggressive dog. Having said all of that I too do not trust pits. With either size of my dogs I give the pits a wide berth. I don't like Cano Corsos nor Dogo Argentinos either. Last time I went to the leash free park 2 Dogos came in after we had been there some time. Thankfully I had my female Blackie with me, and not my male! But the owners were very watchfull and right on top of things. I gave them two trainers names and with the internet one actually looked them up right then. Gives me hope that they will get some pro training! And while I know a lot of you want to pick up your Yorkie when a big dog approaches that should be the last resort as it invites the other dog to jump up on you. My first choice is to create distance, then if that can't be done loose lead into my body, if the attack is coming from the front I step in front of my Yorkie and if from behind I step behind him. The umbrella trick can work well too. |
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joined in, husband and son came out, could not get them off her, they shot both dogs. Horror story for sure, it still goes back to the breeding parents and their history. We have a member or two that had pits, would be so nice if they offered up their experience. All in all, it is up to the buyer of a pit puppy to make sure they are buying from a breeder that has done their home work and checked generations back for temperament of all their breeding pairs. I am by NO means an expert on Pit Bulls, my passed 4 girls had wonderful temperaments, LOVED all animals, I would NEVER let them near a friends Pit Bull or any LARGE bred. They are ANIMALS and we never know what may trigger them off. Better to be safe then sorry. Always be a responsible dog owner, no matter what breed you own. |
I agree and will not pick Piper up if the dog is near and watching; however, I try to keep my eyes peeled and if dog hasn't noticed us, Piper is already in my arms by the time it does...You're so very knowledgeable and I always, always pay careful attention to your advice; I've learned what to watch for and techniques to use---just in day-to-day encounters. I cannot thank you enough for sharing your experience and common sense, gemy; you are truly invaluable! |
Let me add this, many, many years ago a friend of a friend had a German Shepard, his dog was gotten as a WATCH dog as the owner lived in a bad area. This dog was not an aggressive dog so the owner put GUN POWDER in the dogs food to make the dog MEAN and aggressive. I did not know this person if I did i would have reported him to animal control. We never know how ppl treat or what ppl do to their dogs. Better to always steer clear of large dogs NO MATTER what size dog one owns. |
And as you mentioned, we cannot know when or if or what may cause an animal, any animal, to suddenly pounce. It's just the nature of our world that we must remain ever-vigilent--not paranoid, but prepared. |
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There is a fine line to walk with seeming ease with your dog. Something my hubby refuses to learn! He tends to be more spatially aware, but I am better in one on one situations. Now just given my personality I have learnt to run through various situations in my mind and say okay if this happens the n I do this. I have had a fear biter, a very dominant male,an airhead, and a yorkie lol. |
I am always prepared, I live in a heavily wooded area, there are also many BIG breed dogs TIED outside behind wooden fences. There is a Rottweiler 3 houses from me, tied outside all day, I cringe when I have to pass that house, always watching to make sure that dog does not break loose and crash through his fence. Many dogs get loose for some reason or another, reason why I do not walk Cody on a daily basis, also he is not dog friendly. BUT, I do have to walk him only in the event should he get out of the house or yard he needs to know where he lives and hopefully will find his way back home. When we take our walks I have to watch the woods in case a dog darts out or a bear is not mosing about, I am always looking behind me to make sure a dog has not gotten loose and is following us (this has happened to me with my passed girl) I have to watch the sky for prey birds, I have to keep calm while doing all this checking, don't want Cody to feel any stress from me. I am always on guard and prepared. Isn't it a shame as small dog owners we have to fear ANY size dog. I was not raised to fear dogs, as a kid we had a beautiful Collie that was NEVER on a leash, my brother and I would take him to a pond near us and swim all afternoon with him, boy how times have changed. So sad. |
I, too, am always checking for avenues of 'escape' or for safe places; I also run random scenarios through my mind as we walk...What if that slow moving car suddenly stops and someone tries to grab Pipe...What if a fierce storm suddenly hits, where could we find immediate shelter...You know, those kinda mind expanding what if's....!! Kinda crazy, but kinda interesting because sometimes I find myself in an area that has me stumped as to options. People are probably hiding in their homes watching that crazy lady walking down the sidewalk, turning her head every which and peering at front porches, open garages all the while apparently conversing with her little dog...Oh my, I scare me, too! |
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When strangers inquired of my German Shepherd, "Does she bite?" I would often respond with, "Well, she hasn't so far..." buh-bye!! |
OMG!! I feel so sad for them what a tragic situation. |
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One day I heard that one of their pits jumped the fence and had another neighbor's dog on the ground and was at the dogs throat. They told me that their pit was just "playing" with the neighbors dog, but I didn't trust that dog. My husband heard the attack and said it was vicious. I spent a fortune and put up a 6 foot wood fence around my yard to keep them away from my yorkies. After I did that the "pit" Neighbors quit speaking to us. I didn't care, I feel it is my responsibility to keep my dogs safe. A while after that the same pit jumped the fence again and tore up their other dog, black lab. The dog was in very serious condition and barely survived. The owner of the pit had the nerve to tell me that the attack was the labs fault because he came from the "country" and didnt know how to PLAY with a city dog. I could not believe that she was really saying that. All 3 houses surrounding my house have 2 pit bulls in their yard. That's 6 of them. Every one of them attack the fenceline when my dogs are out. I never ever let my dogs out unattended and I know a pit can jump a 6 foot fence with little trouble. I believe that every dog no matter how well trained can be unpredictable, even mine. But I wish that the pit bull owners that live around me would realize that and quit making excuses and blaming everyone else for their dogs when their dogs attack another dog. I don't mean to offend anyone who has pit bulls but I just wanted to get my two cents in. One of the nastiest tempered dogs at the park was a chi so there you go. I am careful around all dogs no matter what size. Sorry for the long rant. |
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One of my biggest fears when walking my two little Yorkies is that they get attacked by some dog. I don't trust any dogs near mine. Jake was actually attacked by another little Yorkie when he was 10 months old and I had to pull them apart. Jake was always a friendly dog before that incident, nowadays he barks at every dog he comes across. If I happen to see a dog without a leash on my walks, I usually sweep up my Yorkies into my arms, and defend them as best I can. When I was around 10 years old my mother sent me off on a walk with my little dog which was attacked by a large dog. I was helpless and just watched and cried. Now in my 60s I still remember that day with great sadness. |
When my dogs are around other dogs, I always have them in my arms. We recently took them to a dog swim event at a local pool, and I ended up holding them almost the entire time. One time when my little one was on the ground, a pit bull came up from behind and gave her a big sniff. The dog was very sweet, but I shudder to think what could have happened in that one second. I looked at the other dogs having fun and romping, and it made me sad to think my fear is being felt by my dogs and is making them nervous. :cry: Anyone else have this problem and, if so, how do you not pass the fear on to your dogs? |
Several years ago on a camping trip. I was walking my 17 lb yorkie girl, I saw a HUGE Husky playing Frisbee with the owner and a couple other guys, cars blocked my vision but I kept my eye on that Husky, because of the cars I lost track of that dog, the next thing I hear is SCREAMING, it was MY DOG, this Husky came behind my back to sniff my dog startled my dog who was then on her back in a submissive position SCREAMING out of fear, I swept her up,turned my back to this Husky who still wanted to sniff my dog, my dog is still SCREAMING, and I am screaming someone get this dog. That camp ground you HAD to keep dogs on leash. My dog was traumatized. The owner comes to get his dog saying the dog is friendly, my dog is still SCREAMING, I tell the guy I don't give a F what your dog is, look at my dog, she is traumatized, my dog does not know yours is friendly all the time my girl is shaking and SCREAMING. I walked about 200 feet away to a picnic table all the time my dog is SCREAMING and shaking, 15 minutes later I finely got her calm, she was never the same after that. All the walks we had she always looked several times behind her. This insane screaming could have set that Husky into attack mode, thank god I swept her up as fast as I did. She was appox. 4 yo when this happened she left me at 17 yo, but she never forgot and always looked behind her on every walk we ever took. People don't realize, they may have the friendliest dog in the world, but strange little dogs don't know this and may have the same reaction my dog had, the fear my dog showed and her SCREAMING could send a friendly dog into attack mode. After that incident when ever I saw a BIG dog I would cross the street stand behind a car out of view and pick my girl up until that dog past us. I never wanted to see her traumatized like that again, however, we did have another incident 2 years later here where I live with a HUGE Belgium Shepard, same reaction, big reason why I HATE to walk Cody here. |
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i also pick up my dogs if we come across dogs that aren't on a leash. Thankfully the big dogs we come across in our neighborhood are usually always on a a leash. We have a house in our neighborhood with a Chihuahua and a Pomeranian that are always loose and running around without a leash. From what I've observed the Pomeranian is generally friendly while the chihuahua is not but it is tiny, around 3-4 lbs. I have seen fox in my neighborhood and an Akita that is just tied up outside with no fence so I'm not sure why my neighbor thinks it's a good idea to let his two small dogs roam around unattended. I would also be afraid they could get hit by a car. Or pick up a scent and take off. |
Thanks, Gemy and Matese, for the recommendations. On a walk, if there is a dog anywhere in sight, I scoop them up in my arms. I get nervous even THINKING about other dogs coming near them . . . and the more I hear about dogs attacking other dogs (just recently happened to two people I know), the worse I get. Also doesn't help that I volunteer at a humane society as a dog walker, and many of the dogs are dog-aggressive. Can anyone say paranoid???? :eek::eek: |
I have only scooped razzle up once and that was when a rottie came out to attack two off lead Yorkies, And my big boy magic went out to the end of his lead and roared at him. Razzle was going crazy in defence as well. I scooped him up because if a fight ensued razz man would not fair well. Thankfully the rottie turned and ran away, a BRT in full roar is an awesome sight. Never again have I walked my Yorkie and a brt together. I cant effectively both protect.Razzle and help out in a dog fight! I know so many toy breed owners think they are doing the right thing with holding them up in their arms, but that is a dangerous situation. You are off balance with only your legs to defend you both. I have posted in a few places some ideas. 1. Keep distance. You see a dog coming, short haul in still on a loose lead your dog, maybe even to one foot away from you. 2. If a dog any dog walks on a flexi lead avoid them like the plague. Especially med to large dogs. 3. Learn situational awareness, scan your surroundings. No pressure it becomes routine after a time. 4. Never hesitate if a dog is coming in agresiVely to use your feet to push that dog away! 5. Know what actions and or dog breeds or people trigger your dog, the you make sure you create the space while you work on your. Dogs behaviour. 6. And finally truly get to know your dog and their body language. And I will tell you here small dogs darting running and other beghaviouRs will incite prey drive in most dogs, and in particular breeds that have an in built prey drive" |
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