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Kandyam 07-14-2015 04:15 PM

matese In response to your last post like I said you know nothing. Do you really think I have time to sit on here and create accounts? for what I could post on here with the same username 5 different times about me spanking my gf yorkie you know why? because I can and nobody would know so I don't need to create different usernames and If 16'3 195 is small to you then go ahead and think that.

gemy 07-14-2015 04:32 PM

I am not going to speak to this OP = given three threads - spanking a wee dog etc etc.


But I will say being a leader of the pack does not always mean you have to dominte the dog in a harsh way. And it is not a given in a multiple person household if you are the one to feed train groom etc - that you will be given alpha status by the dogs.


My husband who has been out of work for awhile now is walking and feeding our dogs regularly. Yet this wkend at dock diving - our young gal kept ignoring hubby and trying to swim over to me. He said to her why are you doing this I am the one feeding and walking you.....


In our household of multiple dogs it is a bit more complex in that our senior male is the alpha male albeit a generous alpha and then our Yorkie and then our young gal - but they all look to me. I am the trainer. And until recently the main food provider - cook - and groomer.


I insist on obedience in certain things - No pull on lead - I have 120+ dogs and a 6lb Yorkie who is not allowed to pull. Stop command and Leave it are never to be disobeyed.


I am explaining with out really getting to what I think the nub of it is. I know and expect that I am alpha. I will be very consistent with what I want and *make* them do it. But I think it is my self assurance and the way I carry myself that speaks volumnes. Dogs look at body language all of the time!


For example my CDX trained senior boy who loves loves to dock dive - was pulling and I mean pulling hard on the lead to get to the water. It took all my strength I had to stand still and refuse to move. He of course could have overpulled me but was minimally obeying my no pull command. We went nowhere. I issued the front command which he did with alacrity - then the heel command - and when we went to walk again - he began pulling.. I froze in place. It took us 15 minutes to walk 100 paces but we were not going anywhere if he was pulling me. And if we had missed our time on the dock so be it - he would have been crated as a consequence of his dis obedience.


With Razzle same deal. They get excited and I understand that but you do not get rewarded for bad behaviour ever!


My dogs can be dogs and play and run and have a very full and rich life with me. But I do expect and demand obedience from them - they are too large not to be well trained. Sometimes we have to review things - like you Do Not push past me on the stairs - or try to block my way as I come to the top of the stairs. This is a real safety issue - with folks that are not steady on their feet like my sister - or ageing parents.


But for Razzle the 6lber he has never been spanked a day in his life. If I do a leash correction it is with one finger on the lead. Usually though it is voice correction - or I freeze and refuse to move - or change my direction constantly. When I lead I lead - when they are free and they do get free time they are free within reason to do what they like. I like to use re-direction to curb un wanted behaviours. Like lots of barking - they ignore hush or quiet - then it is come come come to me - if they come they are rewarded treat or toy.


None of my dogs cower from me. But they do obey - not always instantly but mostly yes.

Kandyam 07-14-2015 04:48 PM

Thank you for the advice and I appreciate. I posted on here some months ago about how I spanked him, we have progressed a lot but there are some things still that he does that confuses me and I think he is still afraid because of the past.

Russpilot 07-14-2015 05:00 PM

Gotta admit, if I was a mod here, I would ask you to just go away. I don't believe you are a fit dog owner and should probably be kept away from children too. But that being said, if you ever feel the need to get physical with your poor little puppy again, I welcome you to give me a call. I will take it's place with delight. It would be cathartic for me and might be a lesson you would remember for quite a while too. Now, do the people on this forum who love Yorkies a break and go hold your breath for an hour or so.

Alexa_And_Oscar 07-14-2015 05:00 PM

I agree completely with Matese. It's pretty obvious that you are the same person that has written the other threads. First of all, I would like to say that you are a disgusting man! And I pray that you never have any children. If that's how you treat a small dog, because he may misbehave a little. God help you having to deal with a screaming baby, or going through the terrible twos. I have stayed quiet before, but not anymore. I want to speak to your girlfriend and ask her, what the hell she is playing at, by letting you anywhere near her dog. And if she gave you permission to hit her dog and does it as well. Then there is definitely something WRONG with you both. I love my partner, but if I EVER saw him hit my Oscar, he would regret the day he was born. Not only would he be getting hit with a frying pan, but he would also be out of my life FOREVER. I don't always agree, with the way some people say things to each other on here. But when it comes to violence against our lovely babies, I wish we could do more. I'd definitely be reporting you both, if I knew where you stayed. I think you should be banned from asking these questions. If I could save that poor wee dog. Believe me I would. I hope that karma finds you very soon. Give up the dog. Neither of you should be allowed to have a dog. Why don't you try a fish? I'm sorry everyone. But this man has infuriated me!

Kandyam 07-14-2015 05:17 PM

Did you all read the post? did I ever say anything about hitting him? No, you guy are commenting about something that happened in the past? And sorry there is nothing you can do about it I love this dog and he loves me, yes he gets afraid sometimes because its a long road to get his trust back but im willing to do anything to achieve that but when he runs to me when he sees me and when I call him to come over to lay on me I know things are getting better and there is nothing you all can do sorry.

Kandyam 07-14-2015 05:18 PM

Ohh by the way I have 2 nephews and niece and they both love me as well, i think its funny how you all determine a thread and think you can dictate a persons life and tell them they are not a fit dog owner or shouldn't around children you people need god!

Kandyam 07-14-2015 05:20 PM

Alex and Oscar I'm confused on where you're getting this info from "I abused a small dog" when did I say I abused him recently? If I want to abuse him I could easily do that like right now I could, but I don't see the need to that sir.

matese 07-14-2015 05:20 PM

You can deny all you want, all 3 threads, word for word were written, you think ppl here on YT don't remember when someone comes on admitting one time they got "excessive" when hitting this dog, 6'3 195 lbs does not make a man, a real man would take the time to find out how to handle a dog that YOU feel needs discipline and NOT "spank the dog excessively" then ask how can you regain the dogs trust. ppl come to YT for advise, help and they get it and follow it. Why did you not come here BEFORE you "spanked" the dog to ask how to train, you come here after the fact, ask how to undo what YOU DID, you wanted this poor dog to fear you, so now you got what you wanted, what do you want, gain his trust then "spank" him again. I know your gf hits the dog, you put it in another thread using another user name, you wrote you "spanked" the dog because your gf does. Obviously she doesn't beat the dog, as you say he's not afraid of her. Yeah, I to also hope you never have kids.

Kandyam 07-14-2015 05:23 PM

I'm a full-time student two jobs I have no reason to create multiple accounts to talk about dogs, like I said I made a mistake that was in the past. So what, I hope you never have kids as well and if you do I hope they burn in hell!

Kandyam 07-14-2015 05:24 PM

And If did create multiple accounts what could you do? nothing, like I said I made a mistake that was months ago, and we have progressed and he does get fearful at times because of the past this dog is still a happy dog at the end of the day.

Russpilot 07-14-2015 05:27 PM

F off Douchebag. Clear enough for you?

Mods, please kick this troll.

Kandyam 07-14-2015 05:30 PM

hahaha

matese 07-14-2015 05:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kandyam (Post 4574935)
Ohh by the way I have 2 nephews and niece and they both love me as well, i think its funny how you all determine a thread and think you can dictate a persons life and tell them they are not a fit dog owner or shouldn't around children you people need god!

They are safe, their mother and father would take care of you if you laid a finger on them. You "spanked the dog excessively" in the past, "your words" now you come here asking what's in the dogs head, FEAR is in his head, WHY, because in "the past" you "spanked the dog excessively" I am answering your question. You wanted him to FEAR you, so he would listen to you, so you got what you wanted,now you want to undo all that you did, what for, gain his trust so you can "spank" a innocent defenseless little animal. I also read your other thread using this user name, "why does the dog whine for things to your gf, but does not whine to you for things" I even answered that thread, if I would have known you were the dog beater I would have replied, he don't whine to you because he FEARS you.

Kandyam 07-14-2015 05:58 PM

But you have to realize before I spanked him he would never whined to me. i don't want to fear me I don't think you understand I made a mistake in the past and I can see that you are judging me over it


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